Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments
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Master Hand takes clear inspiration from Wham Bam Rock of Kirby Supers Star, another game Sakurai directed.
So Master Face would be a horribly racist caricature?
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Agreed. Jiggs has loads to offer in her fighting style (walling is a freaking blast). Sakurai has always loved Jiggs, too, since he considers it the "joke character of Smash Bros.". He needs to give more ummmph back to her rest, though; that thing is a risky joke in Brawl, whereas it was a risky trump card in Melee.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I'm fine with jiggs staying, but if another pokemon character were going to be cut due to there being too many pokemon, I would cast my vote for kicking out Jigglypuff and giving the slot to like... anyone else. I feel like Jigglypuff stays in because Jigglypuff always has, not because the character is actually important or anyone's favorite.
Master Hand takes clear inspiration from Wham Bam Rock of Kirby Supers Star, another game Sakurai directed.
Oh Japan.
He's less kind of racist in the new one
and has a brother
It has to be wigglytuff.
Everytime one is in the anime, its always on some gangasta shit.
I am gonna respectfully dissagree.
I think it could fit plenty of story.
I also can tell you universes collide is not a comic specific thing really, in many mediums universes colliding has offered interesting narrative.
I am waiting on a 2.5 installment of RPG series who's entire plot is kind of that
On massive scale of worlds where worlds can hold bunches and bunches of people, that seems all types of dumb.\
But you know what, its differeces of opnion, its a subjective matter and we should probobly drop it at this point.
I'm just gonna be like
" the hand this is turrble , dont space battles you fiends"
and you are gonna be like
"toys and using your imagination are great, weren't you a child you despicable robot man "
So lets just leave it here.
Question though.
If you could pick a stage for smash U and or 3ds what would it be, why would you want it , and what would it do .
and has a brother
It has to be wigglytuff.
Everytime one is in the anime, its always on some gangasta shit.
I am gonna respectfully dissagree.
I think it could fit plenty of story.
I also can tell you universes collide is not a comic specific thing really, in many mediums universes colliding has offered interesting narrative.
I am waiting on a 2.5 installment of RPG series who's entire plot is kind of that
As a jumbled up bunch of levels sure.
On massive scale of worlds where worlds can hold bunches and bunches of people, that seems all types of dumb.\
But you know what, its differeces of opnion, its a subjective matter and we should probobly drop it at this point.
I'm just gonna be like
" the hand this is turrble , dont space battles you fiends"
and you are gonna be like
"toys and using your imagination are great, weren't you a child you despicable robot man "
So lets just leave it here.
Question though.
If you could pick a stage for smash U and or 3ds what would it be, why would you want it , and what would it do .
Village, you need to stop using your imagination to think people are insulting you. I simply addressed the point that SSE mundane generic world used to unify all the characters wasn't down to them being toys/trophies and gave an example of when the game didn't even care to unify the characters.
In fact SSE actually had a subplot mixing up worlds, the infamous great labyrinth was all the previous levels jumbled together. They could have used the explanation for that level as a reason for all the Nintendo worlds colliding together.
So imagination vs colliding universes, toys vs the real characters. Doesn't really matter, both are better than what SSE gave us. It was a bad story with bad execution. So bad in fact it need a Dojo entry to explain how of what was going on.
So I leave you with this tangent of a thought, if Master Hand is meant to be the child playing with his toys, who is Tabuu? The child's mother with a vacuum cleaner?
In fact Tetris 1.0 of the GameBoy version used a different tune for Type A so in an alternative timeline no one would know what korobeiniki is.
In fact SSE actually had a subplot mixing up worlds, the infamous great labyrinth was all the previous levels jumbled together. They could have used the explanation for that level as a reason for all the Nintendo worlds colliding together.
So imagination vs colliding universes, toys vs the real characters. Doesn't really matter, both are better than what SSE gave us. It was a bad story with bad execution. So bad in fact it need a Dojo entry to explain how of what was going on.
So I leave you with this tangent of a thought, if Master Hand is meant to be the child playing with his toys, who is Tabuu? The child's mother with a vacuum cleaner?
Well "Type A" and "Type B" are not copyrighted names as any puzzle game under the sun tends to call their music that and the music itself is public domain. Nintendo doesn't need permission to use them even if is the association is obvious. However making a stage based on Tetris would require permission from the Tetris Company.
In fact Tetris 1.0 of the GameBoy version used a different tune for Type A so in an alternative timeline no one would know what korobeiniki is.
BassForever
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All this talk of cutting Jiggly for any other poke is just blasphemy
IntelliHeath
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If you meant 50 characters slots, I'm fine with that. Either way, I would rather to let Sakurai to complete the game on his own term because I know Sakurai could make both games as amazing as it can be. I don't care how long it would take him to. However the contract with Namco-Bandai might contain the limitation of schedule and dates for the game have to be done by then.
Also best part about new Super Smash Bros is hypeness and speculations then we finally got the games in our hands.
Only reason I didn't include that was because there could be Mr Popo levels of butthurt due to his design
Wow, that's a lot of hands, lol.
But you forgot one:
Seems that I missed a few actually
OrangeGrayBlue
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Why?
It'd be cutting a unique (and in the right environment, powerful) playstyle that wouldn't translate well to anything else, and a staple cast member since the beginning. It's like removing Luigi from a Mario game.
Green Mamba
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Yeah, I consider Jigglypuff to be a "Smash Bros." character, in the sense that its representation in Smash Bros. has taken on a life of its own, like Captain Falcon, Fox, and Marth. Dropping Jigglypuff for any reason is not acceptable as far as I'm concerned.
Down-B Tetra would make it all so worth it.
Moon Blast as the final smash? Yeahhh I'm down for that.
Like all 3D Mario games before Galaxy? (not counting 64 DS)
Unless Phantom is an assist trophy, I see a Toon Zelda reveal as being likely.
I gotta be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing Jigglypuff replaced for a different Pokémon. It just seems like a really random choice of Pokémon. I don't think it's going to happen though.
What was the initial reason for her inclusion? Anime popularity? I'd think Meowth was a better choice in that case.
What was the initial reason for her inclusion? Anime popularity? I'd think Meowth was a better choice in that case.
Yeah, I think that was it. As much as I'd love having a playable Meowth, the time for that has long passed, I think. It would have been great, though!
Now is the time for playable Sylveon. Believe.
Every game has a WTF character.
64 had Jigglypuff. Melee had Mr. Game & Watch. Brawl had ROB. SSB4 has Wii Fit Trainer.
Jigglypuff was probably added because Sakurai likes pink balls.
Do you not want qq to play the game? He won't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
Wasen't Jigglypuff insanely popular in Japan (around Smash 64 atleast)?
Jiggs is my main, and I will riot if the little guy is taken out.
Neoriceisgood
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Mario?
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Don't even like Jiggs either, but I've accepted that's its never getting cut.
Doubt anyone else is.
Mr. Popo what are you doing here?
Doubt anyone else is.
Master Hand takes clear inspiration from Wham Bam Rock of Kirby Supers Star, another game Sakurai directed.
Mr. Popo what are you doing here?
I had an issue with it then too.
IntelliHeath
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Jigglypuff shouldn't get cut at all since she is so much fun to play as.
You could make the thread if you like to.
You could make the thread if you like to.
Agreed.
ALBW Link on the other hand...
Oh and Jigglypuff can go too if she's going to be as awful as she was in Brawl with nearly all her specials being useless.
El Pescado
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Before they confirmed Toon Link I was hoping that A Link Between Worlds Link would make it in in his place.
I'd really like to see Hilda and Ravio make it in...
For Ravio (ALBW spoilers!)
I'd love to see him at the very least as an alternate costume for Toon Link as unlikely as that is. Definitely one of my favorite supporting characters in Zelda in recent memory.
Chezzymann
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Noooooooooooo! I hate touch screen controlls. Expecially in fighting games.
Brawl had 18 newcomers. I doubt we're going to approach that number this time, but of course there are going to be more than 4.So how many newcomers do we have?
Rosalina
Megaman
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
So that's 4...
I hope we get more.
IntelliHeath
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So how many newcomers do we have?
Rosalina
Megaman
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
So that's 4...
I hope we get more.
I'm pretty sure that we will get more newcomers. I really hope that they would save a lot of newcomers for unlockable.
theprodigy
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So how many newcomers do we have?
Rosalina
Megaman
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
So that's 4...
I hope we get more.
Smash 4 to have 4 newcomers
*cue meltdowns*
spyroflame0487
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So how many newcomers do we have?
Rosalina
Megaman
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
So that's 4...
I hope we get more.
there was a rumor a while back which listed 6 characters, and i believe that those 4 were part of the 6. The last remaining ones were Pac Man and Little Mac.
i can't remember where i saw it from though.
lol no, Rosalina wasn't on that list.