I hope they change DK's ultra into a boss finisher like in tropical freeze
Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments
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I hope they change DK's ultra into a boss finisher like in tropical freeze
TheLegendOfCap
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Yeah.. I thought that might have happened with some people D:
I actually REALLY, REALLY want Chibi-Robo. The little guy is in my Top 5. Hahah
I just don't think Bayonetta fits at all, IMO : Plus I think Wonderful 101 fits in perfectly, and Platinum really does deserve a spot.
Nothing really wrong with Goroh, its just that I personally think F-Zero is fine the way it is represented, but if I had to choose a newcomer for them it'd be Black Shadow. Haha
And I'd prefer Takamaru as well!
I would love to see him in this game so much. Best Zelda villain, possibly ever, IMO (Ganon doesn't count much...).
I have zero expectations for him though, as they seem to be picking Zelda reps in a generic manner. No reps from a specific game.
They probably should, the bongos aren't exactly relevant any more.
(Plus I never really liked his bongo FS, always thought its kill power was kinda weak for a FS)
I think it also helps that Nintendo owns the franchise. So it wouldn't be as hard as getting a third party character, which they already have two confirmed.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
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Awesome idea
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Awesome idea
as like a special mode or something, instead of specific to a stage
I think the only chance Bayonetta has to show up is as a cameo in her Wonderful 101 chibi design. Like, in a W101 stage or as part of a 101 final smash.
But even getting anything W101 related besides trophies will be surprising to me.
Baron von Loathsome
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The Rosalina trailer showed him carrying her the old way.
MrSaturn99
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Aye. The Galaxy Games, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Pikmin 3, Fire Emblem: Awakening...so much to look forward to!!
also LOL at afoni pic
At this point, Diddy's way too well done a solo character to get paired up or radically changed. Most people suggest the change either because they think the DK series isn't getting 4 "slots" or 2 newcomers this go around and want to secure both a Dixie appearance and K. Rool playable character or because they want to see more "pair up" or "multi-character" characters.
In all honesty, it'd be cool to see another pair up character, especially since there are still so many ways to make them stand out. There are a lot of unexplored archetypes they could with that design:
And that's just off the top of my head.
OMG I want this. :O
In all honesty, it'd be cool to see another pair up character, especially since there are still so many ways to make them stand out. There are a lot of unexplored archetypes they could with that design:
- Mirror Characters: Two characters whose moves are executed the same way with no variance between themselves, animation timings not withstanding.(Example: Ice Climbers)
- Point & Assist: Characters that would have a defined "lead" and utilize a nearby character/characters' special or unique action for various setups. (Example: Captain Commando in the MvC series; the Capcom vs. series in general; everyone's thoughts on how Chrom + Lucina would work.)
- Stand/Puppet Characters: A character with a summonable "second party" they can command in tandem with themselves during a match. Said second party can act independently of the main body/person in command. (Example: Rosalina and potentially Zelda)
- Tag Characters: Two characters who have unique move sets and work with tag match mechanics where the lead is the "main character" and can switch spots with a character that's not on the field at the moment. (Example: Donkey and Diddy, Dixie and Diddy, Dixie and Kiddy in the Donkey Kong Country games)
- Sequence Characters: Two characters who have follow ups off of either one's lead. (Example: I had an idea for this involving Isa and Katchi from Sin & Punishment 2 where they both would have "double tap" followups that would have the other person finish what the first started.)
- Unite Characters: A big group of characters who mob things. (Example: The Wonderful 101 in their own game.)
And that's just off the top of my head.
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Awesome idea?as like a special mode or something, instead of specific to a stage
OMG I want this. :O
I’m going to get shit on for bringing up height, but regarding K. Rool, I genuinely think it’s a legitimate concern. There’s a size limit in Smash Bros., and Donkey Kong is already as large as he can be without causing clipping issues or passing through stage platforms. That’s the problem — K. Rool absolutely towers over DK in Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong 64. Whether hardcore K. Rool fans want to admit it or not, having him be the same height as Donkey Kong would look terrible and out of character. He’s supposed to be imposing to DK. Ignoring that aspect of K. Rool’s character changes him fundamentally. I think he’ll be an Assist Trophy (or a boss if the game has those).
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Awesome idea?as like a special mode or something, instead of specific to a stage
The Uprising music alone will make this OST amazing.
Maybe they'll be able to get some David Wise Tropical Freeze stuff in too.
Up until now
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That's true. I really hope that we are getting Donkey Kong County newcomer, since there are few characters that are full of potentials to be fun characters.
I wish that you brought it up like two weeks ago when I was trying to start a discussion about archetype.
I found my old post in Smash 4 Community.
Red Arremer
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What?
Have you even played both of them once? Their movesets are even further apart than Luigi's is from Mario's.
No not exact, but they shared the same moves with different effects. Except for Lucas having PK Freeze.
EDIT: Lucas was my main, rarely played Ness cos of the fact I preferred the effects of his moves.
Lightning Battle, Boss Battle, Goddess Boss Battle, Underworld Remix in Medusa' chapter with Orne melodies here and there...
I'm salivating already.
Maybe I'm weird but only like 3 songs in uprising sounded any good to me.
Weirdo!
He's only slightly bigger than Donkey Kong in Country 2, King of Swing and Jungle Climber. I get what you're saying, though. I feel like they probably would have made Donkey Kong slightly smaller if K. Rool was really added. At the moment he's huge.
MrSaturn99
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If they don't include Magnus's Theme I will fucking rage. Best song in the game.
Ouch that stings!
Anyways it appears I missed out on Aphoni getting banned... He never struck me as even a good troll but he was admittedly fun to have around
Two things:
- My post is full of so many spelling omissions and weird syntax that I feel bad looking at it in your quote. :lol
- I'm totally down to talk mechanics of newcomers. Half the reason I entertain big rosters is because I hope to see some of this stuff actually happen and with fitting characters.
I also forgot Dark Pit's themes. I'm the worst. :lol
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Do you want me to edit the quote out?
Yeah, the potentials of characters always made me interested in to the possibilities. Ironic enough that I had similar idea that I had for Palutena and Centurion is almost same thing as Rosalina and Luma. I was bummed that it didn't happens for Palutena, but here is a hope that she would pick up better mechanic for the moveset.
Here is few move sets that I have been posting in this thread lately.
Tag Team Concept (Instant Tag, unlike poke balls and Zelda/Sheik)
Different kind of trap character that would require strategic to set up the traps. (Like Emmett)
I would like to have Project Melee's Din Flare traps in SSB4, and they can put it on newcomer that would make a better usage of it.
Aurum Island is one of my favorites too. So funky.
theprodigy
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hey by the way
Agnes is the worst
come at me bro
whoa soundtrack discussion?
screw Kid Icarus, I want my Xenoblade music
Smashman45
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F*ck yes. Such a weird contrast from the flying section's theme.
MrSaturn99
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I have no idea what's going in its five-second intro, but I love every moment of it. So different from anything else on the OST.
Why not both?
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Awesome idea?as like a special mode or something, instead of specific to a stage
holy shit this is beautiful
They need to bring this option back. (was it in Melee too?)
It wasn't in Melee because each stage in Melee had 1 or 2 perfect tracks per stage, instead of a bunch of mediocre tracks to choose from like in Brawl.
come the fuck at me melee ost >>>>>>>> brawl ost
BassForever
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Nope. One of the better things Brawl brought to the table.
I just hope music from a series isn't confined to the stage based on said series. Sometimes music from one series can work well on another stage. Obvious example being the varied non jungle based tunes from the DK series. I mean Metroid always seems to be the lava stage so why not use some lava themes from other games like DK so it isn't forced just to have music that suits its own stage.
theprodigy
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neither Melee or Brawl had any Xenoblade music, therefore both were garbage
my logic is flawless
Saying Brawl music is bad is like saying that Nintendo music is bad.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I am more interested in original Smash compositions than remixes. Hopefully Brawl's vast selection of musical options returns.
After playing Uprising, and taking into account the way Sakurai tends to design his move sets, here’s what I’d like to see for Palutena:
Weak attacks - staff swings, twirls, shield strikes
Smash attacks - short range bursts of light from her staff (high, low, etc.)
Standard Special Move - Orbs of Light
Simply pressing B fires a single ball of light from Palutena’s staff, but holding down B can charge up to three orbs, which stack vertically above her staff and fire off one after another.
Side Special Move - Mirror Shield
Palutena thrusts her shield forward as it flashes, deflecting projectiles and acting as an offensive maneuver.
Up Special Move - Levitation
A sphere of heavenly light surrounds Palutena as she floats. Hold B and use the control stick to move her around.
Down Special Move - Centurion Assist
A Centurion hovers above Palutena and automatically attacks anyone who overlaps with him. Pressing Down + B makes the Centurion fire an arrow. The Centurion is killed with a single hit, so it’s very weak.
Final Smash - Palutena Glam Blaster
Palutena fires a massive beam of light from her staff.
Weak attacks - staff swings, twirls, shield strikes
Smash attacks - short range bursts of light from her staff (high, low, etc.)
Standard Special Move - Orbs of Light
Simply pressing B fires a single ball of light from Palutena’s staff, but holding down B can charge up to three orbs, which stack vertically above her staff and fire off one after another.
Side Special Move - Mirror Shield
Palutena thrusts her shield forward as it flashes, deflecting projectiles and acting as an offensive maneuver.
Up Special Move - Levitation
A sphere of heavenly light surrounds Palutena as she floats. Hold B and use the control stick to move her around.
Down Special Move - Centurion Assist
A Centurion hovers above Palutena and automatically attacks anyone who overlaps with him. Pressing Down + B makes the Centurion fire an arrow. The Centurion is killed with a single hit, so it’s very weak.
Final Smash - Palutena Glam Blaster
Palutena fires a massive beam of light from her staff.
The vast majority of melee's tracks were in brawl so this doesn't make any sense outside of the usual Melee everything > Brawl everything mentality.
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Awesome idea?as like a special mode or something, instead of specific to a stage
Ahh don't make me want this too!
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
One thing I am choosing to take away from the Lucario reveal...
It shows that Pokémon with mega evolutions can return without mega evolutions being forced into their movesets.
Good luck, Mewtwo.
It shows that Pokémon with mega evolutions can return without mega evolutions being forced into their movesets.
Good luck, Mewtwo.
Do you want me to edit the quote out?
Nah, I went and edited it so it'd be better to read anyway.
It's funny, as much as I know I'd love to see Palu in game, I actually don't know what archetype she'd be saddled with. As long as she has some oomph behind herself, is very mobile and/or is a projectile monster, that'd already be good enough for me.
I always liked that Turret/Tower Defense style of play ever since I saw it mentioned in these threads. It'd be sorta like playing Kokonoe (Blazblue) and Doronjo (Tatsunoko vs Capcom) at the same time, you build your "bases" on the field and have people cover it and yourself until it's ready then you reap the benefits.
As for my own personal desire, well I don't have anything too grand. The only thing I wanted was a good flail using character, hence my biggest reason for supporting Mike Jones as playable since forever ago. I've always imagined him as a fast paced character that was primarily based around his Island Star (the yo-yo he uses) and it's ability to transform based on his level of focus between a basic yo-yo, a morning star, and that supremely wicked looking flail that shoots flash bangs forward. I even made a moveset for this a few years ago.
Needless to say, this was done a loooooooong time ago. Five years to be exact.
How can you make that assumption without having seen Lucario's Final Smash? If Mega Evolutions are in the game, they're obviously going to be Final Smashes.
We don't know yet if Lucario has his Mega Evolution there though, could be his final smash for all I know.