Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments

A roster maker, huh?

Time for something HIGHLY UNREASONABLE:

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(in my dream scenario Ganondorf has a new moveset and Blood Falcon inherits the old one)

I have a serious feeling that Snake will not be here =(

He was only add because kojima asked once ... I doubt they will go all the trouble with him again just for Kojima's son =P
 
I'm on Team Toon Zelda, but on the selection screen they should put Tetra as the default.



I would definitely do an ID swap when someone sets it up. I remember in the New Leaf thread there was a spreadsheet with everyone's IDs. I just wish there wasn't a limit of 100 on both systems.

In the IRC we play Brawl and Project Melee online on most weekends as well.

That's why I would add people's NNID that I know who they are and I will make sure that they will play for long time before ditching SSB4.

Yeah, he's right about IRC. You can ask for some matches during weekdays or weekend depend on your schedules.
 
He was only add because kojima asked once ... I doubt they will go all the trouble with him again just for Kojima's son =P

That may have been the catalyst, but they did it because neither company lost anything from it and just gained extra publicity/word of mouth. SSBB even had content from MGS4 to promote it.

I'm kind of indifferent on his return anyway, but I don't think he's out of contention. He ended up not being in PSASBR after all.
 
I have a serious feeling that Snake will not be here =(

He was only add because kojima asked once ... I doubt they will go all the trouble with him again just for Kojima's son =P
IIRC he begged Sakurai to put Snake in Melee, but it was too late.

GCN ended up getting MGS Twin Snakes. Snake isn't entirely irrelevent to Nintendo history. :P

I wish Wii U could get a Twin Snakes reprint + HD Collection!
 
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This is my prediction rooster if sakurai is feeling generous.

Most notable is Zelda alone, Impa as the new sheik, Ike substituted by Chrom and Lucario substituted by Mawile and Snake is substituted with Pacman

Both fire emblem and pokemon had a history of representatives getting cut in favor of newer games, so Chrom and Mawile (who is part fairy and has a mega evolution) fits better.

I was between Mawile and Gardevoir, but Mawile looks he could fit better in a fighting game.

I doubt I will get the newcomer right, but missing Sukapon is a bigger omision than Little Mac since he is part of Nintendo first fighting game.

I ALMOST put Urban Champion dude there because of how Nintendo LOVES to put tha game everywhere but... =P

Mallo is there to represent downloudable games.

Takamaru because of Nintendo land obviously and Little Mac because why not ?
 
Someone else showed this picture, and I thought it was great, so I wanted to post it here.
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I love the characters' expressions. Though I won't notice them when playing matches, but taking screenshots and then posting them on Miiverse or GAF would be fun to do.

My personal favorite upgrade following Brawl (which was pretty dang good in this area, but doesn't touch this). :)

(in my dream scenario Ganondorf has a new moveset and Blood Falcon inherits the old one)

Iiiii dunno....I mean, Blood Falcon has the same body type as CF, so why inherit Ganny's heavy, slow stuff?
 
Does anyone else think that ZSS will be either cut or made into her own character? I feel like a lot of people thought that the transformation messed with Samus as a character.
 
Iiiii dunno....I mean, Blood Falcon has the same body type as CF, so why inherit Ganny's heavy, slow stuff?

Gotta be Black Shadow, heavy and slow is his forte.

But in reality we won't get another F-Zero character. :(

I think they should just change up Dorf but keep some of his good stuff like the chokegrab and meteor smash. Punch can easily go because nobody uses it, should be an energy ball that can be redirected and grows stronger/faster with each redirect. Imagine and improvised game of countering the energy ball back and forth in the middle of a match.
 
Does anyone else think that ZSS will be either cut or made into her own character? I feel like a lot of people thought that the transformation messed with Samus as a character.

If I had ANY input I would cut ZSS of metroid history.
It representes everything I hate about Metroid

But I doubt they will change it in smash =/
 
If I had ANY input I would cut ZSS of metroid history.
It representes everything I hate about Metroid

But I doubt they will change it in smash =/
Erm... Why do you hate ZSS? If anything, she embodies one of the greatest twists in all of gaming -- Samus is a girl! I think it's great they added ZSS to Brawl, since it helps establish the character better with mainstream audiences who might not know there's a girl under all that armor.
 
wow what the fuck, sorry for being late but i just looked back a few pages and noticed the drama

come on guys this is why ive been posting less and less here :(
 
Samus's armor is sexualized in Smash 4. People will know she is a girl.
 
If I had ANY input I would cut ZSS of metroid history.
It representes everything I hate about Metroid

But I doubt they will change it in smash =/

The concept of Samus wearing a suit that highlights her femininity underneath the power suit is as old as Metroid itself.

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You're free to dislike certain renditions of it, but it's as much Samus as her armor.
 
OK, social experiment time. You go in blind and this is your Smash For roster:

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Do you rike it?

Boring Mode: I also made a much more conservative one. Replace Mike with Mii and you pretty much have the idea of what I really expect when "Believe" doesn't come into play.

Apex is January 17-19, you might also see some fellow GAF members in Smash/FGC/Pokemon events

although there's probably footage of Armada playing P:M somewhere on youtube or twitch, too lazy to look for it though lol

Thanks.
 
The concept of Samus wearing a suit that highlights her femininity underneath the power suit is as old as Metroid itself.

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You're free to dislike certain renditions of it, but it's as much Samus as her armor.
Exactly. The way I see it, the inclusion of ZSS makes the overall Samus character "complete."

Now they just need to make Ridley playable.
 
Oh wow, I think I'll second Kjellson's thoughts on being responsible for the roster. How the hell did I put Wonder Red/W101 in over Shulk?
 
Here's my wish roster, arranged vertically in Mahvel format:

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And in written form, with breakdown for sub-characters and alternate models (I.E. male/female):

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At first I was honestly a little sad about no direct Skyward Sword looks for the Zelda crew but in all honesty, I can deal. As long as they get their movesets looked over with care that's more than good enough. Also if the Phantom is a hint at them taking more inspiration from the more current end of the series instead of sticking with the older Smash incarnations, I'm down.

Hopefully Ganondorf gets a lot of new toys to play with. Thunderstomp and Flame Choke can stay though, they're like way too good not to. I'm also kinda partial to Warlock Punch since it fits the whole "brutish magician" theme he's got going on, but I'd definitely be interested in seeing something like the tennis ball projectile someone suggested earlier in these last few pages.
 
At first I was honestly a little sad about no direct Skyward Sword looks for the Zelda crew but in all honesty, I can deal. As long as they get their movesets looked over with care that's more than good enough. Also if the Phantom is a hint at them taking more inspiration from the more current end of the series instead of sticking with the older Smash incarnations, I'm down.

Hopefully Ganondorf gets a lot of new toys to play with. Thunderstomp and Flame Choke can stay though, they're like way too good not to. I'm also kinda partial to Warlock Punch since it fits the whole "brutish magician" theme he's got going on, but I'd definitely be interested in seeing something like the tennis ball projectile someone suggested earlier in these last few pages.
Here's an idea for a way to keep all of Ganondorf's current moves while adding the tennis ball projectile:

- Tap B to start a Warlock Punch, and let the animation finish to execute the move. In other words, Warlock Punch remains the same.
- Tap B to start a Warlock Punch, but tap B again while the fist is charging to cancel the punch and hurl the tennis ball projectile instead.

Although this might "break" the move by allowing Ganondorf to punish with an energy ball those who try to hit him/elude him during the punch wind-up.
 
When was last year's January Direct? What day? End of the month?

Better question, was it preceded by a December Direct? I'm not one that thinks because it happened once so soon, another is out of the cards, but it's always good to work with past experience.
 
At first I was honestly a little sad about no direct Skyward Sword looks for the Zelda crew but in all honesty, I can deal. As long as they get their movesets looked over with care that's more than good enough. Also if the Phantom is a hint at them taking more inspiration from the more current end of the series instead of sticking with the older Smash incarnations, I'm down.

Hopefully Ganondorf gets a lot of new toys to play with. Thunderstomp and Flame Choke can stay though, they're like way too good not to. I'm also kinda partial to Warlock Punch since it fits the whole "brutish magician" theme he's got going on, but I'd definitely be interested in seeing something like the tennis ball projectile someone suggested earlier in these last few pages.
If they went with Impa that may be a way to help better represent SS. As for the other part, I don't see it as representing new games over old ones when the majority of the older moves poorly represented the character.

As for Ganondorf I've always thought a transformation into Ganon wielding his trident. His trident could launch powerful energy balls that players could hit back at him if given time. His trident would make a good item as well which would allow the same thing.
 
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