Yeah I think youre seeing those facts through you're own filter. I just don't think these dudes are biased in that way- at least not sess. Why would he be?
Adam Sessler's: On Xbox One and PS4's Resolutiongate, and Day One Patches
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But they did tell you that the PS4 version is superior. they did tell you that the PS4 is MORE POWERFUL. So is the issue then members of the press aren't screaming and proclaiming how amazingly more powerful the PS4 is than Xbone? That seems to be the issue. NO ONE has said Xbone is stronger than Ps4, quite the contrary. So what's the deal? Is it not "loud" enough perhaps?
digoutyoursoul
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Sorry to be a pain but do you have any links to the whining of not getting free stuff?
this is what I find hilarious.
I know people who would always get multiplats on 360 because they "looked and played better" yet when it seems PS4 will have the better looking and playing multiplats, it's "eh who cares"
Wanting clean image quality and consistent framerates makes you shallow and superficial. Not me, I appreciate the grotesque beauty of shader aliasing, dithered sawtooth shadows and LOD pop-in.
CassidyIzABeast
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What you and other people who keep on bringing up the resolution vs price difference seem to forget is that people have free will. If somebody thinks DR3 is worth $500, why the hell would it be Adam Sessler's job to tell them the Xbox One is overpriced because a game they might not even want runs at a different resolution?
Adam did what he was supposed to. He told the audience there is a resolution difference between Ghosts on PS4 and Ghosts on X1. That's all that needs to be said. The viewer is informed, if they want the best version of Ghosts they will pick up a PS4. Ripping Microsoft a new one because 2 games run at a different resolution is fucking stupid. It was stupid last gen and its stupid now. Resolution isn't the only deciding factor for everybody.
NoirVisage
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Thats what you got from this video huh?(Hint: He wants to convince YOU to not worry about resolutions) You took the wrong pill, wake up.
BurnOutBrighter
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Sorry Adam, you've lost me. The first page of this thread pretty much sums it up.
GAF magazine, here I come.
GAF magazine, here I come.
BruiserBear
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I really like Sessler, but I'd be lying if I said that wasn't all true. He's spent the past 7 months doing a lot of spinning.
Mushroomer25
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His stance is that a hardware difference on those two platforms is bunk, because the experience is going to be more or less the same for a multiplatform title. It's more ultimately more relevant to focus on games when comparing the two machines.
The resolution issue is even less relevant when you consider the possibility that it's only a problem for launch games being rushed to meet the deadline. Now, the Titanfall rumors are positioned to change that - but that's a discussion worth having when we're in a less speculative position.
Steve Youngblood
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Acknowledging that as a distinction isn't the same thing as noting it as an important distinction. And mind you, my intent here isn't to establish that PS4 rules and the Xbox One drools. However, I don't know if it behooves us to downplay that there is a difference in tech. I get a suggestion that there may be perhaps too much vitriol leveled at the Xbox One and Microsoft when the console may very well serve up fun games in the form of exclusives or Multiplatform titles that satisfy many owners, but I don't know if we need meta commentary downplaying the significance of "Resolutiongate."
Even if it seems silly to some, I think the spectacle surrounding this is important in terms of informing people about their tech purchases. If they want an Xbox One anyway due to the games and/or brand loyalty, that's great. I'm sure they'll enjoy their purchase.
I like sessler but I do disagree with him here. As primarily a PC gamers a lot of the games I buy I buy for pc because I can play them at max settings/2560x1600. When you compare that to the current gen of consoles it's a night and day difference. Playing a game that looks like crap can take you out of the experience. A much better looking game can help with the immersion and help you connect better with the story. However, I am a firm believer that graphics are not everything which is why last of us is my game of the year so far. But they can definitely make the game 10x better.
IISANDERII
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He even steps on his own point by referring to more interesting things that can be done with increased computational power by not acknowledging that one system will be able to do that better than the other.
Call of Duty Ghost doesn't seem to have anything special going on with its AI or anything else yet graphical concessions have had to be made anyway on XBone.
I guess Black Ops III on XBone will have to run at 540p to make room for this fancy AI.
In actuality, there will be no special AI in the next Call of Duty, so I think it will run 1080p on XBone
Man-is-Obsolete
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Yet they are the same one's that will look down upon consoles because of how inferior they are to PCs. Soooo which is it? Is power an issue or not? It can't be used as a reason to play games on PC, then be downplayed when talking about the difference between consoles. lol
And I hate this looking down upon gamers thing that is happening. Because we care immediately makes us fanboys, or console warriors. They are generalizing way too much lately.
So where does Adam Sessler specifically say it was about him not getting a free console? There were other people that CLAIMED it was about that, but not Sessler himself as far as I know.
And besides that, he talked about this on youtube and admitted he overreacted to whatever the issue was because of the stress involving this console launch (and as far as I know the issue was still not brought into the public eye).
Was it confirmed that this was re: not getting free consoles or something? I thought it had to do with streaming.
I don't think that there is any way Sessler is confused, he's been in this business too long. He understands the issue completely, but seems to be deliberately obfuscating and using misdirection (it's about the games!) when discussing it. This is frustrating to many people, especially when there seems to be a pattern of this happening a lot lately.
digoutyoursoul
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Right ok. Thanks man
Glass Shark
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It seems like it was more about when Rev3 would be getting access to a console, not that they wouldn't get one at all. And besides, I don't think a network like that would have any problem plunking down the money for a PS4.
LiquidMetal14
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No amount of spinning or word play will hide the sizeable advantage in terms of tech prowess that the PS4 enjoys as well as the enormous games advantage it has. But if media want to make it seem like it's not important then go on.
I will continue to always try to enlighten and make people aware of all factors which go into deciding which console to buy. And yes, that does include how powerful a platform is.
I will continue to always try to enlighten and make people aware of all factors which go into deciding which console to buy. And yes, that does include how powerful a platform is.
Mushroomer25
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Does this thread remind anybody of when hardcore conservatives start losing their shit about the "Liberal Media Conspiracy"?
I'm getting deeply concerned that people have gotten so absorbed in the narrative that the PS4 is an objectively superior console, that they're starting to see a rational opinion as malicious.
I'm getting deeply concerned that people have gotten so absorbed in the narrative that the PS4 is an objectively superior console, that they're starting to see a rational opinion as malicious.
What was the god of war trophy?
BigJoeGrizzly
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Has anyone here considered that maybe people who have been in the Xbox ecosystem for a while (or are at least interested in some of the unique things the Xbone may provide), may actually prefer it for various reasons (friends, exclusives, online, etc), and are willing to accept that not all games will be 1080p? I would love for all my games to be 1080p/60fps with Ultra graphics, but there are other variables at play when deciding which console to purchase.
Full disclosure, I'm happy to be purchasing the Xbone, and I have 10+ friends who have all been on 360 for several years (that I have had so many great gaming memories with) that are all coming on board. Its hard for me to leave all the potential good times and memories I'll have with my buddies just because the PS4 has a bit more powerful GPU, and will display games in a higher resolution. If I have a choice between 1080p and playing alone, and 720p and playing with loads of my friends, I'm going to choose the latter every single time.
Full disclosure, I'm happy to be purchasing the Xbone, and I have 10+ friends who have all been on 360 for several years (that I have had so many great gaming memories with) that are all coming on board. Its hard for me to leave all the potential good times and memories I'll have with my buddies just because the PS4 has a bit more powerful GPU, and will display games in a higher resolution. If I have a choice between 1080p and playing alone, and 720p and playing with loads of my friends, I'm going to choose the latter every single time.
NoirVisage
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You'd think by now he'd reveal it.. I don't want to think its a free console..maybe having to travel for PS4 reviews?
megamerican
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Well of course Adam is not going to come out and say it, cause it would make him look like a complete asshole. The real reason came out anyways and Jim Sterling outright confirmed it in his latest video.
SolidSnakex
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Jim Sterling revealed what it was today. Sony is holding a review event next week for the PS4 (which we already knew about). It's a controlled review event and afterwards they'll be able to take a PS4 back with them. That's it. That's what was putting his career in jeopardy.
TAJ
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Except that a lot of these comments are from people who just jumped ship to Sony this year.
BruiserBear
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You're right, let's just strike that comment from TheWreckage's post? Now let's talk about the rest of his points about Sessler this year. They can each be verified.
THE AVERAGE JOE ISN'T BUYING A NEW CONSOLE THIS YEAR.
So why keep using them to make some sort of point?
You know what the average joe will care about? Price.
digoutyoursoul
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Where you get a free console to take home after the event
This is kinda my take.
Ppl are equating a few editorial pieces w the whole industry, first of all.
sleeprockss
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- Most games journalists, or at least the ones I pay attention to, have said that the ps4 is more powerful than the xbox one. They are just wondering how much of a difference it will make.
- At this point, most people know about the price difference if they were planning on buying a new console anyways.
- They can't compare the launch titles at this point because most of them are still under embargo. In BF4's case there are comparison videos out there detailing the differences and I've seen tons of news articles about the resolution differences.
If it's a reviewers opinion that the differences weren't noticeable to them then that's their prerogative but don't act like they haven't laid out all of the facts in the first place.
Power isn't an issue if you play on a powerful PC, it then becomes about the games because my resolution is superior to a PS4, so it has to be about the games. and double standards abound, Nintendo fans are called fanboys constantly so I see no issue with it being used on others who seem to be a bit too... engrossed in this argument.
Or so some internet people claimed. I'm not going to take their word as law like you are.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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It's pretty sad.
Mushroomer25
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The (completely speculative) conclusion that the thread made when those tweets came out, was that only select media outlets were getting PS4 units that were compatible with their video capturing setups.
hahaha, good to know. What an overreaction.
NoirVisage
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Rationality suddenly takes hold after a generation of irrationality? Sure. There's rational, then there's rationalizing.. learn the difference.
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thepotatoman
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Everyone here was probably ok with someone buying a console for other reasons then graphics or price. What we're not ok with is people saying that power and price shouldn't even be a part of the consideration.
RedNumberFive
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You guys really need to stop giving this man an audience.
You mean the other stuff that the internet has overblown? No thanks.
There's nothing wrong with that. What people have a problem with is people downplaying the huge power difference like you just did and failing to mention the price difference.
To you and your friends I say this, weigh your options. Don't just buy Xbox One because you liked the 360.
Mushroomer25
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Exactly. People are ranting on a lack of objective comparative reporting in what are distinctly editional segments. As if shit like this wasn't being posted by every outlet on the internet interested in such reporting.
BruiserBear
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Uh, in the past week I have heard this same exact brand of spin from people at IGN, Polygon, Sessler, 8-4 Play podcast, Cheapy D, and GiantBomb.
To call this an isolated incident would not be true at all. There is literally an XB1 defense being put on by the media this past week, in response to the XB1 finally be outed for what it is. The most expensive console by $100, and the weakest by a fair margin.
It's embarrassing to watch paid "professionals" behave this way.
It's more the equivalent of liberals being angry at cnn's 'unbiased opinions'.
Glass Shark
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It's not the first time he's done it. He also posted some very dire-sounding things on Twitter when it was first revealed that the PS4 would have HDCP at launch, so they wouldn't be able to capture footage and make videos, which is how they make their living. Which is really silly considering that you can just buy a $25 HDMI splitter that will let you capture footage regardless of HDCP.
They should just not go to the review event. In fact I recall people on GT saying that they don't go to these kind of controlled events. Why bitch about it now? Wait for launch like the smaller sites.
whining about going to a review event
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