OG_Original Gamer
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I think it will be Bayo 2, X, and a unannounced title. Maybe a HD upgrade title, like F-Zero GX.
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Why do people think X is likely? X is very much a niche game, not the kind of thing to show off at VGX.
Niche or not, the exposure would help it. Fire Emblem was niche too and did spectacular. I don't think it being niche should have any impact on whether it would be shown or not. Remember when W101 was shown on GTTV? That was all niche and they still chose GTTV to show it off.
nckillthegrimace
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Seems like pretty good time for overkill.
This is exactly why I dont think its DK, they did a full show on DKCTF, if we had not gotten DK info for a while I would be worried it would be DK stuff since its the next big game, but after the full show of DK I cant see them showing it again.
As much as I would love for it to be there, the appeal of X and the tastes of the concerned demographic don't coincide in the slightest. Hell, Nintendo's very own audience is apathetic towards it.
Also, there's absolutely no chance they reveal Zelda there. My bet is on Bayonetta 2 and/or SSBU.
Little Mac is one of the most obvious characters, but that's the exact reason why he might not be in Smash. I remember Sakurai saying we wouldn't see fighting characters in the game.
Starphoenix
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I'm not sure abou that. Although anecdotal, most of my classmates on campus who are big Sony and Xbox fans all really dig Super Smash Bros. Whether that would motivate them to get a Wii U or not I couldn't say, but from my experience Smash is one of those default Nintendo games almost every gamer I've encountered seems to enjoy.
The problem with Smash it's a game built for Nintendo fans. True, there are older Nintendo gamers who've moved onto Xbox or Playstation that will be attracted but that's such a small fraction to be targeting. And Bayonetta 2? The first one failed on both 360 and PS3 so what would make Bayo 2 any better of a showing than X?
That's kind of where I agreed with Shikamaru Ninja, but again, that's just a small fraction.
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gamergirly
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The first one had a lot of competition. Not so much on Wii U
What else is releasing like X on the Wii U?
The way I see it, Bayonetta 2 and SSBU belong to genres that at least have a chance of appealing to that crowd. X, on the other hand, is a JRPG. That, plus the fact that it doesn't have Final Fantasy or Tales of in its name is almost a surefire way to make sure nobody gives a shit about it, unfortunately.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I don't necessarily think it is likely, but I do think it would be foolish to waste this opportunity with the normal IP stable. X is something different. X could surprise the VGX crowd, and that is something Mario and Zelda wouldn't really achieve. Mario, Smash and Zelda is expected Nintendo fare. Nintendo showing off a title that goes against the Nintendo stereotypes is the kind of thing they need to do to change perceptions.
At the very least they need to market the game before giving up on it.
But that's a fairly old quote, isn't it?
Because that way they can make it more popular.
There is a complete demographic clash there. It's like Miley Cyrus opening for a Cradle of Filth concert.
Peter Bazooka
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I believe it.
Shikamaru Ninja
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I think you underestimate the sheer amount of former Nintendo fans who don't buy Nintendo consoles anymore. Over 7 million gamers bought The Ocarina of Time, and over 3 million gamers purchased Star Fox 64. This was in the late 1990s. A long time has passed between the passionate N64 userbase and the Wii / Wii U.
StreetsAhead
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It is from 2010. Point being, Sakurai (and Nintendo in general) often say stuff in public and then do the opposite. See 3DS XL, 2DS, Retro doing DK.
I don't see the evidence for this.
If anything, Nintendo's "very own audience" pestered them until they released their last game, and then when they got a limited release, exceeded Nintendo's sales expectations and gave GameStop the motivation to gouge customers for hard to find used copies. Since then X has been one of the Wii U's most talked about upcoming games - I'd argue much moreso than Bayonetta 2.
Still, you're right, it's appeal does not coexist with the VGA's. It's Zelda or a new Smash trailer.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
There is a complete demographic clash there. It's like Miley Cyrus opening for a Cradle of Filth concert.
Almost every Nintendo IP will clash The event itself isn't really tailored for the types of games Nintendo typically produces. Which is why I think it would be best for Nintendo to show something expected and then show something unexpected. Like maybe Smash and Bayonetta or Smash and X.
X, Smash, and Mario Kart would all be smart choices.
Mario Kart and Smash cater to the college dorm crowd that is the core demographic of Spike programming. If 3D World is enough to tempt people, then knowing these are on the horizon might seal the deal.
X looks impressive enough to pass as a next-gen title to casual onlookers. Excellent sense of scale, and has that fresh JRPG feel that seems a bit rare these days. It could turn some heads and show Nintendo's not a one-trick pony, while raising awareness for the game so it doesn't stumble out of the gate.
Really, it's not often Nintendo gets to stream to a multiplatform audience. Might as well go out with the exposure.
Mario Kart and Smash cater to the college dorm crowd that is the core demographic of Spike programming. If 3D World is enough to tempt people, then knowing these are on the horizon might seal the deal.
X looks impressive enough to pass as a next-gen title to casual onlookers. Excellent sense of scale, and has that fresh JRPG feel that seems a bit rare these days. It could turn some heads and show Nintendo's not a one-trick pony, while raising awareness for the game so it doesn't stumble out of the gate.
Really, it's not often Nintendo gets to stream to a multiplatform audience. Might as well go out with the exposure.
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Otakumegane
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Mario had low sales numbers. No amount of awareness could save this game which makes me as scared as hell for the next game.
gamergirly
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We only have 3D World #s for UK(where Nintendo has never been prominent in recent years outside of the Wii) and Japan(where 3D Mario games have never had high initial sales). North America is the test. If 3D World only sells something like 50K here, yeah it's time to be really concerned lol
ShineALight
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There is a complete demographic clash there. It's like Miley Cyrus opening for a Cradle of Filth concert.
Why is X being talked about like it's a NIS game or something? I don't think it has to remain a niche game just because it has JRPG blood. Part of the reason Xenoblade was so revered was how well it mixed WRPG and JRPG design, and the (rumored) additions of co-op, along with gunplay, mechs, HD graphics, etc., to X strike me as reasons Nintendo should start attempting to market it to a wider audience, including those that watch Spike/VGAs. That audience responds to games like the Witcher, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, etc.
By no means do I expect it to match the popularity of even the first two series mentioned there, and the fact that they're all western-developed isn't lost upon me, just that people that played and enjoyed those games is the kind of audience Nintendo should be selling X to. It strikes me as one of the most adult-oriented, ambitious Wii U games Nintendo has in development, and it'd be a missed opportunity if didn't try and sell it to those outside of their existing fanbase.
Not that I necessarily think they will show it at VGX, though. And admittedly, mechs are debatable in terms of western appeal. Just a lot of people have been waiting for something different from Nintendo, and X is different for them, they should capitalize on it and push it as hard as possible.
See, the problem there is that the O.R. folks are a very loud group, but by no absolute or relative measure are they a substantial one. I haven't seen any data that says Xenoblade sold a considerable amount (though, I'd love to be proven wrong).
I see it all the time. Once again, X is talked about by a very vocal minority. But where everyone else is concerned, be it Nintendo enthusiasts or the general gaming press, the likes of Smash and Mario are always at the forefront of the spotlight, with X being lucky to even get so much as a token mention. I dunno, I just don't think the audience is there in any substantial capacity for this game.
It's true that most of Nintendo's IPs don't jive with that crowd, but like I said, I think Bayonetta 2 and Smash would be the least off-putting.
Well, considering the state of the contemporary overseas JRPG market, I have little reason to doubt that the simple virtue of being a JRPG is enough to cripple its appeal. Maybe I'm being a bit too pessimistic about its sales potential, but I'm very sure when I say that X has no business being exhibited at a Spike event; I just don't think anyone's going to care.
TheXfactor
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when is he doing the interview for the black friday weekend sales numbers
If smash is announced, the audience will honestly quadruple in an instant once they see the glory of smash.
Magic Mushroom
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Didn't it sell 2 million copies?
TheLink117
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Reggie can walk on stage to introduce a Wii U 2014 sneak peak sizzle reel of games and finish it off with Zelda U. It'll never happen, but it'd be nice to show everyone how steady the 2014 lineup is becoming.
After heavy discounts, yes.
Mentallyerect
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I think Metroid is a shoe in for the VGX crowd above all other franchises Nintendo can pull out. Its a first person adventure and Retro did wonders with the graphics on the Cube and Wii. I can only imagine what Retro can do with the Metroid atmosphere on the WiiU. Their artistry will help bridge the gap (disguise it) between the WiiU and the new kids on the block.
Outside of that, I'll also go with X in that, IMO, it looks good enough that it'll turn heads with the dudebro gamers. IMO, I think the audience for these shows just want to be wowed above all else. Most trailers revealed in past VGA's never even showed gameplay so its obvious people are just looking for hype. Given we have seen so much of X, I believe it is the most far along in development to where we can finally get an "official" trailer. An official trailer dedicated to the main character and overall story or theme of the game along with its true title and release date. Its about time, we've already received two lengthy teasers made of complete gameplay.
All in all though, this is Nintendo, so you need to expect anything. Nintendo never does the obvious so we can expect anything from a reminder that Mario 3d World has released and that we should go out and buy it, to a full blown Zelda/X/Metroid reveal.
I think we need to throw up a poll question for this thread or a new one to see how close we are with our assumptions lol.
Outside of that, I'll also go with X in that, IMO, it looks good enough that it'll turn heads with the dudebro gamers. IMO, I think the audience for these shows just want to be wowed above all else. Most trailers revealed in past VGA's never even showed gameplay so its obvious people are just looking for hype. Given we have seen so much of X, I believe it is the most far along in development to where we can finally get an "official" trailer. An official trailer dedicated to the main character and overall story or theme of the game along with its true title and release date. Its about time, we've already received two lengthy teasers made of complete gameplay.
All in all though, this is Nintendo, so you need to expect anything. Nintendo never does the obvious so we can expect anything from a reminder that Mario 3d World has released and that we should go out and buy it, to a full blown Zelda/X/Metroid reveal.
I think we need to throw up a poll question for this thread or a new one to see how close we are with our assumptions lol.
I remember reading that by the end of March 2010, it sold, like, ~1.30 million copies or something. (which, I'm sure, is a hell of a lot more than what Xenoblade sold).
ArchedThunder
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Xenoblade had massive interest, Nintendo just didn't print many copies. From what I can tell Xenoblade sold just under 1 million copies with 50% of those being in North America.
Also 3 million people pirated it...
StreetsAhead
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Metroid: Another M (3DS), the 2.5D sequel to 2010's smash hit will be launching Fall 2014, developed by SPD & TOSE.
Is there concrete data to back that up? Or is that based on extrapolation? The only concrete numbers I've seen are of its Japanese LTD.
HeisenbergLannister
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Kid Icarus Uprising HD
Luigi's Mansion Dark moon HD
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 HD
Xenoblade HD
bayonetta WiiU
Metroid Prime 4
F-Zero GX HD
Earthbound HD
DuckHunt HD digital
Super Metroid sequel 3DS
Majora's Mask 3D
Earthbound 3D
BeLIEve!!!
Luigi's Mansion Dark moon HD
Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 HD
Xenoblade HD
bayonetta WiiU
Metroid Prime 4
F-Zero GX HD
Earthbound HD
DuckHunt HD digital
Super Metroid sequel 3DS
Majora's Mask 3D
Earthbound 3D
BeLIEve!!!
foxuzamaki
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most likely extrapolation but when I was reading up on sales for this like a year ago, it sold well in japan something like atleast 200,000, and I think it reached atleast 200,000 in europe, and I think all and all, the U.S version possibly sold the most. and even from "used"sales gamestop probably tells nintendo it has alot of interest and good will.
0_0 what, so Xenoblade is a certified million+ seller IP for Nintendo?
I know it did well all things considered but i didn't think it gathered that much interest.
ArchedThunder
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Well it didn't sell over 1 million, but was pretty close, BUT well over 1 million people played it.
Once again, I'd like to see the numbers, if possible.
According to Famitsu, as of 20/12/10, the game sold 141,059 units (in Japan). Any other numbers I can find are sourced from FakeChartz.
ArchedThunder
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No numbers for sales, just shipments.
Otakumegane
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I totally agree with you on both counts. Mac would be perfect for the occasion and I've been mostly a 360 guy this gen but there are a few Nintendo titles that keep me close to the company like pokemon, fire emblem, wario land,and smash definitely.
Edit: and zelda on the occassion. I don't know how I. Forgot that one.
Crimsonlink
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I hope for Nintendo's sake they drop a Zelda U bomb and mention early 2014 with a nice trailer ready to go. They literally need to bring out games one after the other like PS4 will do when it hits early Spring.
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