fuzzyreactor
Banned
I'm pretty sure this is just how this particular player plays and non-ADS shooting is still very viable. I do wonder if crouching has any impact on accuracy though. I hope so.
Killzone: Shadow Fall "SNIPER" Multiplayer Gameplay
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I'm pretty sure this is just how this particular player plays and non-ADS shooting is still very viable. I do wonder if crouching has any impact on accuracy though. I hope so.
Actually, I think COD is one of the few games that nailed infantry combat. To be fair, I haven't played them since MW2.
It's all about the framerate, movement speed, the feeling of the weapons, the precise feeling controls. Battlefield nails none of those, well aside from the framerate. It's riddled with excess animations, bob and sway in everything you do, layers and layes of post-processing effects and weapons that are not satisfying in close-quarters combat.
SolidSnakex
Member
Because KZ's official release date is the 15th and we aren't allowed to make OT's until a week before a release of a game.
TimeEffect
Member
What do you mean? The insta-face knife? I wish GG implemented the Halo Reach/BF style of knifing, where you can only insta-kill from the back. It's really annoying to me that you can lunge and brutal melee from the front (KZ3). So very COD-like in that sense. KZ2 was great, if not difficult to get melee kills.
I get what you're saying: smaller scale games let you impact the game/flow a lot better...
but Battlefield isn't all those things you said.
You, especially as a squad, can change the flow of battle, and the gameplay is far from "superficial". What does that even mean?
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Will this game have a custom game browser, or just an invite-only system like Halo?
OTs aren't posted until a week before launch. We've got a little while to wait.
Killzone Shadow Fall |OT| OWL chirp you online
Not amazing looking but certainly doesn't seem bad.
I actually liked KZ2 MP, I played that for a couple of weeks, was pretty fun.
Graphics in this look ........ pretty good. It's interesting Jeff G @ GiantBomb has frequently mentioned the "frameyness" of the game on podcasts or other videos yet all the stuff released by the team is smooth looking, either he's pickier than I am or all the video leaked and official has been cherry picked.
I actually liked KZ2 MP, I played that for a couple of weeks, was pretty fun.
Graphics in this look ........ pretty good. It's interesting Jeff G @ GiantBomb has frequently mentioned the "frameyness" of the game on podcasts or other videos yet all the stuff released by the team is smooth looking, either he's pickier than I am or all the video leaked and official has been cherry picked.
TimeEffect
Member
What I mean is, ADS is very reliable, and I don't know if I like it. It seems you can pinpoint shoot full fire by ADS'ing. I don't know if I like that or not. I very much enjoyed how KZ2 did it, though I would have liked to see that version tweaked.
I have to assume crouching has some impact. I don't know if I've seen anyone rely on non-ADS firing for reliable kills though.
ButchCat said:
Worries me too. The maps we've seen are very tight and not intricate and multilayered like KZ2. These maps seem to be pretty flat so far. I'm wishing for maps like Visari's Hammer and the god-like Salamun Market.
Browser if I remember right
I remember hearing how the game focuses mainly on city like locations so except a lot of those type of maps. This forest map looks decent though in size.
I too miss the KZ2 large style maps.
Is this 24 players online?
ElzarTheBam
Member
A good squad of four can EASILY turn the tide of battle.
I've done it myself, and I've seen it done countless number of times.
Calling BF a bigger cod with vehicles is doing it injustice, it is much more then that, the easiest way to describe is that it's an amalgamation of effortless infantry and vehicular combat culminating in Battlefield moments that players seek and come back to again and again.
But I agree with you in regards to the fact good MP games with sense of indentity are few and far between.
EmptySpace
Banned
the awesome part of kz shadow fall though is the custom warzones. flashbacks of custom counter-strike matches. those were super fun. bf4 custom matches would've been nice. imagine pure sniper matches w/ headshot kills only, or pure pistol matches.
Project Alice
Banned
Wow. Hyperbole alert. Play it first before you claim perfect anything.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
Don't expect too much recoil. This game has NO auto aim at all. A first for a console shooter. To balance that I'd imagine there can't be as much recoil.
I think one of the reasons why i'm hoping to main this game as my #1 FPS is because of the lack of so-called "battlefield moments".
Sure i love Battlefield for its vehicular mayhem, but it also adds a lot of random garbage that I sometimes really don't need in my multiplayer FPS. I don't always want three choppers and jets dogfighting just above me while tanks burst through the walls at every corner and snipers lay out in the field miles away. I prefer tight maps that I know like the back of my hand, small teams, and reliable fast gameplay without constantly dying to something that's possibly miles away or a person who is in a massively advantageous position because it's driving a vehicle and blasting everything around me.
The last game that really clicked that way for me was COD4. I'm hoping Killzone:SF will give me that same vibe.
Sure i love Battlefield for its vehicular mayhem, but it also adds a lot of random garbage that I sometimes really don't need in my multiplayer FPS. I don't always want three choppers and jets dogfighting just above me while tanks burst through the walls at every corner and snipers lay out in the field miles away. I prefer tight maps that I know like the back of my hand, small teams, and reliable fast gameplay without constantly dying to something that's possibly miles away or a person who is in a massively advantageous position because it's driving a vehicle and blasting everything around me.
The last game that really clicked that way for me was COD4. I'm hoping Killzone:SF will give me that same vibe.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
No more firefights with an opponent where you have the upper hand but another player on the opponents jumps in, dragging your crosshairs on him, and leaving you dead with no kills.
TimeEffect
Member
Those will be great, but I hope the community is strong enough and the tools are good enough to make these happen. For example, sure, users can go invisible, but can we control how long? The cooldown? Can we manipulate scoring methods? That would be col for an expansion.
More than that, I hope the maps are good enough to support such kinds of amazing plays. The issue I have is that KZ2 maps seem like they would have been perfect for SF's possibilities. But the maps like the Mall seem very flat. I hope there are secret nooks and crannies, secret tunnels, etc. I want grande maps like that. In KZ2, you had catwalks, underground tunnels, back alleys...
I think that's what made games like Counterstrke and COD4 so great. So many times you had to use the map design/sound to win those S&D matches.
Hopefully SF maps are the same way.
How about BF TDM?
Acrylic7
Member
I guess I'm talking about Brutal melee's. I call them Insta-kills.
Killzone 2 handles it the correct way. Work for it. Even if the Brutal Melee only worked from behind the stupid animation would prevent you from making other actions such as killing a close by enemy. Hard to do things when you are locked in a useless kill animation for no reason other than your friends to say "huh, that's cool".
I'm no expert, but I have seen mention of people upscaling video in a program to a higher resolution, then putting it on youtube so it can be "1440p" or "original" (preferably if they're both there, because that means better quality), so it comes out looking better, or with less lost quality.
I have played a ton of BF TDM. The gunplay in BF3 just isn't up to the standards to really shine in TDM.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
TBH, the melee in KZ2 was a bit too onerous
Artemis-Thoth
Member
And this is why console fps games just can't capture me. There's just a lack of precision and accuracy. Strafing also looks weird. Was really hoping next gen would have full mouse + kb support.
I've seen console players who are waaaay more accurate than that.
yeah... stick to PC for FPS then. Forever...
TimeEffect
Member
I liked the KZ2 version too. I really hope the lunge present in KZ3 is gone. I much prefer it if Recon was forced to one hit kill from the back.
The guy is playing like shit...
On top of that, he's playing the game wrong. You don't play Killzone by going ADS when an enemy is within 20 meters of you. wtf :-/
And I hope we never get mouse+kb on the new systems. Keep that shit away from consoles.
what auto-aim?
SniperHunter
Banned
and I have seen pc snipers who can't shoot for shit. Bs statement
I don't know maybe it was how it looked, weapon behavior, the stealth ability, the no aim assist, or it just being a funny moment. Nah your right, it was just him not hitting shit that sold it for him.
It's a console, some of you people have really unrealistic expectations ....... full keyboard and mouse support, come on man!
Also the player obviously sucks in this video.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I like shooters but I don't think I could do it.
May God have mercy on your k/d ratio.
He said "once of the most successful YouTube Playstation-based channel"
Never heard of you bro!
ricen-beans
Member
So i noticed you get points for kills, but you rank up by completing challenges.
So what are the points for in-game?
So what are the points for in-game?
Just scoring for player ranking in the match.
ricen-beans
Member
I see. That makes sense. I didn't know if it had anything to do with "combat honors" or any other special abilities.