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007 First Light: No Path Tracing at Launch & Full PC Requirements
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hououinkyouma00
Member
Keep justifying that 5090 bro
Unknown Soldier
Member
I'm wait and see on this game anyways so getting it on sales if it's good and after the path tracing is patched in is fine by me
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
It's not? But if waiting for it because it was announced to have it, then I'll absolutely wait for it. Same happened with Indiana Jones. I play once. I want best experience.
And they would be better looking had they supported it
Had it been announced that all these games would have path tracing a month or so later than launch, you wouldn't have waited?I'll ask you differently, since when the fuck did playing games day 1 become a requirement?
Wilhelm_85
Gold Member
Looks like I'm waiting for a summer sale, then.
Generally, yeah. Get it for cheaper a bit down the road and in a much better state with bug fixes/stability updates and often more features. With how many awesome games are available, there's no reason to pay full price at launch for anything unless you are really hyped and confident in the quality of the game at release.
Generally, yeah. Get it for cheaper a bit down the road and in a much better state with bug fixes/stability updates and often more features. With how many awesome games are available, there's no reason to pay full price at launch for anything unless you are really hyped and confident in the quality of the game at release.
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viveks86
Gold Member
What the what now?
March Climber
Gold Member
I think it's a Hitman reference.
FalconPunch
Member
Very wrong. In the first screenshot, the color of the flame is white, in the next it's a red hue. Regardless of path tracing or not, the base color of the candles flame should not change. The effect on the scene can change but the color of the flame should not.
Different time of day does not necessarily mean different sun positioning. There's 0 evidence of a dynamic time of day cycle in 007. It wouldn't even make sense to do so for this sort of game. Again the color of the sun light coming in from the window is different. That most certainly cannot be explained by the use of path tracing.
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MacReady13
Member
Glad to know that some of us actually PLAY games and are less concerned about some lighting/shadows/reflections etc over how the game plays. Digital Foundry has fucked up so many minds with their over analysis its not funny. Just enjoy the game wherever you are playing it ffs.
viveks86
Gold Member
Firstly do you agree that the chandelier is pink or not? You had originally typed "color of the frame" and then edited it to "color of the flame" while I was preparing a response, so I'm making sure I understand your challenge. But in either case, you are wrong. Neither the frame is white nor the flame's hue is red. Let's dive into it
The chandelier is pink. It's a pink frame/fixture, just poorly self-lit as RTGI has limited bounce lighting (likely just 1 or 2 bounces) which isn't sufficient for complex geometry like a chandelier. Here's the original RTGI screenshot zoomed in. It's still pink. Not white
Here's what happens to it when you increase saturation and nothing else, if it's hard to tell above:
If that's a white chandelier, saturation would not suddenly make it pink. It would either stay white or turn yellow like the rest of the image.
PT is simply bringing out colors that aren't showing with a single bounce and getting lit incorrectly due to limited bounces.
It doesn't. The flame color is still bright yellow (almost white). What is changing is the chandelier lighting itself up and its pink color dominating the area. If you look at the flame itself it's neither pink nor red. Just yellow. I urge you to do a real analysis before jumping to all these conclusions. Notice how the pink area i circled above is now consistent across the entire chandelier, due to PT. That's all there is to it. Accurate self-lighting.
What is "time of day" in a game if not sun positioning? This is just more theories without presenting any actual evidence. The room is not painted in white. It is full of rich hues. Obviously PT would make it all look different. It's not even all that better, to be honest. Just different as it is more accurate to the scene by its nature.
Again, the reason I presented it is to say PT is NOT making much of an impact as RTGI is already pretty damn good. It seems like you are just fixated on dismissing PT instead of seeking the truth. Present real evidence with screengrabs if you still disagree and want to continue this debate.
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1000% the only thing i give a shit about is frame rate.
Durin
Member
And these larger devs/publishers wonder why more users are just waiting later to pick up games on sale...
It's not going to ruin the game or anything, but it's just another example that devalues the day one experience to feeling more like early access.
Which hey, if you pre-order the game they'll give you artificial early access to play the game 24 hours sooner
It's not going to ruin the game or anything, but it's just another example that devalues the day one experience to feeling more like early access.
Which hey, if you pre-order the game they'll give you artificial early access to play the game 24 hours sooner
phant0m
Member
Most people couldn't tell the difference if that shit wasn't broken down frame by frame.
Anyway, very stoked for my Golden Gun CE. Hope the game is good too but
Gonzito
Gold Member
Gay Take
Path Tracing is superior to Raytracing, I want to play the game for the first time with the best graphics and not having to wait 3 months to do it
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
The amount of complain I see about graphics, I'm starting to think this game might have good gameplay.
Its pattern I start to see in GAF, most of the time when I see GAF complain about graphics the game has good gameplay but when I see GAF happy about the graphics the game has mediocre gameplay....good example (Order 1886)
Its pattern I start to see in GAF, most of the time when I see GAF complain about graphics the game has good gameplay but when I see GAF happy about the graphics the game has mediocre gameplay....good example (Order 1886)
viveks86
Gold Member
Who is complaining about the graphics though? It's a beautiful game with or without path tracing. People are just complaining that a feature they were looking forward to, that they built a gaming rig for, is getting delayed. Just because you don't care, no one should?
Doesn't affect me either way as I don't have a gaming PC, so I'm not complaining, but it seems a bit unfair to say no one should complain about delays of features already advertised… it's a pretty natural reaction!
Gonzito
Gold Member
Nobody is complaining about graphics. We are a complaining about a feature that was advertised left and right everywhere not being available at launch
C'mon man
Thebonehead
Gold Member
I remember Atomic Heart not getting ray tracing at launch. Soon, they said.
I'll wait I thought.
By the time the ray tracing patch dropped 18 months later I'd lost any interest in the game.
I'll wait I thought.
By the time the ray tracing patch dropped 18 months later I'd lost any interest in the game.
Gonzito
Gold Member
Do you understand that this game is being made by the Hitman Developers? Those guys are extremely talented. If there is any chance to get a good 007 game, this is the game
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I mean, Blood Stone was really good, even if overall production values weren't the best.
You've read the dev interview where he said that they're makiing bond for the "modern audiences" right? So i would be really careful and wait till people have actually played the game
VolticArchangel
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BeardSpike
Member
Their next game after 007 is a Fantasy game apparently.
IO Interactive's Project Fantasy Is In a "Very Healthy Space"
IO Interactive's CEO has confirmed that their new online fantasy RPG IP, Project Fantasy, is in a safe place.
insider-gaming.com
So we will wait for Agent 47 return probably a bit more unfortunately...
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CentralScrutinizer
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This is the most "wait for a $20 sale this fall when GTA drops and publishers are desperate to move product this Black Friday" game ever.
TRL88
Member
Waste full price now and get a lesser game or wait a year or two and get a complete game for less than half the price? Have modern devs and publishers completely lost it? And they wonder why more and more people don't support them day one anymore like it said in that article from a couple of days ago? They should've just not announced support of it, if they couldn't get it ready for launch...
