PandaPedinte
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I guess they're going to put the download up when they update the store in 40 mimutes.
Valve announces SteamOS
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I guess they're going to put the download up when they update the store in 40 mimutes.
SpamBuster
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nice try windows PR guy
Upgrades can work but, I normally don't put a lot of trust in them. I've seen plenty of kernels get messed up in upgrades.
Pops Maellard
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Really curious about this, but still debating whether or not it's worth the trouble of partitioning and the like. I don't have any hardware that I can turn into a dedicated SteamOS machine at the moment unfortunately, but I'd love to check it out.
My serious Linux hacking days were a decade ago, but I think I might jump in again. I figure Valve might need contributors.
You never have to reinstall Linux unless your hard disk dies and you don't have a backup. Linux is designed for rolling releases, every component can be updated independently (obviously, because they're all developed independently by different groups). You simply let the package manager do its job.
I think I'm gonna try and dual boot this. I say try because it's been a long time since I've tried dual booting and OS.
I hope its a easy way to get used to linux. I've wanted to mess around with it for awhile but I'm too lazy to give it the effort it needs. Maybe I'll do it anyway.
I hope its a easy way to get used to linux. I've wanted to mess around with it for awhile but I'm too lazy to give it the effort it needs. Maybe I'll do it anyway.
Interfectum
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I believe Valve is going to announce a bunch of stuff at CES about AAA devs supporting Linux/SteamOS.
I've already converted my PC to a steambox so to speak. The explorer shell is now steam.exe with big picture enabled at startup. Thanks to the SSD, I don't see a desktop. Feels like a console.
Of course I'd love to move full time to Linux, but my currently played games don't have Linux versions.
Valve needs to incentivize it.
Of course I'd love to move full time to Linux, but my currently played games don't have Linux versions.
Valve needs to incentivize it.
TouchMyBox
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There is no reason why upgrades shouldn't be painless.
MutonCommander
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I'm worried that Microsoft is going to fight it. It won't be easy for Valve to gather support.
Dreams-Visions
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Ready for triple booting here.
angular graphics
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Fight it how?
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How fast from switch on to Big Picture?
SteveWinwood
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Only On Windows tm
Counting post? 12-14 seconds
If I turn post to quick diagnostics then around 9-10 seconds
angular graphics
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Metro: Last Light on Linux is not an accurate "translation" of the Windows version so there's no point.
If one wants to test this out, test with Valve's games perhaps.
Its great for the platform (PC gaming I mean) in general to not have to rely on one platform holder. You don't want to build a business that lives or dies on the success of a product you have no control over.
ashecitism
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Last Light only has a single slider as graphic setting, so I wouldn't use it for any comparisons :lol
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That's very good. It's a pity we (as PC gamers) have to put up with PC bios post messages. It would be nicer if we could install a custom bios that allowed a nice boot screen.
MutonCommander
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By pressuring publishers to not go through with Linux ports.
I hate the fact you have mentioned this, it would be a travesty if they tried to "reinvest" in PC gaming by throwing money at developers to not release on steamOS.
glimmerman
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Personally I'm going to install it under a VM to see what its like. I'm interested in testing streaming more than directly playing linux compatible games on it.
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In a ideal world, this should allow 99% of the machines resources; memory, GPU, CPU to be used by the game. Unlike Windows which is constantly sucking up memory and CPU cycles. So yes. If the drivers are properly optimised, the game should run quicker and smoother.
TouchMyBox
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I can see the field day the EU would have with that one.
That said, Microsoft didn't cock-block the linux release of Mark of the Ninja, so they've been cool about it thus far.
Mine allows that actually. I'm just lazy.
Mutanthands
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Just have to get a new hard drive and GTX 660 FTW for the used Alienware x51 I bought specifically as a dedicated Steam Machine platform, and I should be good to go. 84 of my games are currently available on Linux, so I should have a good selection of games to choose from.
I love this stuff.
I love this stuff.
MutonCommander
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I doubt it will be possible for this early version but I hope I'm wrong.
I think if anything that would be a good thing. From a business stand point, it has to be something Valve have considered and given a lot of thought. From Microsoft's point of view, I don't know what they could do from an OS stand point other than launch a Steam competitor, which any sane PC gamer would avoid after the treatment of GFWL. Then again, it may actually be good for Windows; more people get into PC gaming and get Windows for the back catalogue.
From a Steam Machine vs Xbox One perspective, thats a whole lot more interesting. Its more of a battle of philosophies. I'd guess that Xbox exclusives will play a key role but overtime SteamOS is likely to be able to differentiate itself through mods etc
SteamOS support could be interesting too. Anna Sweet has mentioned that talks began 3 years ago, so there may be a lot that hasn't been said. The original SteamOS reveal mentioned AAA titles being announced "over the coming weeks" but it never happened.
Although in the recent Steam Machine Beta Shipment post, they said that more will be revealed at CES on January 6th. The CES event is actually through the 7th to 10th, whilst only the major manufacturers/tech companies are around on the 6th to give keynote speeches. They already mentioned game reveals happening at CES along with the reveal of the partners, so that is probably the ideal time to reveal any "AAA" games on the way as originally stipulated
Oh wow thats a pile of shit!!
Pops Maellard
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ashecitism
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That's Windows version, I ment the Linux version.
I don't know, isn't that game full of DX specific features? Kinda hard putting them to OGL, I guess.
I don't know, isn't that game full of DX specific features? Kinda hard putting them to OGL, I guess.
TouchMyBox
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Did they just patch that?
It wasn't like that 2 weeks ago, but I did notice some changes happening to the game in the last few days in the steam registry.
Ah sweet. I thought it would be a bit silly to highlight the game for steamOS if it was so restrictive
MutonCommander
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So you think Valve might have held off on announcing game support in order to make a bigger splash at CES? I hope so, I really want SteamOS to be a success and game support is the biggest hurdle. The best way for Valve to convince everyone that it means business is by announcing some huge games for SteamOS like, say, GTAV.
I kinda doubt VMs can access the GPU's hardware video encoder streaming most likely relies on.
ashecitism
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Isn't tesselation DX only? I'm pretty sure someone recently while mentioning LL said that Linux version still has single slider.
Pops Maellard
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Linux version may indeed still have a single slider, although I wasn't aware of that previously. Thought it also had the SSAA and antistropic filtering settings.
Are you talking about the game in particular or about tessellation in general? Because OpenGL supports tessellation, of course.
Iced_Eagle
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Is this the Linux version or the Windows version?
The Windows version has all of the sliders, while the Linux version only has a single Video Quality slider (controls everything, including AA), same with the Mac version. Unless they patched it to add the options.
I really wouldn't be surprised. The current main problem for steamOS is support and whilst that gets settled on the partner side for sure at CES, games are likely as well, although it's only the Verge that got that info, and they seem to get the info for everything Valve related first ever since last year.
I recall this time last year valve were completely tight lipped about everything, then at CES, one of the guys from the Verge bumped into Gabe as he left a toilet, asked about an interview and Gabe just went completely off the hook with details. I'd guess they similarly want to kick off the year with a bang.
Games wise, perhaps its wishful thinking, but there are a number of games that have just mysteriously been quiet about PC support in general. I'd imagine, in order to appeal to both PC gamers and Console guys, they will need a roster that is a bit more diverse than what we typically see with PC gaming. Metal Gear Solid Revengance is one that really comes to mind as they said a PC version was on the way and even put out photos, but then have gone quiet. GTAV.... maybe. Something like Watch Dogs that is on every other platform...... even though I have no idea how they could even do it, that would turn heads, which is exactly what Valve need to do.
If the SteamOS version isn't updated, you have to ask some serious questions about what's going on. You'd figure these games are amongst a few that are meant to set an example of what to expect.
VirtualBox has an option to enable 2D video acceleration that uses the host machine's hardware. So it could work I think.
MutonCommander
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LOL, did this actually happen?
You'll have to search for it, but there is a Vergecast video podcast thing from either the same day or that week. They are in absolute hysterics about it and seemed blown away that he even spoke to them
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