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Media Create Sales: Week 45, 2013 (Nov 04 - Nov 10)
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That's what happens when you don't know how to read and just want to jump into a discussion. Try following a discussion next time before hitting POST REPLY like a scrub.
Are you kidding? OoT 3D sold like 500k. ST sold over 700k. PH sold over 900k.
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All on the same page
This thread is moving fast and I didn't see the previous post with the numbers in it. That still didn't give you the right to be rude. A simple I posted the numbers above would have sufficed, but instead you decided to be rude. I was more going for the discussion (console vs. handheld Zelda), but still that didn't mean you had to act the way you did.
Are you kidding? OoT 3D sold like 500k. ST sold over 700k. PH sold over 900k.
600k
(596.642 - 5 months ago)
BishopLamont
Banned
The thing Wii U has going is that next year's games will be bigger and the userbase is higher, other than that without third parties its gonna be a long road ahead.
You of all people shouldn't be complaining about Vita bashing when all you do is bash the Wii U.
Do you think GBA produced enough profits to overcome PS2's profits? Hell no, Gamecube software would have helped to achieve that.
strangedopamine
Member
On MC the Wiiu is higher, but since it was lower last week than Famitsu, it's almost the same number of sales since the bundle.
Anyway, i see we have 14k happy people with two games. Wii Party U is being a failure on retail. Only 53k is much lower than i expected and makes me nervous for Taiko. Hope for better things.
Battlefield 4 also got a much lower fw. I guess everyone is waiting for Ghosts
Anyway, i see we have 14k happy people with two games. Wii Party U is being a failure on retail. Only 53k is much lower than i expected and makes me nervous for Taiko. Hope for better things.
Battlefield 4 also got a much lower fw. I guess everyone is waiting for Ghosts
It gets obnoxious when the same data has to be repeated for every person in a thread especially if it's less than 20 posts later. It didn't even move that fast as it was on the same page. If someone tells you to read then chances are you're not going to have to scroll back much to find out what they're talking about.
kingkaiser
Member
You didn't see the previous post because you didn't follow the discussion. It's as simple as that. Stop trying to deflect blame. When replying to something which was directed to someone else, it pays to put in the effort to at least read the entire exchange between the people having the actual conversation before butting in.
Impressive. Looks like Garaph hasn't updated that entry since the end of 2011.
Mistakes happen, we're just people. I must have glanced over the post without realizing what it was. That doesn't give anyone the right to be rude, though. There's no defending that kind of stuff. A simple "scroll up" or "I posted them above" would have been enough. I thought this forum was above that kind of childish behavior....
Posts are all public and people jump in on various comments all the time. That still doesn't give anyone the right to be rude to someone.
You know it's a chart showing Nintendo's finances because it ends in 2010.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
Member
So what's Iwata going to do when they don't even break half of their sales forecast?
Can't wait to read the investor meeting and Q&A at the end of this fiscal year. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Iwata, but I just think this sales forecast might be the craziest thing he's said.
Can't wait to read the investor meeting and Q&A at the end of this fiscal year. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Iwata, but I just think this sales forecast might be the craziest thing he's said.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
When WiiU has a good sales week, I give it its due applause. Boiling me down to 2-dimensions is a poor tactic for those incapable of refuting my posts intellectually.
This week I feel Vita did pretty okay! Which is kinda weird when discussion goes in a certain direction. Thing is fucking doomed everywhere else in the world of course, but in JPN sales threads it seems like a particularly odd place to be seeing such forth. Or not I guess considering the faithful "WELL AT LEAST IT ISN'T ____" mindset turned to.
There's nothing rude about telling someone to do something which would immediately aid them in finding their answer. I told you to learn to read. If instead of being offended you actually took the hint, you would have realized your mistake and moved on. Instead you wanted to make it into some incident. Sadly no one is on your side here because you should have just... learned to read.
other than GE2 I dont see those doing much for vita tv, they'll sell much better for ps3
megabytecr
Member
Wii U needs consistent releases and some major IPs. Once those arrive we can expect healthier weekly numbers. That is taking forever though, come on Nintendo!!
Because I love pulling trying to pull the smug carpet from under your well-polished shoes, I'm afraid this one only goes to 2010 because it was used in a 2010 article. I can also confirm they had no time machine.
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/TimT...laystation_are_potentially_doomed.php?print=1
Reverse Image search is pretty fun.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
Member
There's nothing rude about telling someone to do something which would immediately aid them in finding their answer. I told you to learn to read. If instead of being offended you actually took the hint, you would have realized your mistake and moved on. Instead you wanted to make it into some incident. Sadly no one is on your side here because you should have just... learned to read.
But there is something rude about treating them like a child...
I suppose the better piece of advice to give him is "stop taking the internet so seriously."
It is indeed a carzy projection. I can't wait for his excuse on this one.
"Satoru? Me?? Nah. You want Shibata. Yeah. Him and his crazy sales projections! [laughs]"
spatenfloot
Member
So, how 'bout them Japanese sales, eh?
That remains to be seen, no?
He is just making fun of you people. He must be tired of defending the Vita, so he is now in a stage where he is basically trolling you all.
Keep the good work, Dave
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Good Vita hold. I hope Vita reaches 100k (posible, but it's not a given) with the GE2 + TV combo.
There's nothing rude about telling someone to do something which would immediately aid them in finding their answer. I told you to learn to read. If instead of being offended you actually took the hint, you would have realized your mistake and moved on. Instead you wanted to make it into some incident. Sadly no one is on your side here because you should have just... learned to read.
I don't care who's on who's side. What you said was wrong and I'm simply pointing that out. You didn't have to be rude about it.
Anyway, I'm done with this topic. I used to think you were pretty cool, man.
Spieler Eins
Member
oh wow, Japan likes Battlefield...
Interceptor
Banned
No, it has to be a conspiracy!
None of this would have happened if you just... read the conversation. Sigh. Why are some people so stubborn.
BishopLamont
Banned
BF4 is only like 25k~ difference, wouldn't call it "much lower".
He is just making fun of you people. He must be tired of defending the Vita, so he is now in a stage where he is basically trolling you all.
Keep the good work, Dave
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Good Vita hold. I hope Vita reaches 100k (posible, but it's not a given) with the GE2 + TV combo.
You people? What do you mean "You People." I'm not exactly being serious myself and I'd like to consider myself at least somewhat impartial. Before X and Y, my Vita was getting more playtime than my 3DS and I prefer the PS3 to the Wii. Etc. Etc. I'm not particularly pro-anyone, just anti-bullshit =P
None of this would have happened if you just... read the conversation. Sigh. Why are some people so stubborn.
I've been meaning to ask, but do you know the price tag for the early titles released for the WiiU? Are they still the same now or have they gone down in price??
Metallix87
Member
The irony
Also if it was then why does it have inferior multiplats and non of the exclusives look better than PS3 exclusives? And yes the WiiU is a gimmick like the Wii.
How is it ironic, exactly?
Inferior multiplats can be explained away be devs not giving a shit about Wii U.
Super Mario 3D looks on par with, if not better than, what PS3 offers, IMO.
And yes, both Wii and Wii U are gimmick-based, but that's not necessarily a negative, and a lot more systems used gimmicks to succeed.
....dude, it was a joke. I thought the phrasing made that fairly clear. Perhaps I should start adding a small disclaimer.
'caution: this post may contain trace elements of mirth and merriment'.
shinra-bansho
Member
This week's thread sure is snipey
Console launches in the air.
Console launches in the air.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
To be honest its because that bullshit 2011 Earnings excel chart kept getting overused recently by... *ahem* "those people" so charts from 3 years ago are kind of an instant "oh you" reaction.
I think anyone trying to spin the GC's performance as good news is kind of always going to be pushing against the tide, especially in any conversation relating to WiiU's own fortunes. Losing 10 million in audience each console generation other than Wii is grim news even if you are making some slim profit on the hardware. I think Nintendo would rather be seeing their "most effort put in" software getting the 500k sales than 100k slipslides.
It really is not. I mixed numbers and spoke bullshit. My bad. Lol
metalslimer
Member
Yeah besides the terrible Wii U collapse, there's not really much to discuss here. Also how do people possibly think Wii U will stabilize at above 15k when it dropped 20k in a week.This thing is going below or at least close to below 10k. 3D World and Taiko will save it, but I'm starting to think it won't be able to sell above 50k in December
Go back to your 3DS, Smoky. You're drunk.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
I wonder how much 3D World will help.
Mario Kart 8 will help a ton in the spring, right?
Mario Kart 8 will help a ton in the spring, right?
According to Aqua's notes, this isn't even the Wii U's steepest collapse. To think it slid worse than this really paints a grim picture.
As a fellow Brit I thought you'd be able to detect my sarcastic, smarmy response. I thought the quip about time machines and well polished shoes would give it away... perhaps it should be me who adds a disclaimer to the end of my posts.
I mean no, the GC wasn't a success. The Wii U isn't going to be a success either. That, however, doesn't take away the fact that Nintendo WAS more profitable than Sony during the GC's era. Would it have been without the GBA? Fuck no, but the GC was profitable, even if it wasn't successful. I'd also like to take issue with the "10 million" every generation except Wii thing I see everywhere. I think ignoring in this case the pattern only fits when the Wii is conveniently ignored. The Wii had a base it's not getting back but you can't just ignore it and claim there's a trend as a result.
The only difference I see between Capcom for Vita and 3DS is pretty much the same!
Capcom started off the 3DS with a port of Super Street Fighter 4, and Resident Evil Mercenaries which is a port of a "Mode" from RE 4 and RE 5. Later on you have MH3 which is a port. Other than that you have the EX Trooper, Collab with Level 5 for Layton vs. Wright, RE Revelations, Phoenix Wright DD, and Monster Hunter 4. Gaist Crusher is next month. So that is 5 original titles with the 6th coming out next month. The difference is there but not as large as it seems. 3DS has 3 ports before it started getting original content.
Vita has SFxT and Ultimate Marvel, however they do have Dragons Dogma Quest which is an Original title. (Not excited for it but whatever)
http://www.capcom-unity.com/dragons...22057/30050301/dragons-dogma-quest-vita-japan
For Square it wasn't until PSP's 2nd year 2007 that it got the original title Crisis Core.
If anything this shows that history is repeating itself. Main difference is that 3DS has more titles than Vita but not by much. Vita side of things could potentially follow PSP path for Square. How you do it does not matter "You have to warm up to someone before you give it your all <3"
metalslimer
Member
Without the help of other software, nothing is going to create a sustained bump.
Anyone who is following Square right now would know this is complete fantasy.
I'm not sure it'll will, by much. Not because 3D World will turn out to be shite. But that the WiiU will be too "toxic" for it. Mario Kart 8 releasing in place of 3D World would have been a better prospect.
strangedopamine
Member
This collapse is worse than the highest one as that was Week 1 - Week 2, which historically, has very high drops of around 50%-70%.
Metallix87
Member
"A ton" is arguable at this point. Nintendo has mismanaged this system so badly, that I'm starting to think there's no fixing it. I think, come January, we'll be able to reasonably estimate the future for the system, and exactly how bleak it will be.
Total consoles YTD
YTD: 6.470.357
Last YTD: 6.831.046
3DS + PSV + Wii U can't help overcome the decline of the PS3, PSP, and Wii. I wonder if the PS4 will help next year since presumably, all other consoles are likely to be in a decline.
YTD: 6.470.357
Last YTD: 6.831.046
3DS + PSV + Wii U can't help overcome the decline of the PS3, PSP, and Wii. I wonder if the PS4 will help next year since presumably, all other consoles are likely to be in a decline.
Yea, lots of attacks on each other.
metalslimer
Member
I doubt it. 3DS will be down again. PS3 will pretty much collapse. PSP will be dead. I want to say PSV will be down because the price drop boosted it, but it might actually be up depending on how much momentum comes in this holiday. And with what we know of the PS4 lineup, it will be under 10k pretty quickly.
I quote you because it was the last "serious" (to some degree) answer. But almost every single comment he's made in the thread has the same tone (like the forecast joke) it's just that i didn't want to re-read every single post.
That's the reason it was "you people" (plural, if my english is correct) instead of just "you".
I'm not saying you are a fanboy or anything. Good games are good regardless the system they are released and I have quite some interest in Pokemon X / Y and other 3DS games (though no money D
I just think that you didn't need to take your time posting that. Obviously it was an old graphic, he was just joking, and some people (maybe you are not in that group) seemed to need a a joke tag or something.Edit: I've seen you last comment. Maybe i need a joke tag myself lol
bigmit3737
Member
Having just bought a Vita, I really want this system to do well! I really hope next week we will see 50-60k.