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$1000 console? I'm out. official boycott thread
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Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Imagine how badly people today would've been traumatized by a neo geo in the 90s and 3DO which was a pretty 750 bucks back in 1993
Lokaum D+
Gold Member
thats why we dont have neogeo 5 or 3DO 5
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
3DO to this day still hurts my soul
Durin
Member
I have doubts that the next consoles will force a price-point that high, especially Sony where they should remember the $600 PS3 back then screwed them.
If it's truly difficult to get parts that make enough of a difference below that price-point, I wouldn't be surprised if we see another Xbox Series S device designed for people who they don't want to price out of their ecosystem.
If people don't buy the hardware, they'll find a way to drop it, because console makers only make actual money when you buy games, the hardware is just a vessel to get to that.
If it's truly difficult to get parts that make enough of a difference below that price-point, I wouldn't be surprised if we see another Xbox Series S device designed for people who they don't want to price out of their ecosystem.
If people don't buy the hardware, they'll find a way to drop it, because console makers only make actual money when you buy games, the hardware is just a vessel to get to that.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
People just can't live without a boogeyman I'm convinced. Let the time come and see what it brings, I feel it'll be under 1000 bucks but to me 1000 bucks for 5 6 years worth of entertainment is fine, I love gaming so I'll buy whatever.
My 4090 was 1900 bucks.
I'd bet 749.99 or 799.99
My 4090 was 1900 bucks.
I'd bet 749.99 or 799.99
playbignbox
Member
It's not worth it, you're better off building a PC. Even if it costs more upfront, you can use it for a lot more than just gaming, games are cheaper, you don't have to pay for online play, and you get access to tons of accessories, emulators, and other options.
Hadoukens
Member
You realize mocking someone who can't realistically afford gaming anymore is just going to make people frustrated with you and perhaps turn them off more, right? I sure hope so.
Now, the inflation thing which I hear all the time, is a ridiculous argument; cost of living has gone up substantially more than the average person's salary.
Follow me here. If a console was $400 then and is a lot more now, but cost of living has gone up substantially faster than salaries have, then their purchasing power has likely gone significantly DOWN since the Saturn years, and that's not even counting new costs and financial responsibilities later in life.
Inflation is a non-starter argument because Cost of Living and Average Salaries are nowhere near inflation. Things are WORSE, not better. So the vast majority isn't capable of saying "oh yeah, inflation, I'll buy it!"
Majority of people that buy consoles, aside from price is also ease of use, plug and play. You have to have some sort of knowledge to build and setup a PC properly. This is why i think, despite not having high/high end specs, the Steam machine will be incredibly important.
TrebleShot
Member
1k for a Fortnite , EAFC and COD box. mad bro , absolutely mad.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
My issue with pc gaming today is to really hang you need top end gpus and after I spent close to 2k on my 4090 fe I realized I wasn't enjoying pc gaming like I used to, plus they don't optimize as good anymore it seems.
But I've been doing the whole pc scene for 30+ years now, it's gotten less fun every year. At that point where consoles closed the gap enough to where it's just so much closer it's doable.
I just don't give a crap anymore about modding etc so it's just an easy choice for me and I'm pretty happy with that.
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SoloCamo
Member
If it's Nvidia tech it'd be $2000.
No you don't and I've been gaming on the PC since the 90's as well. You just need to have the high end if you expect to max out everything.. I've been playing at 4k since 2014 (Asus PB287Q) on the PC and yea I had high end hardware to do it (AMD 290X at the time). However over the years 4k is much more attainable and 1080p-1440p? Easy these days for a majority of hardware.
I'm on a vanilla 9070 now coming from a 6900XT and I've had no problem with 4k because I'm willing to adjust visual settings (which old me would have hated). That and to be quite frank I find most of the UE slop unoptimized games to be absolutely awful anyways.
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If you enjoy games as a whole and can afford the hobby. You probably have all platforms of games you want to play. My 9800x3D / 5090 has been unused for some time. Switch 2 and Ps5 Pro have been taking most of my game time. But absolutely enjoy all 3 platforms.
Bernardougf
Member
Sure... the xbox one x version trough BC.
It will play the next gen version of MLB ? Only if comes to pc ...
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Perhaps, regardless I don't think it's anywhere near as accessible as it used to be you used to get way more bang/performance for your buck
I personally always buy top end gpus when they dropped, and I enjoyed it but 2k for a 4090 finally just felt lame
PatientGamer
Member
That's what voting for a dictator to run your country does.. they start wars for no reason, driving up prices for everything you know and love.
You're welcome.
On a serious note, people will get their dick out for anything Apple produce at any cost - but a $1k console? How expensive does it cost to build a machine of equivalent specs? $2k-$3k+?
You're welcome.
On a serious note, people will get their dick out for anything Apple produce at any cost - but a $1k console? How expensive does it cost to build a machine of equivalent specs? $2k-$3k+?
xanaum
Member
It just means MLB The Show will start being released on PC through the Xbox app. Even though everything was shown, it's pretty obvious that development for the new Xbox will be the same as PC, especially based on what Microsoft said at GDC: you build for the next Xbox by developing for PC. This debate should've been settled by now.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
I buy it all for sure I just find that I love platinums so it's been my choice as of late and eats up most of my time, my switch 2 and pc just take a back seat... Sorta how I been rolling these days. But Im good with it.
Meicyn
Member
Two things:
1. I'm not mocking someone's inability to afford something, I'm mocking the premise of wanting Sega to come to the rescue when they were nickel and diming on hardware back in the 90s. It's part of why the brand died, marketing insanely expensive attachments only to abandon them quickly. In the span of 10 years, Sega released the Genesis, Sega CD, 32X, Saturn, and Dreamcast. That's a lot of money just as a starting point. Which leads me to...
2. Building off that, almost every game that released from Sega back in the 90s cost $60, or $120+ in today's money. And these were primarily smaller scale games that were quick to beat. Phantasy Star 4 debuted for an actual $100 back then, over $200 in today's cash. Where is Sega, indeed.
If you can't afford something, no problem. If someone wants to boycott paying high prices for something, go for it. I practice this myself all the time. I buy movies when they're discounted, not at full price (like Zootopia 2 which I paid $10 for yesterday). I buy my clothes at Goodwill. But OP consistently brings up Sega in threads, making them out to be some kind of lost savior that we need back in the hardware industry when their departure happened entirely because of ripping off their customers via expensive hardware!
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
We don't know what version it will play at this point, next gen or previous gen
I do know which version I can play on any PC right now though
And obviously all this changes if they announce a PC version next year which I highly doubt
MayauMiao
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cabbage5k2
Member
Ask Target that question.
MrJangles
Member
I'd eat dogshit before handing over $1000 to buy an Xbox or Playstation.
I'd pay $2000 for a Dreamcast 2 though
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
Never say never. Sega patented an anti-drift controller in 2024, so why would a software company do that ? And they've been getting closer to Nvidia, and Nvidia has a joint venture with Intel, and Intel was rejected by Sony in the PS6 project.I'd pay $2000 for a Dreamcast 2 though
Starcheif
Member
Sony and MS cant even keep the current gen consoles from going up in price. What do you think that means for the future of console pricing? $$$$$
Plus major AI companies and cloud providers are consuming vast amounts of storage for training and operating large AI models causing the price of drives to be crazy high.
Plus major AI companies and cloud providers are consuming vast amounts of storage for training and operating large AI models causing the price of drives to be crazy high.
SoloCamo
Member
Agreed there, people are absolutely being priced out of PC gaming simply because the lower / midrange GPU's are hardly worth it anymore, especially when they are going for near enough high end prices from not so long ago.
I set a hard cap over a decade ago to never drop more than $500 for a gpu. Factoring inflation I've bumped that window up to $700 but even my recent 9070 purchase was $560. Helps that I also typically stay on the same platform for 4-5 years at least.
Aside from like 1-2 modern games a year (typically BF / Forza) my PC ends up playing games that are 20 years old... 2k for a 4090 is simply lame, the card is amazing but it leaves a sour taste in your mouth spending that much. I can buy a 5090 but I just can't justify it as I'd have buyers remorse after a week.
Hadoukens
Member
1. I read it as wishful thinking and frustration. Your choice of words read as mocking even if that wasn't the intent.
2. Saturn games msrp was $50. Lots of quick price drops and I think Astal and Bug were $40 iirc.
Yeah Sega isn't going to save us. Retro hardware or emulation or handhelds are probably the way to go if one doesn't want a Switch or Switch 2. Maybe Steam box.
Humdinger
Gold Member
Boycotts in the gaming world rarely work. In fact, I can't remember one that actually did work.
It's not like Sony and Microsoft are going to be swayed by an online petition signed by a few hundred gamers. Their prices are set by all sorts of internal and external expectations. Remember that most of the time, they're already taking a loss on the hardware, so you'd just be asking them to take an even bigger loss.
It's not like Sony and Microsoft are going to be swayed by an online petition signed by a few hundred gamers. Their prices are set by all sorts of internal and external expectations. Remember that most of the time, they're already taking a loss on the hardware, so you'd just be asking them to take an even bigger loss.
Bernardougf
Member
Apparently having the Iphone argument is a big nono here... go figure.
TexMex
Member
The payment plan doesn't make something cost less, and beyond that, you can put a new console (or anything) on a payment plan if you wanted to. Not seeing how that makes the point any different.
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mrpants
Member
I used to have one of this, it is actually quite fun to play withFound a cheap alternative
Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
If something were going on, my guess would be that they would use an Nvidia GPU and an Intel CPU; think of it as a next-generation Switch 2. Nintendo Switch 2 is certainly sold at cost price; Sega can make a better one, without a screen, and sell it for the same price, maybe a few dollars more. The total cost of producing and marketing a console isn't very expensive; the only truly difficult task is attracting consumers. Console consumers are tribal and don't usually abandon an established brand in favor of a new competitor.
MagusMajul
Member
i would by a steam bot for 1k if the specs were good
Shogmaster
Sloppy seconds
YEAH! Let's go to Temu and buy Playstayshun 6 instead for only $69.99!
EverydayBeast
ChatShitGPT Alpha 0.001
It's called technology, there's a reason why the minute you leave best buy with a new hot piece of technology it's price automatically lowers, it's because new versions are already being made.
SoloCamo
Member
A gpu from 2020 is hardly the same as one from 2026, let alone a $5000 one. It can do far more than just game too.
People that change phone's yearly do it because they just want the latest and great. I only got a proper high end phone exactly a year ago with my S25+ 512gb but by switching providers it was literally free (ok $3 per month + the plan because I upgraded to the 512gb over a 256gb). You also carry the phone with you all day and it serves a ridiculous amount of purposes and sadly is crucial to modern daily life.
A console is literally just a toy. And I don't mean that in a negative way, but when you factor in price a 1,000 toy is quite expensive.
simpatico
Gold Member
When you think about it, handheld bro's won the console war. We all got bamboozled. The 3DS faithful. Humbling forgoing graphics for low power consumption and sensible ergonomics. Slow and steady. Now, every head in the kingdom bows to the handheld form factor. Nintendo reverse Voltroned into a handheld only company. Microsoft bent the knee. Sony has been trying for decades, the poor guy. Valve even had to make an offering to the micro-gods. A handheld seems a lot more doable for a company like Sega. Especially if it's just a SEGA Deck with an extra port to run exclusives.
Shadowstar39
Member
Look at all the apologists and sony/Xbox bootlickers... Jeeze. Ps3 was 600 and people through a fit. Sony corrected course but you folks can't live without some negligible graphics update that isn't even needed?
I'm still on base ps5 using 1080p and love it. I also am not planning on upgrading gpu as my 3060ti for 1080p is good enough. I hope by the time it's needed prices will drop.
Some here talk like the $500 we had to pay for ps5 was 1980s prices get out of here with that gaslighting. 1980s prices was $99 ans it came with 2 games. 2 controllers and a zapper. Parents were able to afford it and not feel bad. Neo geo was what no one had but rich fucks. Same with 3do and the cd add-ons for 16bit systems.
Sorry but this is all lunacy. Somethings got to give. Why aren't our governments pushing laws to fix this or new companies making more ram? Do all the people in congress too old to know what's even going on? Probably its crazy. Ai and greedy companies are destroying the world.
I'm still on base ps5 using 1080p and love it. I also am not planning on upgrading gpu as my 3060ti for 1080p is good enough. I hope by the time it's needed prices will drop.
Some here talk like the $500 we had to pay for ps5 was 1980s prices get out of here with that gaslighting. 1980s prices was $99 ans it came with 2 games. 2 controllers and a zapper. Parents were able to afford it and not feel bad. Neo geo was what no one had but rich fucks. Same with 3do and the cd add-ons for 16bit systems.
Sorry but this is all lunacy. Somethings got to give. Why aren't our governments pushing laws to fix this or new companies making more ram? Do all the people in congress too old to know what's even going on? Probably its crazy. Ai and greedy companies are destroying the world.
Shadowstar39
Member
And only rich fucks had it. I knew no one. It was a myth system. At least I had a tg16 which was also no one but me had but that was $99.
I make 45k a year and have a family (wife make 40k) fuck this we aren't all loaded.
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Hadoukens
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Ages ago I bought an i7 8th gen Intel.
A few years back I bought an i5 11400 for a second PC. They have nearly identical performance, but the 11400 was hundreds cheaper.
This is what I personally would want next-gen consoles to mimic; cut prices big time but keep performance almost entirely the same.
I know I'm in the minority here because this is an enthusiast forum, but in reality there just haven't been enough must-buy current gen games to justify the price, and most devs can't even push these systems as hard as a select few of the big boys can.
So rather than boost prices to obscene levels and limit the market, my minority opinion is use newer, cheaper tech, keep performance about the same, so there's still people buying, and give devs time to catch up.
A few years back I bought an i5 11400 for a second PC. They have nearly identical performance, but the 11400 was hundreds cheaper.
This is what I personally would want next-gen consoles to mimic; cut prices big time but keep performance almost entirely the same.
I know I'm in the minority here because this is an enthusiast forum, but in reality there just haven't been enough must-buy current gen games to justify the price, and most devs can't even push these systems as hard as a select few of the big boys can.
So rather than boost prices to obscene levels and limit the market, my minority opinion is use newer, cheaper tech, keep performance about the same, so there's still people buying, and give devs time to catch up.
Joe Cool
Gold Member
And while I totally agree with you and I am on board...the whales, fanboys, and scalpers will still buy out available corpo stock and thus the corpos will learn nothing. If they make 10,000 consoles and sell them for $1,000 each, and they sell out... You can see where this is going.