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New Epstein Emails: Elon Musk Repeatedly Asked To Visit Epstein Island



Pizzagate was real?

This and the baby sacrifices witness testimony are just... wtf. And the pictures, good lord.

And there's more that hasn't been disclosed. Can you imagine how horrific it must be?

This thread got my curiosity going.
This week I am going to start The Age of Abundance and Committee of 300.
 
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Not running defense for anyone, if you guys want to think every billionaire molests kids have at it
That's not what I'm saying. I just don't trust any of them. I wouldn't trust a billionaire any more than I would trust any stranger, and I certainly don't think they're worth all the adulation they seem to receive. If you are truly a magnanimous person, you shouldn't really care about whether you're liked or respected by everyone.

Just think of the children next time you buy your next Nvidia GPU or AMD product, I mean surely they are both listed there to, right?
Thank you I will.

Oh and btw, we have at least one real billionaire on these forums, have gotten to know him quite well over the years and would bet massive piles of money he has never molested a kid simply because he has everything
I don't really care how many billionaires you know or have met. But I haven't suggested that all billionaires have molested children. I do think, that they have benefited enormously from the exploitation of some group of people. Because there's no other way you can make that much money. And people can appear and make nice, but that doesn't mean you know what they are underneath. Nobody's going to tell you about all the depraved shit they might have got up to.

And thanks for saying I am just mostly corrupt and morally bankrupt, sorry I have come across that way on these forums over the many years I have been here
Ok - I never said that YOU were morally bankrupt. Just that most of your peers and the billionaire class above you probably are.

But I will stand by what I said. If you have reached a level of wealth that leaves you with no want, but still want more. More money, more power, more influence. More more more. Yeah. I think that type of person is absolutely morally bankrupt. And you know, looking at all the major billionaires out there who are loathe to part with any of their wealth. The people who we know were hanging around Epstein and his ilk. The people who buy politicians and lobby governments to do things specifically in their interests. The billionaires who securitized mortgages, and caused a huge economic disaster that we've still not recovered from and then paid off politicians to ensure they received no punishment for it.
Yeah man. I believe what I said.

Feel free to find me a billionaire who is not ultimately self-serving.
 
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Not running defense for anyone, if you guys want to think every billionaire molests kids have at it

Just think of the children next time you buy your next Nvidia GPU or AMD product, I mean surely they are both listed there to, right?

Oh and btw, we have at least one real billionaire on these forums, have gotten to know him quite well over the years and would bet massive piles of money he has never molested a kid simply because he has everything

And thanks for saying I am just mostly corrupt and morally bankrupt, sorry I have come across that way on these forums over the many years I have been here

There are plenty of wealthy mofos who live hardworking, decent, and upstanding lives. I know a few (millionaires) personally too. It's also pretty safe to assume that people like Federer, Buffett, Luckey (?), and many others are not cartoon villains. No one serious is claiming that all millionaires or billionaires, or any income bracket, are paedophiles. That would be an absurd generalisation, and I don't think you should lose any sleep over some of the emotion running in this thread right now.

The problem is that this reality has been overshadowed by the revelations of a coordinated and extensive network of rich and powerful cunts who appear disproportionately in the Epstein files, alongside suspect and deeply questionable correspondence with Epstein himself, a convicted sex trafficker of underage people.

Elon and others were loudly and publicly condemning anyone associated with Epstein, only for it now to emerge that they were right in the thick of the shit themselves.

On one level it's hilariously pathetic - the virtue signalling, the hypocrisy, the outright lies. On another level it's simply disgusting, especially given that some of these idiots are parents themselves.
 
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New released files are hilarious to be honest. Especially the fact that it also contains mix of credible and non-credible information coming from normal and intoxicated individuals.

We might find Agartha soon too.

sooo uhh, how is trump and co going to sweep this one under the rug this time? that rug is going to look like it's hiding several elephants at this point
sweep what exactly? Trump has not been implicated there. So far the only things were got about him were coming from people who turned out to be not credible according to FBI folks and one guy who said he had a informant in the FBI that turned out to be himself.
 
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Millionaires can be decent people, billionaires don't get to that level of wealth without absolutely fucking over normal people, you would have to be utterly naive to think otherwise
 
Yeah seeing on socials about child sacrifice and canibalism and im like what in the fuck are you all on about.

Mind you, my algo is full of just the iranian people plight these past few days.
 
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I guess its just disheartening to me that people want to lump all ultra wealthy people into this giant cesspool of child rapist demonic satanic ritualistic killers

History is clear on who those people are and what are their motivations and the value of their bankrupt ideologies. You're being fooled by their pseudo-moral languge (genuinely and delusionally believed by them) and the notion that most humans are rational and moral beings who want a better world and they all mean the same things when they use nice magic words like truth and justice and empathy and kindness etc...
 
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If you want me to be honest I am almost 59 years old and if my trajectory continues as the previous 10 years, I will be by the time I am 70

So to answer your question, presently no

I guess I wont become a monster until then
You seem pretty good from what I see on here....wait....WAIT....you're older than, Topher. We should all get together for dinner. I can picture it now.

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But I will stand by what I said. If you have reached a level of wealth that leaves you with no want, but still want more. More money, more power, more influence. More more more. Yeah. I think that type of person is absolutely morally bankrupt. And you know, looking at all the major billionaires out there who are loathe to part with any of their wealth. The people who we know were hanging around Epstein and his ilk. The people who buy politicians and lobby governments to do things specifically in their interests. The billionaires who securitized mortgages, and caused a huge economic disaster that we've still not recovered from and then paid off politicians to ensure they received no punishment for it.
Yeah man. I believe what I said.

Feel free to find me a billionaire who is not ultimately self-serving.

While I am a bit further out from the billionaire line than Heisenberg, I can tell you that money doesn't necessarily corrupt you, and doesn't have to come from exploiting anyone.

On the first point, when you hit extreme wealth - this is way, way before a billion btw - you experience what ChatGPT called "terminal capital sufficiency". The money pile grows faster than than you can use it. The pile grows 5-13% a year and compounds. There is not enough days in the year to dine in Michelin restaurants, stay in Aman and wear Loro Piana to make a dent. The only way you can impact the pile is a private jet or a yacht. So I think you are somewhat unlikely to want to chase more. Nor do I feel are you very likely to want power, because with power comes visibility, which reduces your privacy, security and freedom. Things you value most. In fact, it becomes a lonely point as your life so radically diverges from your friends. They can't just leave their desk for an impromptu trip. They have a goal to chase - even if it is just keeping the hamster wheel going. You can't figure out a project worth your while, since your wealth grows faster. So eventually you gravitate towards quiet philanthropy. To have something meaningful to do.

On the second point, becoming ultra wealthy doesn't have to mean you have exploited someone. It can happen because you are one of the very few people who believe in a startup, and end up with a meaningful position during their tough years, and when they explode, a bank buys your shares at a crazy prize.

To bring the discussion back to this thread, I personally am completely unable to comprehend the behaviour of the billionaires around Epstein. Why would you go to someone else's place to fuck? Why the fuck would you want to fuck underage people? If you are fucking a Russian prostitute, why on earth wouldn't you use a condom? I can't empathise with any of it.
 
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While I am a bit further out from the billionaire line than Heisenberg, I can tell you that money doesn't necessarily corrupt you, and doesn't have to come from exploiting anyone.

On the first point, when you hit extreme wealth - this is way, way before a billion btw - you experience what ChatGPT called "terminal capital sufficiency". The money pile grows faster than than you can use it. The pile grows 5-13% a year and compounds. There is not enough days in the year to dine in enough Michelin restaurants, stay in Aman and wear Loro Piana to make a dent. The only way you can impact the pile is a private jet or a yacht. So I think you are somewhat unlikely to want to chase more. Nor do I feel are you very likely to want power, because with power comes visibility, which reduces your privacy, security and freedom. Things you value most. In fact, it becomes a lonely point as your life so radically diverges from your friends. They can't just leave their desk for an impromptu trip. They have a goal to chase - even if it is just keeping the hamster wheel going. You can't figure out a project worth your while, since your wealth grows faster. So eventually you gravitate towards quiet philanthropy. To have something meaningful to do.

On the second point, becoming ultra wealthy doesn't have to mean you have exploited someone. It can happen because you are one of the very few people who believe in a startup, and end up with a meaningful position during their tough years, and when they explode, a bank buys your shares at a crazy prize.

To bring the discussion back to this thread, I personally am completely unable to comprehend the behaviour of the billionaires around Epstein. Why would you go to someone else's place to fuck? Why the fuck would you want to fuck underage people? If you are fucking a Russian prostitute, why on earth wouldn't you use a condom? I can't emphatically with any of it.
My impression is that Gates did use a condom. Shortly after the STD incident he apparently made a public announcement about wanting to fund a new generation of high tech condoms with better protection. To save the planet of course.
 
So the president has been accused of raping a 13 year old girl, how the fuck is he still in office?
Accusations aren't evidence. The biggest trove of credible info in this release is the personal emails. The various testimony being documented, we don't know how credible any of it is.
 
So the president has been accused of raping a 13 year old girl, how the fuck is he still in office?

Im at the point where I genuinely believe if he went on the podium and just confessed to creeping on girls it would take actual months for anything to happen to his presidency.

I mean. He did say a decade ago that he could shoot someone and get votes. We just didn't realize how right he was.

Edit: And what EL says above me is true. It is accusations.

But there was a time just accusations were considered damaging enough to the representative of this countries reputation that it made you unfit for office.

That time has passed clearly.
 
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While I am a bit further out from the billionaire line than Heisenberg, I can tell you that money doesn't necessarily corrupt you, and doesn't have to come from exploiting anyone.

On the first point, when you hit extreme wealth - this is way, way before a billion btw - you experience what ChatGPT called "terminal capital sufficiency". The money pile grows faster than than you can use it. The pile grows 5-13% a year and compounds. There is not enough days in the year to dine in Michelin restaurants, stay in Aman and wear Loro Piana to make a dent. The only way you can impact the pile is a private jet or a yacht. So I think you are somewhat unlikely to want to chase more.
And yet people do. The very worst of us do. And those are the people you see with tens or hundreds of billions. The ones who party with Epstein. Because nothing is enough. They don't suddenly become bad, they were always bad. They just didn't have enough money to get away with it until they got their billions.

Nor do I feel are you very likely to want power, because with power comes visibility, which reduces your privacy, security and freedom. Things you value most. In fact, it becomes a lonely point as your life so radically diverges from your friends. They can't just leave their desk for an impromptu trip. They have a goal to chase - even if it is just keeping the hamster wheel going. You can't figure out a project worth your while, since your wealth grows faster. So eventually you gravitate towards quiet philanthropy. To have something meaningful to do.
If you really don't care about having more and want to give back to society, just liquidate your stock and pay the capital gains on it. Not like you're ever going to run out. Why take out lines of credit secured against your wealth? How does that benefit anyone other than you? Why make charitable foundations that are tax exempt to do great things? Why not just build a school or a hospital or a bunch of affordable homes and fucking give them away? You don't need a placard anywhere that reminds people what you did. Because that isn't the point of philanthropy.


On the second point, becoming ultra wealthy doesn't have to mean you have exploited someone. It can happen because you are one of the very few people who believe in a startup, and end up with a meaningful position during their tough years, and when they explode, a bank buys your shares at a crazy prize.
So its luck, then? And you know what fair enough. Maybe you did become a billionaire through a lucky moonshot investment. If you're satisfied with that, that's cool. But we all know the people that crave that kind of wealth and the power that comes with it, never stop wanting more. Remember when 10 years ago, everyone thought Elon was some wholesome billionaire out there trying to save the world by making viable electric cars, and solar homes and trying to colonise Mars for the perpetuation of the human race? Where's all that now? Remember, Elon hasn't changed, he was always like this underneath the surface. He just now has the wealth and power and control to take the mask off. He played the "good guy" Tony Stark wannabe, as long as that image served him. But as we can see from these emails, he's always been a rat bastard. And that's what all these people are.

I wouldn't trust a single one of them. I certainly would not make them my hero, or celebrate them. They don't deserve it.

To bring the discussion back to this thread, I personally am completely unable to comprehend the behaviour of the billionaires around Epstein. Why would you go to someone else's place to fuck? Why the fuck would you want to fuck underage people? If you are fucking a Russian prostitute, why on earth wouldn't you use a condom? I can't empathise with any of it.
Nobody can understand. They're just psychos.
 
Accusations aren't evidence. The biggest trove of credible info in this release is the personal emails. The various testimony being documented, we don't know how credible any of it is.
I see - So the Prince Andrew stuff, the tortue, etc . Same deal? We'll just never know if any of this is credible? These files will be discussed for generations. Like the moon landing, JFK, Area 51, etc. It's pretty unfair to the general public. But what the fuck can we do. Sigh
 
Was there any specific statement explaining why the other 2.5 million documents aren't being released? If all this stuff is what they were willing to release, what kind of stuff is still being held back?
 
Was there any specific statement explaining why the other 2.5 million documents aren't being released? If all this stuff is what they were willing to release, what kind of stuff is still being held back?

No idea, but DoJ are already arguing that even the Congress can't compel them to release all the docs.

So you can basically read the subtext and understand they're only going to release curated stuff, we're never gonna see everything.

 
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No idea, but DoJ are already arguing that even the Congress can't compel them to release all the docs.

So you can basically read the subtext and understand they're only going to release curated stuff, we're never gonna see everything.

Man, where's Wikileaks when you need him…
 
He also says in this interview he had to live off one almond joy bar a day in prison because of the likelihood that his food would be poisoned.
 
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