Presumably not, but those were add-ons for other pieces of hardware. Vita TV is its own hardware. Other than a controller it's self sufficient.
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Media Create Sales: Week 45, 2013 (Nov 04 - Nov 10)
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Presumably not, but those were add-ons for other pieces of hardware. Vita TV is its own hardware. Other than a controller it's self sufficient.
Wii U does things that some people cherish, such as Off Tv and local multiplayer, on top of playing some damn good exclusives.
About the gimmick thing, I'd like you to comment on that. My two most played games on the platform this year are FIFA 13 and TW101, two titles that play like on any other console/controller (with additional control options).
They did because of handhelds. And as for PS2 that's really BS.
That1BlackGuy
Member
True true, spacing their releases have been a large problem. Even if some of their titles won't increase hardware numbers they can potentially mitigate hard drops. Taiko is going to get massively overshadowed by 3D World.
Hey crazier things have happened. Then again I just remembered that they're releasing a GE2 bundle as well so maybe you're right lol.
Let's not make shit up. From the info I got (granted it was one of the first results on a quick google search so it ma not be 100% accurate but find me something better first.) Nintendo was more profitable than Sony's gaming division in 2002 and 2004-2011
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
So, which will sell better in Japan: Super Mario 3D World or Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds?
Mario 3D world: Japan still likes Mario, but this is on Wii U
Zelda: ALBW: On the 3DS, but Japan doesn't particularly care for Zelda beyond 2-300K at best.
Mario 3D world: Japan still likes Mario, but this is on Wii U
Zelda: ALBW: On the 3DS, but Japan doesn't particularly care for Zelda beyond 2-300K at best.
FreedomFighter
Member
Don't pay that any mind, things are only a "gimmick" when Nintendo does them. When competitors follow suit, it's "cool". Off screen play... yeah.
But the 3DS did meet the forecasts for Japan, I think?
Gamecube was profitable. We know this from IR reports and interviews with Nintendo staff. I'm also unsure where you've gotten the idea Nintendo was barely profitable during that generation? They made more money from 2000-2005 than PS2-era SCE did and they never posted a loss.
Sammy Samusu
Member
This thread.
Yup thanks to GBA.
Zelda: ALBW > FFXIII LR > SM3DW
Are you kidding? OoT 3D sold like 500k. ST sold over 700k. PH sold over 900k.
Clearly a linear trend downwards. The Handheld Zelda 2 games after ALBW will sell -100k.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Are you kidding? OoT 3D sold like 500k. ST sold over 700k. PH sold over 900k.
OoT sold 500k? I thought it only reached 300? And I know Skyward Sword didn't do much.
I guess I was wrong then, never mind.
spatenfloot
Member
People do tend to like the off tv play, but the range is very limited and the tablet controller is expensive for Nintendo to make, preventing needed price cuts.
The PS4/vita combo might be more appealing in Japan (despite the cost) because the Vita can be taken outside and played separately. Plus it has games of its own.
This is completely false. Now you're just making stuff up.
Japan doesn't care for Zelda on consoles.
FreedomFighter
Member
I didn't even know about that game releasing next week... :/
You calling someone out for "picking" on Vita when you may as well put "Wii U" in the subject line of like 80% of your posts.
Smiles and Cries
Member
if U did not expect the Wii U to drop U have not been following
still kinda sad... next bump during Mario 3D World I guess but Wii U cannot really do much when 3DS is the bread and butter
they wont give it a true Pokemon
still kinda sad... next bump during Mario 3D World I guess but Wii U cannot really do much when 3DS is the bread and butter
they wont give it a true Pokemon
Actually no, Nintendo WAS more profitable than Sony during that gen. It's hard to say exactly what was pushing these numbers, but it's unlikely even with the juggernaught GBA that they'd have been able to pull them off if Gamecube was pushing them into the red.
Does Japan even like Zelda in general? Seems like that franchise is vastly more popular outside of Japan.
Are you kidding? OoT 3D sold like 500k. ST sold over 700k. PH sold over 900k.
So that'd be 1.1m for ALBW then. Nice!
I'd say that's a fair comment.
That's true, but I've bought Happy Meals for street kids. A PS3->Vita port and a carpet bomb port are not signs of interest.
Look at how Capcom and Square Enix they supported the PSP and then how they supported the Vita. For Capcom you can compare the Vita's first year of support with the 3DS. If you can't see the difference, you are a crazy person
Koei and Namco may be interested in the Vita, but certainly those two.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Are you kidding? OoT 3D sold like 500k. ST sold over 700k. PH sold over 900k.
those are not Mario numbers but I guess dats the joke
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Ah okay. Then Zelda it is then. My apologies for the uninformed question.
Where did you get that? Made up to suit your agenda? Ok.
Maybe you should learn to read.
That's hardly vitriol.
We've seen nothing to suggest that it's more powerful than the 360 or ps3 and you can be sick and tired of it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that neither Nintendo nor the few third party developers making games for their system have absolutely no idea what to do with that controller. They put out an underpowered system and their major "innovation" is a controller that lacks the functionality of every other touchscreen device. There's nothing about the system that justifies it being called "a good piece of kit" that deserves good sales.
I'm not so sure about a "true Pokemon" akin the handheld series on the WiiU. But a fully fledged out Pokemon Stadium with online shenanigans will be a better idea. Now include the PokeBank into the equation...
FreedomFighter
Member
C'mon, man. Goalposts and all... OoT was a remake to the best selling Zelda game of all time and did pretty good for a game on a struggling 3DS. Phantom Hourglass REVERSED Zelda's downward trend. And Spirit Tracks performed in line with every *second* Zelda game (Majora's Mask, Skyward Sword) where there's a tapering off of the fanbase
I'd agree except for the part that's not true. Gamecube was a disaster, Wii U is even more of one, but Gamecube actually made money.
What? Did I offend you in some way? I was just asking a question. I don't know the actual numbers for handheld Zelda games. Sheesh. Everyone has to be so damn rude.
I'm answering your question.
spatenfloot
Member
WiiU is certainly more powerful than the PS3/360 but there is no incentive for developers to use it. End result is shoddy ports.
airmangataosenai
Member
Heh, kind of embarrassing that I missed that. But even then, Terry's Wonderland and the original's bundle didn't push as many units as DQVII did and this is a sequel that's unlikely to attract a new audience, so the overall point about sales still stands. Especially for Zelda vs. Luigi.
I'm sorry, but I didn't see any answer...just some rude comment.
Sorry, I was kind of making a joke. Obviously the Zelda handheld game 2 games from now won't sell negative 100k. I'm still somewhat cautious about ALBW's potential in JP, but I'm willing to accept it could do well.
Today's thread feels like someone suddenly unleashed the hounds from all sides, not much interesting dicussion apart from that.
For me, the Wii U dropping by this amount seemed pretty normal considering the numbers it has achieved last week. If anything it's still better than the disastrous situation it was in earlier, even if it's only by an infenitesimal amount. I can't find the post Aquamarine made about previous Wii U drops but this seems to be in the middle of them.
Battlefield 4 is a bit lower than BF3 opening I think, at least it's not showing growth which might be worrying for a franchise that's supposed to be growing in new markets for it like Japan.
I really like how Vita has been settling at around 20k units recently, GE2 couldn't have asked for a better context to launch in.
Finally, I think Bandai Namco has been doing pretty well this year.
For me, the Wii U dropping by this amount seemed pretty normal considering the numbers it has achieved last week. If anything it's still better than the disastrous situation it was in earlier, even if it's only by an infenitesimal amount. I can't find the post Aquamarine made about previous Wii U drops but this seems to be in the middle of them.
Battlefield 4 is a bit lower than BF3 opening I think, at least it's not showing growth which might be worrying for a franchise that's supposed to be growing in new markets for it like Japan.
I really like how Vita has been settling at around 20k units recently, GE2 couldn't have asked for a better context to launch in.
Finally, I think Bandai Namco has been doing pretty well this year.
Because you haven't learned to read. Try again, and start from the top this time.
Yes, somewhere in these threads were posted Nintendo's targets for Japan last year that were easily topped. I don't know if there is a seperate forecast this year but most likely Japan won't be the responsible territory for the upcoming 2013 shipment downgrade.
Are you kidding? OoT 3D sold like 500k. ST sold over 700k. PH sold over 900k.
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vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
The Wii U had quite a steep drop to be honest. Not what I was expecting.
The Wii U is a good console and has its merits; however, the longer Nintendo prolonged the software and the adequate support it deserved, the longer consumers can shape an opinion of the Wii U and make their mind of it. There is this ''stigma'' associated with the Wii U currently in many gamers mind, and I don't know if it will dissipate anytime soon.
It's a shame
The Wii U is a good console and has its merits; however, the longer Nintendo prolonged the software and the adequate support it deserved, the longer consumers can shape an opinion of the Wii U and make their mind of it. There is this ''stigma'' associated with the Wii U currently in many gamers mind, and I don't know if it will dissipate anytime soon.
It's a shame
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
It just gets a little bit weird when this week Vita pulls in okay stable baseline sales with no real big software to speak of, and people are still trying to kick it in the teeth for quite frankly very transparent transference. The ghost of Laguna is a powerful force in MC threads, and as the distasteful event of really good Vita sales next week crests the waves, his power over the weakened forces in this thread is fueled further still and at an all time high...
Magicpaint
Member
Welp, WiiU all the way back down. Vita should have a big bump next week of course. Also curious to see what Vita TV does.
Their goal is to sell 5m this year which they will. Their goal isn't to surpass 2012 which was easily one of the best years for any system anything in Japan ever.
Their goal is to sell 5m this year which they will. Their goal isn't to surpass 2012 which was easily one of the best years for any system anything in Japan ever.
You said... "Japan doesn't care for Zelda on consoles."
I don't see anything about numbers of handheld games sold or anything close to it in that comment. I was just asking a more general question for the heldheld side. In which case you responded with some rude comment.
The Mana Legend
Banned
We'll see how 3D World holds up. The preorder numbers look bad, but Mario is the kind of series that never sells impressively its first week, but remains in the top 10 for the next century. So we'll see if 3D World has those kinds of sales numbers.