TheLostBigBoss
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that was a pretty negative comment
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Dark Tower: Clashing Visions, Brutal Test Screenings Plagued Journey to Big Screen
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that was a pretty negative comment
hydrophilic attack
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BoogieWoogie
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The Emoji Movie! Ghostbusters! The Meme Movie (no seriously this is happening)
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
The first book is mostly filler and way different than the rest of the series.
Galactic Specter
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How does Rothman keep getting work?
MetroidPrimeRib
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They got that Flatliners reboot and that Jumanji reboot coming!!!!!!!11
BoogieWoogie
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You fail upwards in Hollywood if you're behind the scenes.
hahahaha
God damn. My dad who knows nothing about Stephen King, or any of this, saw the trailer and said right after that it looked like YA garbage. I was trying to explain to him that the movie should be more like a Western but turns out he was right all along.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
It's okay, Stephen. Your check will still clear.
Usually when I've seen The Dark Tower mentioned around here, it's people recommending it because they love the series so much. Of course there are going to be books they like less than others, that's kinda how discussion goes with something that has multiple entries...
Then don't come here.
Bobby Roberts
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This is not Idris Elba's movie.
They did one big test screening at one of the biggest theaters in LA. What they didn't expect was the overwhelmingly negative response to it, and as a result, they destroyed the test cards and tried to pretend that the screening never happened. A reporter caught wind of the test screening being a thing and managed to corroborate enough evidence that it did to get a story out on it, which angered Sony enough to pursue legal action on them. All the while, they did reshoots on the film as late as the week before the film was scheduled to release in order to salvage it from the test screening response.
The book Hit & Run goes into much more detail about this, but the moral of the story is that Peter Guber is one hell of a piece of work when it comes to movie executives. He makes Rothman look like Kevin Feige.
So it truly is focused mainly on Jake? Blah
BoogieWoogie
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It's the kid's movie isn't it? Level with me Bobby.
BlueTsunami
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The first time I saw the trailer I figured this. Shifting the story to the kids perspective and condensing it all. Its gonna be a far worse Midworld Maze Runner.
George Oscar Bluth II
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(Sony Pictures executives collectively tug collars nervously)
Starts strong, falls off a cliff. It's interesting that a lot of it is intertwined throughout his other novels, sometimes more overtly, usually just in the background or briefly. I can say it's an ambitious idea that I don't know has really been done before in the way that he did it, over the period that he did it.
Still, people remember endings, and the general ending is a pretty big misfire in my opinion. The lead up to it wasn't so hot either, and it does sort of sour the entire legacy if you didn't like it.
LordOfLore
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Bobby Roberts
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DizzyCaffeine
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It's got to be McConaughey.
Has anyone noticed how he's barely in the previews? Why hide him, unless...
Has anyone noticed how he's barely in the previews? Why hide him, unless...
Mortimer Brewster
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King is a tough writer to adapt anyway. Very few writers are capable of doing a good adaption. Frank Darabont is one even though he is adapted some of the most narratively sound novella's and novels which helps. Mick Garris managed to do a great job with his mini series adaptations of The Stand and The Langoliers.
I know Warner has been tossing around the idea of adapting the Stand. I think it's possible with the right writer and if they are willing to pony up the budget for 4 140-150 movies filmed the way The Lord of the Rings was. You need a film for the Captain Trips segment, a film for all the survivors to start forming groups and heading to meet either Mother Abigail or Flagg. One film that covers Boulder and Vegas getting up and ready and Harold's betrayal and then one film to cover The Stand itself.
I came off a bit strong, sorry all. Not feeling well this day.
I have a special emotional connection with this work because a few years ago I suffered a bad concussion and was mostly bed bound for a week, with only books on tape to pass the time. (Couldn't stand light, read, any video or screen....) The dark tower series took me in again and it's been special to me since then.
I have a special emotional connection with this work because a few years ago I suffered a bad concussion and was mostly bed bound for a week, with only books on tape to pass the time. (Couldn't stand light, read, any video or screen....) The dark tower series took me in again and it's been special to me since then.
Gunslinger
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Dark tower would work better as a TV show than movie imo.
Can't even muster up a "No".
I think so. I like him, but he needs good material to work for him, he's just one of those kind of actors. His dialogue reads are super cheese in the brief glimpses you do see him. Granted all of the dialogue sounds terrible, but at least Elba is one of those guys who can try to sell anything.
BlueTsunami
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Well it sounds like the film adaptation is gonna take an oy sized dump right on your chest.
Well yeah, give it Westworld budget and let it fly, but sadly that shit won't happen (especially after this movie).
BoogieWoogie
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Now that you mention it, I can't remember one word of dialogue he says besides "Death always wins!"
So, someone thought the best idea for this as a movie would be to completely change the main character. Oof.
" Did you tell him that anyone who walks with you dyyyyyees by my haaand?"
waveuponwave
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This bit from the article probably describes pretty well what they were going for, and it's also why the film doesn't really catch my interest
Good vs evil is certainly part of it, but the grey parts make it interesting. Roland is not really a good guy and the question of how far he would go to reach the Tower hangs over the whole series. It's as much a story about obsession as about the fight for the 'good side'
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Having someone other than Roland be the main character was a smart idea in theory. Roland doesn't have a strong personality and doesn't talk much. Jake is a weird choice though because he doesn't have much of a presence until later on in the series
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
*dissappears into a dark hall*
*Alright alright alright echoes from the depth*
The stoic hero character is still viable. The first movie being a minimal post apocalyptic western could have been made on a shoe string budget too.
-Plasma Reus-
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I feel Fucking sad about this.
The right actors, the blessings of King. Fuck.
It's like wanting a child and getting a child you grow to be disappointed in at the age of 18 because he's in to some anime shit.
The right actors, the blessings of King. Fuck.
It's like wanting a child and getting a child you grow to be disappointed in at the age of 18 because he's in to some anime shit.
BobTheFork
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I'm still not sure who this movie is targeted to.
It seems to happen when you have a property big enough that it has fan dedication but isn't main stream.
Having this be some kind of book 'sequel' isn't for book reader when it's a massively truncated and missing so much of a long journey.
People who haven't read the books aren't going to care about the weight of any of it and it looks like a high concept sci-fi action movie
It's like all those years they wanted to make a DeadPool movie but didn't want the character to be anything like Deadpool from the comics.
I just don't get who this movie is for.
It seems to happen when you have a property big enough that it has fan dedication but isn't main stream.
Having this be some kind of book 'sequel' isn't for book reader when it's a massively truncated and missing so much of a long journey.
People who haven't read the books aren't going to care about the weight of any of it and it looks like a high concept sci-fi action movie
It's like all those years they wanted to make a DeadPool movie but didn't want the character to be anything like Deadpool from the comics.
I just don't get who this movie is for.
NealMcCauley
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Maybe McConaughey saw the character name and called Joaquin to ask for advice on how he played the role.
I haven't read the article but did you hear any of the rumours about the tacked on 'Super happy Scooby Doo' ending?
Of all the rumours I really want this one to be true.
Yep.
Also no Susannah.
I actually might reverse casting here. McConaughey channeling Russ from True Detective for Roland and Idris doing some creepy laughter with his full on British accent for the Man in Black.
Should have been a three season Netflix series with most of the last three books cut out and maybe a new ending.
BoogieWoogie
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Every fucking studio wants a "Cinematic universe" but nobody wants to do the actual work that Marvel did to create one. They want it now, not five movies later, NOW NOW NOW
This movie cost 66 million. It isn't a tent pole.
It's for the same people studios always say it's for when something flops
"it's for the fans"
Even though that's basically never true because they're the ones that would be most critical of it. I get what you're saying though, I've wondered that as well. The whole thing is just sort of an odd decision on every level.
Pls share
Bobby Roberts
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Oh boy
WordAssassin
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There are very few things that will get me heated on a ranting triad like The Dark Tower books but I was actually looking forward to the movie to see if they'd eventually fix the fuck ups that are the last 3 books in the series. The idea that they'd do a loose retelling of the first book to anchor it to the actual continuity/story, and then go off on their own adventures being able to pick and choose what they keep from the books and what they invented, was really kind of exciting to me.
Hey guys we found Stephen King's GAF account
Hey guys we found Stephen King's GAF account
MetroidPrimeRib
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Ok now you are selling me on this movie
BoogieWoogie
Banned
"IT" is going to make a bajillion dollars so calm down Stephen.