3 White college students file racial discrimination complaint against professor
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ThisWreckage
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This country is so ridiculous to me. Everyone is constantly offended and everyone is constantly threatening to sue.
I'm also not sympathetic toward the instructor. The complaints about her being put on the spot ring hollow. If she is truly a professional and knows her material she could have handled herself. Put on the spot? Right.
I'm also not sympathetic toward the instructor. The complaints about her being put on the spot ring hollow. If she is truly a professional and knows her material she could have handled herself. Put on the spot? Right.
Atraveller
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A couple? You mean a bunch?
Only one in this thread so far. Apparently is wrong to be offended about being reprimanded by school officials just because a couple of freshmen got hurt while talking about a real topic.
Reprimand due stating facts= Apparently okay.
Suing because of the unjust nature of it= OMG So ridiculous im offended at this country going to the shitter thanks to the PC police.
ThisWreckage
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It's not that simple. We don't know if the professor was devoting unrealistic amounts of class time to this topic or harping on about it. If that's the case then that creates a very unstable classroom environment and she should have been reprimanded. When I was in university, two professors were suspended for sexist and racist behavior in their classrooms. A lot of people use teaching as a platform to push their prejudice.
If the students were felt like they were unfairly being targeted or singled out they had every right to complain.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The truth is that these are struggles.
You might hope that those in the dominant position in race and gender struggles would just roll over and accept certain liberal academic theories... But the natural inclination when being labelled as the obstacle is to react against the accuser...
Just going off the thread title, I'm reminded of the blue eye vs brown eye experiment. I wonder how close this situation is to that.
Yep, it's absolutely the same thing. It's amazing how uncomfortable they get with such limited exposure.
Blue Eye vs Brown experiment for those who don't know
Yep, it's absolutely the same thing. It's amazing how uncomfortable they get with such limited exposure.
Blue Eye vs Brown experiment for those who don't know
The Culture Vulture
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http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/...at_for_structural_racism_comments_in_2009.php
A little more insight from a previous instance.
A little more insight from a previous instance.
Aquamarine
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Hundreds...of years...of systematic racism. Casual racism still persists today. White privilege is a real thing.
But she's out of line for saying white men are the cause of this?
Or it could be that an Intro to Mass Communications class basic theory might involve a lot of lessons on how mass communication shapes media and how structural racism is involved in the creation, proliferation and current operation of the mass communication systems we have today?
I'm not discounting that your theory could be correct, but given the topic and what they're studying, it's like complaining about being made to learn about how sexist white males were when studying anti-discrimination law.
ThisWreckage
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Yeah, this is all I needed to read and I was completely right all along. Sounds like she's a racist and has a tremendous chip on her shoulder.
ElbowRocket
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I'm white and proud of it, or is that wrong?
curlyfriski
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Sounds like you were looking for anything to validate your opinion and jumped on the first chance you got. We know next to nothing about the situation in that article.
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Man, um, uh. Asdgnhgbjjmmkkll
this makes me uncomfortable lol
Why are you proud?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I actually wonder if some of the white people who react strongest against this are those who have been raised liberal, and are generally "part of the solution".
Even if the trends of white power were set long ago, and certainly persist to this day, I can see how it would be near-infuriating, being a ~20 year old white liberal student who never did any harm, and being told that whites were the source of certain societal ills.
Even if the trends of white power were set long ago, and certainly persist to this day, I can see how it would be near-infuriating, being a ~20 year old white liberal student who never did any harm, and being told that whites were the source of certain societal ills.
They should have left their 'Rush Limbaugh' issued purple hearts for 'the war on white men' at home. If it was a white teacher, a white male teacher, do you suppose they would have all three gotten up and challenged him during class? When she means put on the spot, I assume she means, to get over the shock to not reduce them to rubble and also flunk them on the spot. Or how to not say something to them that will affect her professionally. Because staging a mini-revolt in class might seem like a good idea in someone's Objectivist Harry Potter fanfiction, but I would have told all three of them to see me after class.
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You don't really get to assume that she was "harping" on anything. You do get to assume that she was following a syllabus or a legitimate class curriculum that has nothing to do with her pushing potential 'prejudices' about the status quo in America in her Communications course. That is an old favorite of some, that liberal propaganda targeting whites over the sins of history and racism all comes from colleges and universities. Of course for some, to mention racism even once is to mention it one time too many.
curlyfriski
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What specifically makes you proud of your whiteness?
I once took a class about Race, Ethnicity, and Social Control by a vary well respected criminologist and there was this one white dude who constantly interrupted and acted very defensive about everything. Any study that painted whites in a negative light was clearly biased in some form or another. At one point he tried to argue that all things being equal, women and minorities have a better chance of being hired than white men. A black woman, according to him, had the most career opportunities.
I really wonder what kind of bubble some of these kids live in. Grow the fuck up. No one hates you or blames you for anything.
I really wonder what kind of bubble some of these kids live in. Grow the fuck up. No one hates you or blames you for anything.
ThisWreckage
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If you want to reverse the races in this situation then let's do that. The truth of the matter is that if the races were reversed, like you proposed, she wouldn't even be working right now. She would have been fired for being a bigot a long time ago. She seems like she's already damaged herself professionally given this situation and past issues as well.
I, too, am white.
20cent
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Following this logic, then being proud to be black is questionable too?
Vermillion
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Eh. Enjoy it, I guess. My full thought process below:
I was going to start by saying that the reason minority races are proud of their skin color is part of a way of standing up against racism and embracing the culture that the came from as well as what their ancestors have done to get them so far. Then I was thinking, "why would a white person have pride coming from their race?" Then I thought "well maybe in all of this, they just want to be proud to be themselves." Y'know, like I "I'm proud to be me sort of thing." And then I decided, fuck it - why not let him be proud to be white? In the end, there's a lot of history there that doesn't necessarily deal with racism (directly). And really, he could also be proud of strides made by his ancestors to help stand against racism as well. Who knows? It's nothing directly harmful either way.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
I had an English teacher who was blatantly sexists, called her out on it one day. Got moved to a different class.
Yes.
Hot Coldman
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the ideal attitude is not giving a fuck about the colour of your skin and just getting on with life
oh my this is hilarious
no as white people aren't an oppressed minority
So whites have been made to feel like second class citizens for decades?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pride
ThisWreckage
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Someone can't have pride if they're not being oppressed? What a load of shit.
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/...dents_during_structural_racism_discussion.php
Singling out your students to make an example of them? That is the true definition of being put on the spot.
ElbowRocket
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As a race we have accomplished a lot and its not that I feel entitlement of any kind its just my heritage and who I am.
But the world is a cruel place and anyone will stab you in the back so none of these petty race arguments really matter its all just sensationalism.
Yep, it's too early for this shit.
Devolution
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curlyfriski
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All I want to know is what part of being white he's proud of.
Oh nvm he responded.
It's hard to have much opinion on this based on the information provided. I have certainly had instructors that fixated on race when it was not meant to be the focus of the class. One macro economics instructor went on and on about why terms like black market or blackmail were racist and spent about half a class on those two terms, which seemed quite excessive.
On the other hand I have seen many white students who resist talking about racial issues at all as they feel way too defensive.
On the other hand I have seen many white students who resist talking about racial issues at all as they feel way too defensive.
Uncle Rupee
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Holy shit that guy can't even spell properly and he got an English degree somehow.
White people are pretty cool I guess, but those words used together in that sentence just make my skin crawl. Not because of what they say but because of who says them.
"and why do they get a whole HISTORY MONTH and ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL, huh?!??"
Well you had a good start, but this...
Go ahead and be proud of your heritage but don't try to fucking brush this shit off, because not everybody has that liberty
Supermanisdead
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pride movements are reactions to years of systematic belittlement and oppression. there's no reason for white pride because there's never been white oppression in america.
cue white gaffer saying he was oppressed when he went to a school with 60% black population.
Your privilege is showing.
Sometimes it ain't what you say, it's how you say it.
Oh I don't know. It's working out pretty well for me.
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