Nintendo doesn't generally do price drops on software. It's possible individual retailers have dropped prices, but I'm not sure.
Media Create Sales: Week 45, 2013 (Nov 04 - Nov 10)
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Nintendo doesn't generally do price drops on software. It's possible individual retailers have dropped prices, but I'm not sure.
Probably, yes. The game needs to be phenomenal though, Nintendo needs to go all in with it.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I've had this argument a million times on GAF, but treating the Wii as anything other than an anomaly on any kind of trend chart is doing yourself a disservice. That 80-million+ extended audience isn't coming back for a long time if ever, and the WiiU fitting so perfectly into the previous downward slope speaks volumes.
Yes the Wii happened, yes it made them a shit-ton of money, but going forward its just not relevant to their future.
When people speak of "helping", what outcome are they ever looking at for WiiU? Third party support is at this point not coming back. So the only metric would be Nintendo's own first party software selling to "okay" levels after the install base is boosted by a Mario Kart spike or whatever. The problem then is the 3DS is right there and everyone can say "well why didn't you make this on 3DS instead and sold five times as much?"
Yep...The PS4 situation in Japan will probably be a strange one as I fully expect it to do well elsewhere while I expect Wii U level sales in Japan.
Your theoretical trend is as good as mine. The biggest bone I have to pick with this theory is, again, that it ignores the Wii to further it's own agenda rather than place itself in reality. The truth of the matter is far more complicated then "Each Nintendo Console Drops 10 Million" and pointing to that as a trend not only fully ignores the Wii but assumes that it's an irreversible trend that can't change when the fact is that the console market has too many variables to ever make some sort of line of regression between consoles, let alone a linear one.
For 3DS, you listed one port. You also listed an original game made from old assets, Mercenaries 3D, which you referred to as a port. You also listed an expansion, MH3G, which you called a port. Then you listed five original games, one of which is going to be part of a multimedia franchise. And you also forget that sound-based original title that Capcom released early in the 3DS' life, something something mansion.
You then listed two ports for Vita. Dragon's Dogma Quest is coming to iOS before hitting Vita, so I'll let you decide if that's multiplatform or not. It's not an exclusive at any rate, and it certainly doesn't suggest that the two systems are being treated the same.
As for "3DS has 3 ports before it started getting original content." I don't think that Capcom needs to hit a certain number of ports before they start releasing original content - we knew about Revelations before the 3DS launched, if I recall.
I always think it's terrible when we start grouping members into camps. It's a lot better when it's the statements that are discussed.
michaelius
Banned
January and February before price drop were super bad in 2012 for Vita. Riding the wave from FF X HD on 26.12 those initial weeks should give it enough YOY advantage to cover price drop.
How is the biggest sales boon of the company's history irrelevant?
shinra-bansho
Member
Presumably you mean 50K/week in December.
That's the low bar I've set for it. I don't see it doing much more than that.
We both know the the Wii U has no future.
*gasp*
Prove me wrong, Wii U, prove me wrong.
Ah. I only asked 'cos I thought cheap arse early titles wouldn't hurt. NSMBU & ZombiU for £19.99 equivalent in Yen might not be so bad...
I want to hear about Iwats'a strategy for next year and years beyond. That is, if he is the one around to make them. :lol
Everyone's spending WiiU money on PSV. So...
... all hail our 3DS Overlord!
The Wii U collapse is not surprising. They didn't really alleviate any of the Wii U's problems. There's nothing compelling for the system at the moment and a bundle of games that have been out for the console isn't going to keep the Wii U afloat. When your console lacks software of course it's going to drop. People who were holding on buying the console until a bundle came along bought the system, but you've ignored people who want more games. At least Mario will fix this to some extent, right? Maybe they should have kept DKC on schedule for release this year rather than delay the game.
The Wii U bundle wonder is over early. Back where it belongs, being more dead than the Vita 
It really needs more games to have a sustainable sales growth.
Let me suggest this one: PS Vita - the champion.
It really needs more games to have a sustainable sales growth.
Let me suggest this one: PS Vita - the champion.
I'm hoping the PS4 does well, but yea, I don't see it doing too hotly, but it will be much better than the Wii U. I think it will stay in the 15K range rather than under 10K.
I don't really have much faith in any other platform to go up YOY, but that's more due to the 3DS having a great year in terms of software, and the Vita doing well during the price drop period and now doing okay during the new model period, and it had a good amount of software as well.
I see there are still people who believe in miracles.
Aquamarine
Member
Code:
[B]FAMITSU HARDWARE SALES, WEEK 45, 2013 (November 4th - November 10th):[/B]
3DS - 74,255
PSV - 22,924
[B]WIU - 14,060[/B]
PS3 - 11,932
PSP - 3,424
WII - 793
360 - 245A 65% week-over-week decline is a horrible retention for Wii U, but it was to be expected.
I fear for the system creeping back into <10K territory after Super Mario 3D World / Taiko no Tatsujin releases. Lack of a baseline shift is the real danger of the system. The more it keeps dipping into abysmal levels, the less likely third-parties will decide to support it.
It is not a miracle if it already happened once (or twice, if you add the PS3).
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
WiiU dropped like a rock. Expected though.
3DS and PS3 both have great third party support, wiht the 3DS also having Japan's biggest first party IP's. WiiU and to a slightly lesser extent Vita have poor third party support and Vita has a distinct lack of big 1st party IP's.
3DS and PS3 both have great third party support, wiht the 3DS also having Japan's biggest first party IP's. WiiU and to a slightly lesser extent Vita have poor third party support and Vita has a distinct lack of big 1st party IP's.
Canis lupus
Member
Wii U sales
Sammy Samusu
Member
Care to name the PS3 miracle?
No way. PS3 is on a downward trend the whole year and its last holidays weren't great either. Wii U don't even need to do well to surpass it on the holidays.
I don't know what to expect of Wiiu on december, but i know 50k would be god awful. I think Nintendo can do much better. I just don't know if they will. lol
Animal Crossing New Leaf came out last year.
Yeah, comparing a major release week to one without one will almost never look as strong despite the health of a platform.
Unless you mean it being relatively the same YTD-wise, at which point I'd just suggest there is a demand cap that, while pretty high, is still lower than last gen as mobile eats at aspects of the DS audience.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
The less likely we will see a decent operating profit from Nintendo as well. I'm seriously contemplating on selling my shares now, 12% return if so, the lowest gain in my portfolio, and have a wait and see approach until March and seek other avenues for improving my portfolio.
theprodigy
Member
Waking up to a new chapter of resolutiongate and fresh Wii U bombas?
Just another Wednesday at gaf
Just another Wednesday at gaf
FreedomFighter
Member
You lost me here... I don't know what you mean.
No game will save the Wii U. What it needs is a steady flow of games and it won't get one from Nintendo 1st party only and 3rd party either bombed or doesn't care.
Yeah Nintendo needs to figure something out for their next gen handheld and home console or else mobile will continue to eat their market share.
Yeah Nintendo needs to figure something out for their next gen handheld and home console or else mobile will continue to eat their market share.
.Visualante2
Member
Nintendo should be looking at the way Apple tried to turn iPod users into Mac owners I think. No idea how but it's the WiiU's only hope I think. Smash Bros might be able to achieve some of this, but perhaps too little too late (and likely without any cross buy)
Feels like Animal Crossing, Pokemon and Mario are more the pillars of Nintendo these days than their hardware.
Feels like Animal Crossing, Pokemon and Mario are more the pillars of Nintendo these days than their hardware.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Cringing at the Wii U drop... 17k from Media Create seemed slightly better than the 14k of Famitsu... so Japan has 4 Wii U titles left this year?
Mario 3D World - 11/22
Taiko - 11/22
Mario & Sonic - 12/5
Monster Hunter Frontier G - 12/11
... and then next year we have like no Japanese third party titles except Puyo Puyo?....
Sigh... Maybe Nintendo needs to start moneyhatting Western games to be Wii U exclusive or at least ported to Wii U. Not that it's helping the 360, but at least the shelves might not be empty.
And to whoever said 3.9 million consoles in Japan for the Wii U would be disastrous, the GameCube sold 4 million in Japan, just as a reference point.
Mario 3D World - 11/22
Taiko - 11/22
Mario & Sonic - 12/5
Monster Hunter Frontier G - 12/11
... and then next year we have like no Japanese third party titles except Puyo Puyo?....
Sigh... Maybe Nintendo needs to start moneyhatting Western games to be Wii U exclusive or at least ported to Wii U. Not that it's helping the 360, but at least the shelves might not be empty.
And to whoever said 3.9 million consoles in Japan for the Wii U would be disastrous, the GameCube sold 4 million in Japan, just as a reference point.
Nightstick11
Banned
A drop to 17,000 isn't that bad. Just gotta see what the new bassline is.
And also, wow at Pokemon almost catching Monster Hunter.
And also, wow at Pokemon almost catching Monster Hunter.
There were no games right unlike last week?
The Abominable Snowman
Member
*Marks calendar for Nov. 27th Media Create for week of 18th-24th*
The perfect Dark
Banned
But released games don't disappear...?
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
I forgot about Disney Infinity on Wii U and 3DS - November 28, 2013
But still a pretty small list.
Wow, Wii Party U has only sold 53k after 2 weeks, and most of those in hardware bundles. That is pretty terrible. Maybe this will be Nintendo's wakeup call that the casuals are gone and they are not coming back. Hopefully they'll stop screwing around and wasting time making "party" games and focus on the good stuff.
It has sold 106k, it's actually one of the best performing titles on the wii u...
Eh... if they don't target softcore gamers then who the hell are they going to target?
Metallix87
Member
They might as well.
metalslimer
Member
So that's 2 territories where the Wii ___ series is basically irrelevant now. And considering how badly the original Wii Party did on the Wii in America in comparison to the other territories, I'm not expecting much. The interesting thing is what Nintendo will puti these teams to doing now that their casual boom is over. They've basically only being working on these types of games for the last 8 years, so part me thinks they will keep trying until it becomes unprofitable
Everyone else? At least with Wii U, they've built a device that the audience they got with the Wii doesn't want.
1st Course
Member
Like other have said already, 3DS is going to fall behind its 2012 YTD next week.
With Pokemon + MH + Tomodachi I honestly thought it was going to outsell its last year YTD very easily but it doesn't seem like it.
With Pokemon + MH + Tomodachi I honestly thought it was going to outsell its last year YTD very easily but it doesn't seem like it.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
And now you know the situation Nintendo is in.
Graphics Horse
Member
That's the MC number, so without bundles. Look at Famitsu's 100k+ for the bundles included.
And it would be foolish to judge Wii Party U on two weeks of sales. Considering the position the U is in, it is already doing quite well. Casual games don't make most of their sales upfront, if word of mouth is good it will see rising sales too at some points.
The Ghost of Laguna haunts all the juniors.
Seems like teeth-gnashing is tied to Vita sales lately.
Also, Exestra or whatever that garbage is: can we finally lay to rest the, "Any game on Vita would sell better on 3DS" arguments?
Edit: Do people think the PS3 could get a bit of a second wind with a price cut? Or is it's install base more or less maxed?