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Starting today, more games benefit from new PSSR upscaling on PS5 Pro
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Diego Brasil
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That's the most stark difference of all.
Parece que passou de 1080p para 4k.
That's the most stark difference of all.
Parece que passou de 1080p para 4k.
Dust-by-Monday
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There's a SLIGHT HINT of the foliage noise but I think it's more to do with the fog rolling around than the GI noise that was there before PSSR2.
I played a little bit and it's no longer distracting to me and I was very annoyed before.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Yep, so far the biggest jump i've seenis Avatar performance mode. I really like snowdrop engine. If I remember correctly, that was what Division 2 was made on.
There is a video comparison about it? Because I'm very sensitive to this stuff and I'm scared the improvement couldn't be what I expected
the boiling effects in the foliage is mine worst nightmare
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Meicyn
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It is. The Division 2 still holds up visually to this day despite being a PS4/Xbox One game due to their talented artists and engineers. It's great that PSSR finally showcases their work properly on console. I legit cannot wait to see what they have in store for Division 3 in the coming years.
Dust-by-Monday
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I'm telling you, it's so much better. I'm honestly very easily bothered by noise and the boiling effect and flickering and now I think this game looks great and 100% playable.There is a video about it? Because I'm very sensitive to this stuff and I'm scared the improvement coukd be enough for my standard
CrustyBritches
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I just got back into it during the anniversary sale and event. It looks fucking awesome on PC. Decent amount of players too.
cripterion
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Helldivers 2 needs to support this. I thought they said a while back they properly wanted to support the Pro...
Chuck Berry
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More RE4R. Honestly I noticed the better IQ quicker than I did when I first got my OLED. And this is the only game I've seen so far.
Before I crash for the night I'm definitely going to fire up Control, Requiem and Silent Hill 2.
So far this has been the best thing that's happened this year for me when it comes to games
Before I crash for the night I'm definitely going to fire up Control, Requiem and Silent Hill 2.
So far this has been the best thing that's happened this year for me when it comes to games
Oh well. Maybe they need to update or do something or psvr2 don't use PSSR 2
mrqs
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That's the most stark difference of all.
Parece que passou de 1080p para 4k.
Avatar had the biggest difference for me. Played a lot today, it looks really crisp! The water also looks much less noisy.
Manic27
Neo Member
Doesn't this only work for games that supported PSSR? RE4R doesn't support PSSR on Pro.More RE4R. Honestly I noticed the better IQ quicker than I did when I first got my OLED. And this is the only game I've seen so far.
Before I crash for the night I'm definitely going to fire up Control, Requiem and Silent Hill 2.
So far this has been the best thing that's happened this year for me when it comes to games
it does, DF made a mistake claiming that it doesn't but then corrected it
TGO
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It's gone for the most part, but you can still spot it in places at a distance(like a couple of feet in front of you) that's Silent Hill 2There is a video comparison about it? Because I'm very sensitive to this stuff and I'm scared the improvement couldn't be what I expected
Silent Hill F is odd because it like it fails to fix it in spots but moving the camera can reset it and they it clears up.
Also foliage in SHF has a lot of break up when moving but resolves Sharp when you stop.
rickybooby87
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That's the most stark difference of all.
Parece que passou de 1080p para 4k.
Cerny haters:
Manic27
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I stand corrected. Thanks.
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Wonder what it will do for Crimson Desert
Inviusx
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AVATAR
That's the most stark difference of all.
Parece que passou de 1080p para 4k.
These gifs demonstrate the differences better than anything else in this thread. KEEP DOING THIS PEOPLE!
Putonahappyface
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The game needs a few more patches, but that is certainly an improvement.
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MrAlwaysRight
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What Project Amethyst needs to deliver next is for the PSSR Toggle to replace FSR with PSSR without a developer patch.
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Chuck Berry
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RE3R looks cleaner
BiohazardX95
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Resident evil village is clearer now in hfr mode and shows more detail at distance than the normal 60 fps mode
Spukc
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kevboard
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I doubt that's gonna happen.
it would have a performance impact and would probably lead to issues with a bunch of games
The game doesn't support PSSR...RE3R looks cleaner
BiohazardX95
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It does, both Village and RE4 support PSSR but only in HFR mode. DF also stated that Village uses pssr in 60 fps mode but that is not true, at least not in current version. Only HFR modes support it.
Doctor Hades
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The ghosting is unique to the Quality mode which uses PSSR. It was really really bad. The Performance mode, which does not use PSSR, does not have this severe ghosting and I had to look really really hard to see any at all so I can only conclude that the issue is from PSSR.
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To clarify, this ghosting effect only appears when forcing PSSR2 as I have been playing the game on the Pro using Quality mode and do not remember seeing the issue with the original PSSR. This issue may be worse in this specific area but it was the first area I tested after resuming my save game and I was surprised to see it looking that bad. However, I suspect that forcing PSSR2 at a system level will have these 'side effects' as it is a generic implementation of the new upscaler not one patched in and customised for the game via a patch.
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Radical_3d
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Not sure if you are missing things.
But this is dirty as fuck
To correct something I wrote earlier: said TLOU2 looked unimpressive, but I forgot that Naughty Dog left the old performance mode in the game, so I was seeing that lol. Turned on the Pro mode with PSSR 2 and man the difference was hilarious. It might be the best illustration of the tech you can easily demonstrate. Same base res of 1440p, absolute night and day difference. It looks significantly better than the native 4k mode.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I was messing around with Avatar some more. I'm still learning best methodology for this stuff, but something I realized is that the Avatar comparison I did was not using 'Performance', it was using 'Quality(60fps) mode'. That means dynamic resolution with 60fps target. So the comparison is still absolutely valid, I just wanted to clarify. Comparing the 'Quality' 30fps mode, the difference isn't as stark because PSSR1 and PSSR2 are probably operating at the same/max resolution. The most obvious difference isn't in the texture clarity like 'Quality(60fps)' , but instead in the substantial reduction in GI boiling.
Diego Brasil
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First berserker is not using PSSR at all. The placebo effect is huge. xD
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RER3 not uses PSSR though.RE3R looks cleaner
Bojji
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That was one of the most annoying things about PSSR1.
RE2 and RE3 were patched way before Pro appeared and they had HFR mode on base consoles.
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Skifi28
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Searching online there's nothing definitive, some sources say it does others it doesn't. Performance mode was always rough and the noise patterns always reminded me of PSSR which is why I tested it. It didn't look like any other obvious upscaler to me.
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Are you kidding? Ghosting on TSR in SH2 is far more pronounced especially in objects animated in motion.
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saintjules
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HFR mode does.
FUBARx89
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Yeah. Ghosting is terrible in SH2. Base console. Pro. Performance or quality. Makes no difference.
Was the first thing I noticed when playing SH2 at launch. The horrible ghosting trials left behind by leaves etc.
darthkarki
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This is an excellent example of the difference. Screenshots can give an idea, but the worst problem with the original PSSR was all of the boiling/swimming/speckling you'd see in motion. That seems COMPLETELY gone now, which is fantastic. Honestly the better clarity and detail is just a bonus, I would have been happy without that
I tested out Jedi Survivor and posted a comment earlier. The video comparison of AC Mirage above gives a good idea of the difference. Suffice to say, the boiling/swimming artifacts are completely gone, and it's sharper and more detailed to boot - it looks fantastic.
Gusy
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Avatar is indeed a great showpiece.
If you really want to see what the Pro is capable of with PSSR... PLEASE take a look at TLOU Part I after the prologue. The 1st sequence with Joel and Tess walking in the street in broad daylight
Its the best image quality Ive seen so far coming from a home console and the best example of a great PSSR implementation Ive seen so far.
saintjules
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TLOU 2 from the subreddit
Doctor Hades
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Well, sorry to disagree but there is a lot less ghosting to my eyes with Performance mode than with the PSSR2 forced Quality mode that I tested last night. I'm not saying there isn't any ghosting in Performance mode, just that Quality mode looked significantly worse to the point where I would deem it unplayable. This is kind of ironic because I was using the Quality mode before but now I have to switch to Performance mode to continue my playthrough (unless I keep toggling PSSR2 on/off in the settings depending on the game which isn't something I really want to do).
Maybe the severe ghosting I was seeing with PSSR2 forced in Quality mode in Silent Hill 2 was just in that area and it isn't as bad elsewhere?
Point it is was definitely there and it was the first thing I noticed when I exited the save room into the dark hospital corridor. I'm sure Digital Foundry will do more coverage on this to reveal the pros and cons of the system level PSSR2 but in my opinion it looks like games really need to have PSSR2 patched it to work best. The system level PSSR2 setting is just a bandaid that might work great for most unpatched games using the original PSSR but not all of them.
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