Star Trek: Starfleet Academy — Teaser Trailer

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Looks like some of the Jem'Hadar have been hitting the replicators a little too hard:

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But at least we have these gems:

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They really want to run this IP straight into the ground don't they

This literary genius's life's work is to destroy everything he touches. There aren't enough photon torpedoes in the Federation to match the damage Kurtzman, Abrams, and the rest of those idiots have inflicted on us and on the franchises we once loved.

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please stop

You can feel the worldview of the people behind it, saturating every frame. I can already hear the fortune-cookie dialogue and cheap emotionally saturated cryfests; can already predict every scene's cast, where if it's a brilliant engineer it'll be a female & if it's a barista or something it'll be male, because reversing human norms is their religion; can already see the lack of adulthood in every character, everyone will quip and act like bad buffy or marvel characters and the mature crew members of something like TNG are impossible to even transplant into these scenes.

absolute nightmare, no one involved in recent Trek should ever make content of any kind again (Kurtzman's co-writer for Picard & co-creator for Strange New Worlds was the screenwriter for Batman & Robin and for 1998's Lost in Space... quite truly one of the worst minds in the entire history of film). In a sane world they'd all be unemployed.
 
More NuTrek vomit. Star Trek as a TV show died somewhere during Voyager's run. I gave Enterprise multiple chances on the strength of its cast but it was the beginning of the end. The stupid temporal war story line basically paved the way for all the NuTrek crap that's come out all these years later.

The people behind Trek these days seem to want to make anything but Star Trek. The only modern Trek show that I actually liked was the damn kids cartoon they had on Nickelodeon, Star Trek Prodigy. At least it tried to stick to old Trek ethos, even if it copied a few notes from Voyager itself.
 
More NuTrek vomit. Star Trek as a TV show died somewhere during Voyager's run. I gave Enterprise multiple chances on the strength of its cast but it was the beginning of the end. The stupid temporal war story line basically paved the way for all the NuTrek crap that's come out all these years later.

The people behind Trek these days seem to want to make anything but Star Trek. The only modern Trek show that I actually liked was the damn kids cartoon they had on Nickelodeon, Star Trek Prodigy. At least it tried to stick to old Trek ethos, even if it copied a few notes from Voyager itself.

Enterprise was much better than almost all nu trek (Strange new worlds is pretty fantastic).
 
Can´t wait for the lines "Starfleet Academy is a safe space for everyone" and "chaH jIH'e'. yIlo'."
Klingon for "They is what I am. Use it.", the equivalent for "My pronouns are they/them"
 
120 years from the last graduation and they got...
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such a diverse class!!!

I still remember when Trekies were berating over the internet when JJ Abrams got the franchise... :D
 
I'm not a ST fan. I've seen most of the movies and remember watching some ST TNG episodes back in the day sitting with my bro who loved it.... I got to admit anytime I saw a Q episode where the guy is dicking around making Patrick Stewart get frazzled were good episodes. And 1980s Wrath of Khan is a straight up excellent movie.

My reaction to the trailer as a nobody is it looked fine to me.

BUT, I can definitely see some potential junkiness even though that trailer tried to make it epic and serious. No different than most superhero trailers.....

..... the real content will be full of lame jokes. And since this ST show is skewed to a young cast, I dont see the plots being heavy into traditional ST content where an older cast who are veteran Starfleet explorers take on planetary adventures.

It'll probably be filled with tons of college kid kind of plots, where there's some space adventures but also Dawson's Creek home life drama.
 
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There seemed to be not many fat people on Star trek for the obvious reasons in the future the medical side of tech took care of that.

Why so many fats?

What's with the fucking lensflare in trek just everything is fucking bright.
 
This looks terrible.

Reference to Sisko cool. Character doing solo hip hop dance in the idealized future.....What are they doing.
 
This is set almost 1000 years in the future from Kirk's time. A LOT has changed but some things stay the same.

Yes, it's bright. They're on Earth. Starfleet Academy is in San Francisco on Earth. It's always been that way.

The J'em Hadar woman is half Klingon

The cheerful black young lady is an artificial intelligence hologram like The Doctor (who's back in this show)

I feel like some of y'all didn't really watch Star Trek or aren't actually fans.

I'm willing to give this a try
 
Good, someone did it :P

This has the same weird visuals/camera work I DETEST in Discovery. And it looks to be heavily "character relationship" focused instead of episodic and objective focused. So even more of what I don't want in Trek. SNW is about as far over in that direction as I can take. None of the characters are particularly interesting looking as well. Even stacking the cast with Holly Hunter, Paul Giamatti, Tatiana Maslani, and Oded Fehr ain't gonna help because all the new characters are the most punchable smug mofos I've ever seen.
 
The people behind Trek these days seem to want to make anything but Star Trek. The only modern Trek show that I actually liked was the damn kids cartoon they had on Nickelodeon, Star Trek Prodigy. At least it tried to stick to old Trek ethos, even if it copied a few notes from Voyager itself.
If you haven't already, check out Lower Decks. It's honestly the most Trek-like NuTrek thing that exists, so of course it gets cancelled.
 
It had a 5 year run, ended on top.
True, but still feels like it was too soon. Would have loved to see seven seasons so it could join the cool kids club with TNG, DS9, and Voyager.
 
True, but still feels like it was too soon. Would have loved to see seven seasons so it could join the cool kids club with TNG, DS9, and Voyager.
I hope they put out little runs of that show from time to time. Its the perfect place for all the memberberry stuff they keep injecting into much more expensive Trek shows that would be better off just boldly going forward instead of CONSTANTLY looking back. Plus it has that beautiful TNG+ design aesthetic that is peak Star Trek to me.
 
Another bunch of shite that's processed through the piss filter. You can certainly tell they have a raging boner for casting a diverse cast (which doesn't bother me, honestly), but how about adding some diversity to your overall colour palette for fuck's sake? Not everything needs to have this glowing sheen/filter vomited all over it.
 
You can certainly tell they have a raging boner for casting a diverse cast (which doesn't bother me, honestly), but
the thing is, it's not real diversity -- it's a kind of "neutralized diversity" that is religiously venerated in certain media now

Old Trek was saturated with diversity at the level of species and their objectives/values: Klingons and their honor-based society, Ferengi and a certain conception of barter/commerce as culture, Vulcans and their dedication to emotionless objectivity, the Founders as a kind of arrogant higher life form that manipulates the lower solids almost as a divine mandate, Bajorans and their complex religious history, and so on.

And each of these had radically different, hard-line approaches to matters of gender by the way... actual Star Trek characters who are full members & allies of the Federation whose cultures nonetheless enforce arranged marriages, strict restriction of careers & roles by sex, etc. In other words, real differences that matter were everywhere.

But what we get with nu-Trek is more like a corporate HR meeting or a college brochure: you don't get hard differentiation at the level of fundamental cultural values, but instead you get "culture/race as decoration", where they jumble the races/genders of every character in a way that actually negates hard differences. When you keep giving us "reversal" characters in the general formula of "he's a Klingon but wow he's a passionate, kind cook" or "she's a Ferengi but wow super a bit anti-capitalist and feminist" or whatever absurdities, you're not creating more diversity, you're killing difference.

As a result, no faction/race truly represents fundamental societal and cultural differences... all the characters feel the same (and juvenile, like it's a cheap YA novel) in their embrace of vague 2020-ish cultural progressivism down to their mannerisms and all their comments or opinions.

It's exactly what you see in recent corporate-driven RPGs as well: look at the way races in Dungeons & Dragons have become mere decoration, color for your character, but of course everyone is encouraged to play mismatched amalgams like "I'm a female dwarf who is actually highly intelligent and refined mage, and not at all like the anti-magic dwarves you remember!" So the result is again a kind of neutralized difference, where everyone basically gets along and has the same general ethos (compare to original AD&D having a table of racial distrust/hatred that gave reality to the harsh lines between them!) and there is no conflict except those that feel like they've been mediated by a therapist or a group crying session.

It's a faaaaaaake
 
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the thing is, it's not real diversity -- it's a kind of "neutralized diversity" that is religiously venerated in certain media now

Old Trek was saturated with diversity at the level of species and their objectives/values: Klingons and their honor-based society, Ferengi and a certain conception of barter/commerce as culture, Vulcans and their dedication to emotionless objectivity, the Founders as a kind of arrogant higher life form that manipulates the lower solids almost as a divine mandate, Bajorans and their complex religious history, and so on.

And each of these had radically different, hard-line approaches to matters of gender by the way... actual Star Trek characters who are full members & allies of the Federation whose cultures nonetheless enforce arranged marriages, strict restriction of careers & roles by sex, etc. In other words, real differences that matter were everywhere.

But what we get with nu-Trek is more like a corporate HR meeting or a college brochure: you don't get hard differentiation at the level of fundamental cultural values, but instead you get "culture/race as decoration", where they jumble the races/genders of every character in a way that actually negates hard differences. When you keep giving us "reversal" characters in the general formula of "he's a Klingon but wow he's a passionate, kind cook" or "she's a Ferengi but wow super a bit anti-capitalist and feminist" or whatever absurdities, you're not creating more diversity, you're killing difference.

As a result, no faction/race truly represents fundamental societal and cultural differences... all the characters feel the same (and juvenile, like it's a cheap YA novel) in their embrace of vague 2020-ish cultural progressivism down to their mannerisms and all their comments or opinions.

It's exactly what you see in recent corporate-driven RPGs as well: look at the way races in Dungeons & Dragons have become mere decoration, color for your character, but of course everyone is encouraged to play mismatched amalgams like "I'm a female dwarf who is actually highly intelligent and refined mage, and not at all like the anti-magic dwarves you remember!" So the result is again a kind of neutralized difference, where everyone basically gets along and has the same general ethos (compare to original AD&D having a table of racial distrust/hatred that gave reality to the harsh lines between them!) and there is no conflict except those that feel like they've been mediated by a therapist or a group crying session.

It's a faaaaaaake
Dammit I was gonna bring up DnD whilst reading your post but you beat me to it :P

You summarize the issue so well.
 
Is this an academy for women? Theres waaay more female than male. Also that video is straight up cringe and try hard on diversity/message lol
That fatass bitch doesn't even look like it belongs there.

Looks like some of the Jem'Hadar have been hitting the replicators a little too hard:

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Worst is that I can see her not looking much different from that make up lol
 
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