Well, at least some are. Hopefully it amounts to enough to get this ship out of the murky waters.
Just bought a Wii U. Surprisingly, there were no shortages.
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Well, at least some are. Hopefully it amounts to enough to get this ship out of the murky waters.
Purshased my WiiU NSMB Bundle last Friday. Completed the system transfer Wii->WiiU. Paid the 1$ to 1.5$ fees for eStore versions of Super Metroid, Zelda 2 and PunchOut. Can't wait to replay those on the gamepad. Its a shame that the virtual console section is so barren and that Nintendo Club still offers Wii games instead of WiiU games (at least the 3DS had a few good games last months, Dillon, Donkey Kong(GameBoy), Zelda 1).
Mauricio_Magus
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I paid 400 bucks for one and it's totally worth it, Mario is so good.
Christmas for my boys
Bluemercury
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I'm getting the ps4 next friday preordered and payed already but i think the best value for mi money this holidays is the wiiu so...
Already preordered super Mario 3D world, i'm enjoying the console much more than i expected! wind waker HD is glorius and the wonderful 101 is awesomenes.
That beer is great is it german?
don't listen to what a bunch of idiots on the internet are trying to pass off as truth.
Bluemercury
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They could build more studios.
They have been expanding their internal teams.
Outtrigger888
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Ebay will have Wii U bundle, for $250. presumably the mario/luigi one. Them two games, at retail, go for around $80, total.
SporeCrawler
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not enough to be honest. they also missed on a lot of good opportunities to buy third parties.
I'm wondering what it will take for fence-sitters to buy this system when $250 plus $25-40 in free gift cards isn't enough. I think people claiming they still need a price drop are just not interested and actually wouldn't buy at any cost.
I understand if you are invested in PS4 and don't have the time to play another system's worth of games, but don't perpetrate like the system being cheaper will suddenly make it worthwhile. I am in that exact situation right now, but flipped: I am spending my daily gaming hours on my Wii U and literally do not have more gaming time for a PS4. The Wii U is clearly worth the current price, if you have the time to play it.
I understand if you are invested in PS4 and don't have the time to play another system's worth of games, but don't perpetrate like the system being cheaper will suddenly make it worthwhile. I am in that exact situation right now, but flipped: I am spending my daily gaming hours on my Wii U and literally do not have more gaming time for a PS4. The Wii U is clearly worth the current price, if you have the time to play it.
Forgot to mention i live in Mexico, the WiiU is around $400usd here, i paid less for my soon to arrive PS4, if it was $250 here i'd be all over it even without games bundled.
I see a lot of people on gaf "bu bu but but nintendo lacks 3rd party support!" and i was thinking.... are there any 3rd party games that people are excited about?
I mean... when talking about the systems released last week, its unusual to see people bragging about 3rd party games. Its always "Killzone this!" and "Knack that!" and "...." (people dont talk a lot about the xbone when it come to lauch games)
And then you say "right, but these release games on the Xbone and PS4 are far from exciting" and then they proceed to talk about.... "Infamous Second son!" or "Halo!". Always the first party games.
I see last gen was not kind to third parties. Capcom and Konami went from beloved publishers to companies people hate, killed all your favorite franchises. The less we talk about EA, the better. Ubisoft is the one company hanging in there, but people are growing tired of Assassins Creed. Watchdogs is their bet to keep it going, but if you ask me, i think people are walking towards disappointing with this one.
Which leads us to the current situation: people say "But nintenod has no no no 3rd party support" when the 3rd party games arent exactly setting the world on fire with hype. On any plataform.
I mean... when talking about the systems released last week, its unusual to see people bragging about 3rd party games. Its always "Killzone this!" and "Knack that!" and "...." (people dont talk a lot about the xbone when it come to lauch games)
And then you say "right, but these release games on the Xbone and PS4 are far from exciting" and then they proceed to talk about.... "Infamous Second son!" or "Halo!". Always the first party games.
I see last gen was not kind to third parties. Capcom and Konami went from beloved publishers to companies people hate, killed all your favorite franchises. The less we talk about EA, the better. Ubisoft is the one company hanging in there, but people are growing tired of Assassins Creed. Watchdogs is their bet to keep it going, but if you ask me, i think people are walking towards disappointing with this one.
Which leads us to the current situation: people say "But nintenod has no no no 3rd party support" when the 3rd party games arent exactly setting the world on fire with hype. On any plataform.
What's enough? That new Kyoto R&D building should be done anytime now. That houses 1200-1500 people (seen both numbers floating around). They have to fill that somehow. I understand this also includes a significant amount of new people.
Just read this thread. It's still relevant.
Wasn't that building finished last year or so? They should be working on stuff there already. Memory's a bit hazy on that subject though.
SporeCrawler
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Nintendo currently has about 5000 people. I know they are very efficient but they should really consider growing substantially above that. EA, Activision or Ubi for example have a headcount of 7 000 to 9 000 and thats without hardware people.
Sega has over 10 000 (althought they are probably no benchmark).
They could really use a European or American studio beyond what they have now for example.
funny thing is that I went there saw it and didnt even realize what it was. Nintendo is in such a friggin odd place within Kyoto.
It's not that simple. You can't just crunch the numbers together like that.
SporeCrawler
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I know. Still they could use a better output on both 3DS and WiiU quantitywise.
It doesn't happen overnight though. And we know they are already working to address stuff like this. Especially the merging of their handheld and console divisions is very very very interesting and significant.
I also think they should fund a ZombiU 2, just like they did W101 and Bayo2. I also think they should form a couple of smaller technically competent studio's, that could just handle the ports of 3rd party multiplats when 3rd parties intend to skip the platform. I don't know how feasible this is, but these studio's would know the hardware and try to make the port the best version, as well as work to the system's strength (gamepad features). I mean, if i understand correctly, Straight Right asked SE if they could port DE to WiiU, they took initiative? Not sure about the ME3 project. Nintendo should be able to get key 3rd party multiplat games in case those publishers don't want to take the risk of (or invest in) porting it themselves. I'm not talking about any 3rd party game, but the real heavy hitters. Pay for the port (by internal studio's) and carry the publishing cost. Once their costs are covered, they can split profits with the original publisher. I think this way Nintendo takes a small risk, the 3rd party takes no risk at all, and the consumer can rest assured they are not paying for a botched port. On top of being able to get certain games on the platform that would otherwise not be on there.
I'm just thinking out loud.
I'm just thinking out loud.
SporeCrawler
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No you are absolutely right. I was not so much keen on the idea but why the hell not. there should be more than enough studios that would be willing to do a port job (see all the HD remakes that popped up at the end of this gen) for the right price. If Nintendo can secure some key titles by paying for the porting money, why the hell not?
Currently Nintendo is using some third parties to do their heavilifting already (Namco Bandai for Wii Sports and Smash, Ganbarion for Wii Fit for example).
Batman and... nobody knows. The human head project was supposed to be nintendo published.
I mean, let's say for arguments sake, they hired the former Factor5 crew, to form a new internal studio, that was 100% dedicated to porting games like the next Resident Evil, GTA, Battlefield etc... F5 was never known for their amazing art or creativeness, so no talent lost there, but they were wizards with the hardware. You could be damned sure that if they were making a port, and WiiU was really a bit more competent than PS360, that it would definitely show in the result. Nintendo quality control would make sure they never overstep (performance hits in favor of too much blingbling).
How much more confident could you be, paying for a multiplat game, knowing it's going to be a great port, not having to fear it's botched. I think those games would sell a lot better on Nintendo platforms than before. Basically everybody wins.
I just took the guys of F5 as an example, maybe there are even more competent people out there. I also just named a few 3rd party blockbusters, for instance.
SporeCrawler
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I think Nintendo really needs to get their relationship with EA repaired and without a deal similar to what you have described there is just no way. We will see...
Has anybody heard of that Straight Right project? They were working on 3 games:
Mass Effect 3
Deus Ex: HR - DC
And an exclusive... if memory serves me (straight) right.
I'm getting the ps4 next friday preordered and payed already but i think the best value for mi money this holidays is the wiiu so...
Already preordered super Mario 3D world, i'm enjoying the console much more than i expected! wind waker HD is glorius and the wonderful 101 is awesomenes.
I just saw this on reddit. That beer looks really good though. I've always enjoyed Blue Moon but I want to branch out to more "advanced" ones in that style.
On the other hand I asked for the Mario bundle for xmas. With that, Wind Waker, 3d World, and Pikman I have enough games to warrant the system now.
Yup. Have you heard about a launch title called Funky Farm? Because it was that.
Jaded Alyx
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Damn me.
Seriously? That was it? That's depressing considering their other two projects were of a different "order"... and fine ports as well.
I always thought the "exclusive" was the project they would be releasing last.
Funky Barn Funky Barn Funky Barn.
There are still people who didn't realize this. It was Funky Barn. Don't question it. It was discussed multiple times already.
Apparently they're working on a sequel? (recent interview).
Is that supposed to be a Beastie Boys reference?
Funky Boss, Funky Boss, Funky Boss, Funky Boss
Funky Boss, Funky Boss, get off my back!
Funky Boss, Funky Boss, get off my back!
From what we know, that's pretty much what Nintendo's been trying to do.
Iwata said we can expect to see more collaborative projects in the future, and that there's still some unannounced projects for 2014 as well. Maybe we'll hear about 1 or 2 more of these kind of projects for release next year.
FallingEdge
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So picked up:
- Mario Wii U Bundle
- 2 Motion Plus Controllers and Nunchucks
- Wii Classic Controller Pro
- Wonderful 101
- Super Mario 3D World
- Windwaker HD
- Pikmin 3
I was contemplating getting the Zelda Bundle but just decided to get the Mario one instead. Here we go!
edit: I'm thinking about taking back the games due to the buy 2 get 1 40% off at Toys R Us. Any other Wii U Black Friday deals I should be aware of?
- Mario Wii U Bundle
- 2 Motion Plus Controllers and Nunchucks
- Wii Classic Controller Pro
- Wonderful 101
- Super Mario 3D World
- Windwaker HD
- Pikmin 3
I was contemplating getting the Zelda Bundle but just decided to get the Mario one instead. Here we go!
edit: I'm thinking about taking back the games due to the buy 2 get 1 40% off at Toys R Us. Any other Wii U Black Friday deals I should be aware of?
Is that supposed to be a Beastie Boys reference?
Funky Boss, Funky Boss, Funky Boss, Funky Boss
Funky Boss, Funky Boss, get off my back!
YES
Actually, no .. I barely know any Beasty Boys songs but I love me some oldschool Hip Hop references so I'll just roll with it!
FallingEdge
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eShop powered by Origin. Just like EA wanted.
Seriously, fuck EA. Nintendo will lose in Europe but if they can afford to get support from Take2 and hold stronger ties to their existing 3rd parties they'll be ok.
Funding ports opens a door that likely won't ever be closed. It benefits the port owner more I think. However I would not be against them partnering with developers to a point where they co-own an exclusive and it only appears on Nintendo hardware.
As for EA. I think time and effort would be better spent on other companies and making sure the games from them that do get released do better. Ubisoft and Activision for example. However the sports situation needs to be addressed and if not with EA then with Take 2 or start developing their own. Starting with baseball like they used to in the past.
Nintendo should talk to Capcom to revive Mega Man Legends 3 and put it on WiiU.
Imagine the reactions at GAF.
You did well. Enjoy!
I found a statement from Take Two that directly responds to your post:
Take Two: "What's a Ninten ...sorry, could you spell that for me?"
I'm getting the ps4 next friday preordered and payed already but i think the best value for mi money this holidays is the wiiu so...
Already preordered super Mario 3D world, i'm enjoying the console much more than i expected! wind waker HD is glorius and the wonderful 101 is awesomenes.
windwaker and Pikmin 3 were awesome, I didn't like TW101.
No bevy for me till Christmas, I think you just persuaded me to start with a wheat beer.
This is why i made my proposition. I don't know if you read it (higher up on this page). If Nintendo devoted an internal studio to making ports of high profile 3rd party games, covered the publishing costs, and split the earnings with the original port owner... this would be a win-win, no? Nintendo gets a game they would otherwise have not, and thus increase momentum for their platform. The port owner, has an extra platform to sell on, without having to take any risks. The consumer can be sure to get a quality game without having to fear a bad port.
As for opening a door that can never be closed: in this case Nintendo takes initiative and remains in control. Also, 3rd parties willing to take a risk and invest in a port themselves, could still make more money, if they didn't have to split winnings with Nintendo. So they still get an incentive to do it by themselves. Yet, they at least know, if Nintendo handles it internally, they don't take any risks and still will earn more than not having a port on the platform at all.
FallingEdge
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Any suggestions for a charging station?
You don't have the charging cradle?
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