M1987
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It would be a miracle if they survive
So what's next on the Xbox chopping block?
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diffusionx
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Machine Games
Ninja Theory
Double Fine (will be gutted with only Grounded team, like what happened to Rare today)
Ninja Theory
Double Fine (will be gutted with only Grounded team, like what happened to Rare today)
343
that would be crazy considering they basically built a whole new studio inside PG for it and probably spent $250+ million so far. I know it looks like dogshit.
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LoveCake
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Nintendo practically survive thanks just a single product seems extremely unlikely see sony drops the whole business before them but Nintendo fans are notorious to live in their bubble.Nintendo today be like:
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Dr.Morris79
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12.Hopefully Phil
Wtf how many pride months are there???
Dr. Wilkinson
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I have no idea. I certainly wouldn't have predicted cancelling a well into development next-gen MMO from the team behind ESO. I get the saving $200 mil in development costs. But the risk is losing billions in revenue over 10-15 years.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
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I think Contraband and Blade are gone.
diffusionx
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It makes sense if you think they want to just plow as much money as possible into a few live service "tentpoles" like COD and ESO and don't want to split their userbase.
ByWatterson
Member
Honestly they should axe 343 entirely and contract Bungie to reboot Halo.
Dr. Wilkinson
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A purely financial decision that doesn't factor in the fact that the studio doesn't have any desire creatively or otherwise to do nothing but churn out DLC for the same game until the end of time. Talent bleed is real, and eventually the studio could become essentially worthless (343i).
digoutyoursoul
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Why not give the Doom team a chance at it?
diffusionx
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yea, agreed on all counts, but it's Microsoft we are talking about. Like Steve Jobs said many years ago, this company has no taste.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Halo 4 was great, all that ex-Retro Metroid Prime talent. But what the hell happened to Halo with 5 and ever since? Yikes.
digoutyoursoul
Member
If a gaming enthusiast ever wanted to enter the world of documentary film making, it would be a good place to start.
I've just posted this in another thread
Lmao, do these grown up people actually believe that shit? And who the hell would even think about gaming if one struggles to pay rents and afford food? This is" is this real life or a fantasy" on a whole different level lol.
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One can only hope.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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And this is part of why Halo isn't even taken seriously any more! Xbox's greatest franchise too. Very sad and no, not "just" because they have LGBT skins but I still think these little decisions add up to damage the reputation of a series over time. Instead of awesome sci fi military imagery THIS is what the devs want people to see when thinking about Halo...it would be one thing if Halo had just released an amazing game and was kicking ass in terms of popularity but that's definitely not the case.
What a joke
YeulEmeralda
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AI so far has cost all the mega corporations billions.
But what do I know I'm an old man who doesn't need AI to summarise emails I can still read.
ByWatterson
Member
Great idea. Love that.
ByWatterson
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We unironically need toxic men driving the bus on certain franchises.
p_xavier
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There's no such thing as a txic man.
ByWatterson
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You know what I mean
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Oof. Cringe.
Moriarty1889
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It will more than likely be canned as well, sadly. MS is an utter joke of a company with how they have run the Xbox brand into the ground.
Moriarty1889
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if Fable is cancelled as well. It seems any of the games they haven't shown that have been in development for a while are being axed.
Moriarty1889
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It shows what is more important to these imbeciles.
Moriarty1889
Member
Matt Booty is utterly terrible at his job. I would place a lot of the failures on his lack of vision and management. Phil is terrible and should have been sacked long ago. He has more cancelled games in his tenure than successfully launched games. Sarah Bond is just a token hire to check a box for MS's progressive appearance in the industry. New management is needed to try to turn things around. I doubt it will happen though because Phil must have something on Nadella that keeps him in an untouchable state.
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EDMIX
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This looks like if you ate gushers, fruit roll ups and sweet tarts and had them battling it out in your stomach for bubbles rumble supremacy!
Simply Sami
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Isn't most of 343 ex Bungie staff? Then you have to factor in how many original people from Bungie that worked on Halo are still there.
I think Halo needs new eyes and new set of developers rather than going back to the same old. It's a risk but sometimes you need to take risks to succeed.
MS have lots of studios with FPS experience. ID software, Machinegames, Treyarch, infinity ward, sledgehammer and Raven.
Just take your pick, why go back to Bungie.
ByWatterson
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1. Microsoft doesn't know how to manage many of its teams.
2. Bungie has the best shooting gameplay in games.
3. Good headlines.
Simply Sami
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4. Sony haven't spent big money on Bungie, so they can work on Microsoft's biggest franchise.
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L*][*N*K
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I think that game is in very advanced development which is why I highly doubt they will can it, I expect it early 2027 with Clockwork and State of Decay 3.
Cyberpunkd
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The other 10 are White Pride Months obviously.
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And let Hugo turn it into autistic pacific rim in space? pass
Dirk Benedict
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Then, projectile vomit the rainbow gut gunk straight into the armor for proper etching.
Danny22
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I can see why this was Gaf's Goty
Shubh_C63
Member
They already have a industry leading FPS studio with them and another DOOM is certainly not going to be made in 10 years seeing the Dark Ages number.
Yet they won't give it to iD. or iD don't want any of that.
kungfuian
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These are the logical questions to ask-
Who just released a new IP that had mid reviews or performed only OK? I'm 1000% positive Microsoft are evaluating recently released games' performance, releasing them cross platform first to recoup their loses, then shutting that shit down after.
Who is close to releasing a game that looks mid? As soon as those projects ship it's logical for Microsoft to evaluate the strength of engagement/sales and to not ramp up their next projects, especially if the IP is not big enough to be worth it.
Who has a game that is very far out but of high risk (unknown/new IPs, single player, long dev cycles, large staff). I could see these Devs get scaled down and 'redirected' to stronger performing/known IP.
Some obvious guesses for Devs that fit these categories-
-Ninja Theory- They are releasing Hell Blade 2 on PlayStation to either get the most from their investment or evaluating the cross platform viability of Ninja Theory's games. My guess is the game sells poorly (just don't see it doing particularly well) followed by either a scaling back of the dev or an outright closure.
-Compulsion- Just don't think their games are of high enough quality and appeal. Not even sure South of Midnight performed well enough to justify a cross platform release let alone investment in future projects.
-Obsidian- Guessing they don't make it through the year in their current form/size. We might see Avowed released Cross platform to recoup investment but there is no way it performed well enough to warrant further investment in the IP. I can't imagine the new tighter belted x-box approving any vanity artistic projects like Pentiment going forward. And their next game, Out Worlds 2, just doesn't look particularly good (sorry just not seeing it). Their one saving grace is Grounded (Microsoft love those GAAS games), so I'd wager on them being scaled down around that IP or GAAS projects like it.
-Double Fine- Keeper looks awesome to me, but it is clearly of limited mass appeal. I think Tim and Co have a better chance of weathering the storm than those mentioned above just based on pedigree, but they are by no means safe as they mostly make games of smaller scale and with limited sales/appeal. Not the type of big hits x-box seems to be realigning itself toward..
Who just released a new IP that had mid reviews or performed only OK? I'm 1000% positive Microsoft are evaluating recently released games' performance, releasing them cross platform first to recoup their loses, then shutting that shit down after.
Who is close to releasing a game that looks mid? As soon as those projects ship it's logical for Microsoft to evaluate the strength of engagement/sales and to not ramp up their next projects, especially if the IP is not big enough to be worth it.
Who has a game that is very far out but of high risk (unknown/new IPs, single player, long dev cycles, large staff). I could see these Devs get scaled down and 'redirected' to stronger performing/known IP.
Some obvious guesses for Devs that fit these categories-
-Ninja Theory- They are releasing Hell Blade 2 on PlayStation to either get the most from their investment or evaluating the cross platform viability of Ninja Theory's games. My guess is the game sells poorly (just don't see it doing particularly well) followed by either a scaling back of the dev or an outright closure.
-Compulsion- Just don't think their games are of high enough quality and appeal. Not even sure South of Midnight performed well enough to justify a cross platform release let alone investment in future projects.
-Obsidian- Guessing they don't make it through the year in their current form/size. We might see Avowed released Cross platform to recoup investment but there is no way it performed well enough to warrant further investment in the IP. I can't imagine the new tighter belted x-box approving any vanity artistic projects like Pentiment going forward. And their next game, Out Worlds 2, just doesn't look particularly good (sorry just not seeing it). Their one saving grace is Grounded (Microsoft love those GAAS games), so I'd wager on them being scaled down around that IP or GAAS projects like it.
-Double Fine- Keeper looks awesome to me, but it is clearly of limited mass appeal. I think Tim and Co have a better chance of weathering the storm than those mentioned above just based on pedigree, but they are by no means safe as they mostly make games of smaller scale and with limited sales/appeal. Not the type of big hits x-box seems to be realigning itself toward..
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