Wendel Clark
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OOS?
edit0 im dumb as f
$300 is the lowest in Canada. :-(
edit0 im dumb as f
$300 is the lowest in Canada. :-(
120/144Hz Thread of Lightboosting Pixel Perfect Headshots
- Thread starter mkenyon
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Good haha. Ordered it. Just hope they get it in stock soon!
Out of stock. And Canada gets totally boned on prices/availability.
I have been having a hell of a time with my BenQ XL2420T since I got an SSD and tried a new windows install. On my fresh install trying to set 120hz sends the monitor to a black no signal screen that will not reset itself on timeout, second monitor is there but no mouse cursor. Swap my drives back around to my original setup and 120hz 1080p lightboost is working fine.
I have tried getting the inf file from windows update, the install disc, and some futzed around one from a forum all with the same results. I have disabled lightboost while on the "good" OS, reset the monitor, rebooted, and still had the problem.
Does anyone have any idea about setting up this monitor on a fresh windows install? Its just not working for me.
I have tried getting the inf file from windows update, the install disc, and some futzed around one from a forum all with the same results. I have disabled lightboost while on the "good" OS, reset the monitor, rebooted, and still had the problem.
Does anyone have any idea about setting up this monitor on a fresh windows install? Its just not working for me.
Simplify your configuration. Only connect the XL2420T and make sure to use Dual-Link DVI or DisplayPort only. This just sounds like the timings for the mode you're trying to set are not appropriate for the display. Any inf files you might be using could be confusing the issue, as they're not needed at all. The capabilities of the display will be known through EDID communication between the GPU and the display.
I advise you to use the same GPU driver version as your working install. If you have a NVIDIA GPU, you could use NVCP to set a custom resolution like 1920x1079 @ 120 Hz and see if it's able to display it. I'm not sure of how to accomplish this if you have an AMD GPU I'm afraid.
Thanks for the advice, I gave it a shot but do not have luck yet.
Fresh install of windows 7 done with only the XL2420T plugged in by dual link dvi. Installed current non beta nvidia drivers and I can go up to 1920x1080@100hz.
Setting the screen to 120hz even at custom resolution as 1079 goes black screen for quite awhile. I am back to an active screen after a driver crash though(took a few minutes of black screen cycling no signal and red power lights)
Windows resolution tool shows "Generic PNP monitor" and won't let me hide modes that it cannot display.
The GPU driver actually crashes? Hmm, have you tried using EVGA precision/MSI Afterburner/Nvidia Inspector to make sure the GPU clocks are default? If there's somehow an over-clock being applied under this new install, it could crashing the GPU driver.
Wendel Clark
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Canada: xl2411z for $279
it's been $299 for a little while and will be for the whole month on NCIX, this is the cheapest I've seen it.
it's been $299 for a little while and will be for the whole month on NCIX, this is the cheapest I've seen it.
Kit Guru posted a review of the Asus ROG Swift PG278Q: http://www.kitguru.net/peripherals/...-144hz-g-sync-monitor-w-gtx-780ti-rog-matrix/
Should be available late July according to this page: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news...g-swift-pg278q-w-g-sync-support-priced-dated/
Should be available late July according to this page: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news...g-swift-pg278q-w-g-sync-support-priced-dated/
So I've bought the VG278HR and it's pretty awesome. The difference is huge compared to a 60hz panel. But I have 2 questions:
1. The VG278HR shows me in the menu 143Hz (or 145Hz when I switch from 60Hz couple of times). But never 144Hz. Is that a failure or is it normal? It's just 1Hz but I had the VG278HE model (2 actually) before and it always showed me 144Hz. Returned both because of clouding and a pixel failure.
2. It also has a blue line in darker scenes.
Reason to return it? Probably a stupid question but it's my third monitor and each had a "failure". Should I accept it because there are no monitors without any issues?
1. The VG278HR shows me in the menu 143Hz (or 145Hz when I switch from 60Hz couple of times). But never 144Hz. Is that a failure or is it normal? It's just 1Hz but I had the VG278HE model (2 actually) before and it always showed me 144Hz. Returned both because of clouding and a pixel failure.
2. It also has a blue line in darker scenes.
Reason to return it? Probably a stupid question but it's my third monitor and each had a "failure". Should I accept it because there are no monitors without any issues?
This is really kind of a dumb question with no real good answer, but anyone run their 144Hz monitor at 120Hz all the time? Thinking about just setting mine to that for no since some of the games I play drop to around 120 FPS enough that it hurts the overall smoothness a bit. If I change it, do i need to adjust the picture settings or lightboost settings or anything?
Depends on the monitor in question. My VG248QE doesn't support 144 Hz with lightboost through the ToastyX tool.
Though I'm having a tough time believing that a drop to 8.3ms frametimes is noticeable
Jesus yea. That looks awful and is more than just a minor flaw.
Depends on the monitor in question. My VG248QE doesn't support 144 Hz with lightboost through the ToastyX tool.
Though I'm having a tough time believing that a drop to 8.3ms frametimes is noticeable
Hah, it honestly might just be in my head, I really don't know. But I've been getting into BF4 a lot lately and its pretty much permanently in the 120's, and Titanfall drops down a lot on some maps, so I figured I should just drop it 120.
I have the BenQ XL2411Z, which AFAIK supports strobing down to 60Hz (I can notice the slight flickering in some games which are locked to 60Hz, like Super Mat Boy).
Are you sure that you're running Titanfall at 120 fps? Last I knew it was still locked unless you run it with vsync, which of course fucks up the input something fierce.
According to MSI Afterburner I am. But beyond that, I really don't know hahah. It "feels" like its smoother than 60FPS but maybe its just placebo and I'm crazy? I'm pretty sure I have VSYNC on, though.
That's probably why it feels like crap then. It's not an issue with framerate drop, it's an issue with stupid high input lag.
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thepotatoman
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ASUS ROG Swift PG278Q Monitor Released in APAC/EU, North America Coming September
All these 1 or 2 month delays on that thing are killing me. Hopefully September will finally be the month it comes out here.
All these 1 or 2 month delays on that thing are killing me. Hopefully September will finally be the month it comes out here.
Yes, I'm gonna return it, played a little more HL2 and it's annoying. Amazon won't be happy.
Bucket-o-roadkill
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Just read this thread from the start, intriguing stuff considering I'm now very much in the market for a new monitor. I think the BenQ XL2411Z is what I'm leaning towards BUT I want to guarantee one with v2 firmware.. Are there any v1s still in the wild? I'm in the UK so was looking at either ccl or Amazon.. They're both the cheapest as far as I can tell. Am I doing the right thing or should I go for the Asus.
Has anyone tried Eizo refurbs in the EU?
They're selling their FG2421 for the price of the Asus from OP or the entrance BenQ's.
I'm tempted to try them out as it seems like a solid first screen for my first PC which as the OP states is between the TN refresh rate and the IPS colors.
They're selling their FG2421 for the price of the Asus from OP or the entrance BenQ's.
I'm tempted to try them out as it seems like a solid first screen for my first PC which as the OP states is between the TN refresh rate and the IPS colors.
Direct EIZO French Store
Here you go! They have a few in stock and I might pick one up, just noticed they don't deliver out of France for now unless a rep can get back to me after the weekend.
Here you go! They have a few in stock and I might pick one up, just noticed they don't deliver out of France for now unless a rep can get back to me after the weekend.
Hey guys, I have two questions:
1. What's the benefit of a 120hz / 144hz monitor if I don't have a GPU capable of running games consistently over 60fps?
I've also never been that sensitive to frame-rates or motion blur, electing to play non-twitch games (Skyrim, for example) at 30fps with v-sync.
Even twitch games I've never had any issues at 60 with v sync. I guess v-sync introduces lag but I've never noticed it.
2. What's the best 120 / 144 monitor under $300? I notice the OP hasn't been updated since November.
Thanks! I made this thread about other possible monitors if you want to weigh in.
1. What's the benefit of a 120hz / 144hz monitor if I don't have a GPU capable of running games consistently over 60fps?
I've also never been that sensitive to frame-rates or motion blur, electing to play non-twitch games (Skyrim, for example) at 30fps with v-sync.
Even twitch games I've never had any issues at 60 with v sync. I guess v-sync introduces lag but I've never noticed it.
2. What's the best 120 / 144 monitor under $300? I notice the OP hasn't been updated since November.
Thanks! I made this thread about other possible monitors if you want to weigh in.
1. Your 760 is plenty capable of running most games over 60 fps. Otherwise, the only thing it would help with is reducing the visibility of tearing.
2. VG248QE or BenQ XL2411Z.
Might be a better place to ask then i need a new pc thread.
I need some help with picking out a new monitor.
I'm moving and leaving behind my 55" tv on which I had PC connected, but will bring my old 24" benq monitor which feels so small now but I'll get used to smaller screen, what always bothered me was the colors didn't look vibrant at all so I'm gonna just use it as 2nd monitor.
I was thinking about buying some TV but after researching decided on monitor. What I know is I want at least 24" but would prefer 27", not sure about 1440p, I think I want 120hz and IPS panel. I really want good looking colors, tired of washed out look on my monitor and using this new tv for past few months have been refreshing, but then again I barely gamed on it mostly movies and tv shows but huge difference there. 3D wouldn't hurt either but not required I guess, just got used to downloading anything 3D ever since I've got 3d capable tv last year.
Besides regular PC use and gaming on PC I also plan on using the monitor for ps3/360 and PS4 once I buy it next year, and of course to watch movies/tv shows which I probably do more than gaming at this point, but that might change.
So what are your recommendations? Price range, not sure, cheaper the better but wouldn't sacrifice quality for bit less $.
P.S. Korean monitors are interesting been reading a bit about it but not sure if I could use them for consoles :\
I need some help with picking out a new monitor.
I'm moving and leaving behind my 55" tv on which I had PC connected, but will bring my old 24" benq monitor which feels so small now but I'll get used to smaller screen, what always bothered me was the colors didn't look vibrant at all so I'm gonna just use it as 2nd monitor.
I was thinking about buying some TV but after researching decided on monitor. What I know is I want at least 24" but would prefer 27", not sure about 1440p, I think I want 120hz and IPS panel. I really want good looking colors, tired of washed out look on my monitor and using this new tv for past few months have been refreshing, but then again I barely gamed on it mostly movies and tv shows but huge difference there. 3D wouldn't hurt either but not required I guess, just got used to downloading anything 3D ever since I've got 3d capable tv last year.
Besides regular PC use and gaming on PC I also plan on using the monitor for ps3/360 and PS4 once I buy it next year, and of course to watch movies/tv shows which I probably do more than gaming at this point, but that might change.
So what are your recommendations? Price range, not sure, cheaper the better but wouldn't sacrifice quality for bit less $.
P.S. Korean monitors are interesting been reading a bit about it but not sure if I could use them for consoles :\
Well you're going to need HDMI for console usage so that rules out using one of those Korean b-stock PLS exclusively, although they are very nice for PC usage. I would suggest to you as well that 1080p looks worse on 27" monitors, you end up paying around a one hundred dollar premium for a lower pixel density and more apparent color banding. Ultimately you can just move your display further or closer away from your face with a desktop monitor anyway, so I think the extra 3" of diagonal length isn't worth it. A lot of folks here seem to fancy 3d-capable TN panels because of lightboost, but depending upon the games you play the strobing may cause too much input lag to be useful. I'd recommend a 1080p 24" IPS for console usage and one of the ~$300 B-grade Samsung PLS panels for PC gaming. 1440p and 96hz is more enjoyable than 1080p 144hz, in my opinion.
The best you can do with those priorities is Eizo FG2421. 120hz w/low persistence, VA panel for much better blacks/contrast than IPS which is pretty important for movies and dark games. Equivalent viewing angles. 24", no 3D. Pricy but worth it.
So?? Update us, dude
Love my Eizo to bits, I can never go back to a low contrast TN or IPS. Next stop: 4k OLED. Urgh, the wait for the arrival and the price drops will be a looong one.
You're right, I just read a bit about consoles and them and I see most can't do it properly or at all, well fuck. Your recommendation is what I'm mostly thinking about now but would need to research a bit and could use some recommendations, and the price of that ips would be a big factor.
Or maybe the new asus rog but 800 eur qq although if I go the way I mentioned above that would probably end up costing the same or more..
So I should get some good IPS 27" 1440p panel (that hopefully has scaler and use it for all my needs until I can get a good and cheaper 120/144hz secondary screen which I'll use mostly for my PC games, or when I do enough research about Korean monitors order one just for PC while I keep other one for rest? Is this the best course of action? And if so what are some good ones?
fifasnipe2224
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So is the general consensus 120 light boost > 144?
Cizeta-Moroder
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Yes, I don't think it's argued much.
If you can hold a firm 120fps, then absolutely.
bodine1231
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I know alot of people sing the benifits of 144hz for fast paced shooters and competive games,but what about slower/single player games? I'm thinking of upcoming games like Shadows of Mordor,Borderlands Pre Sequel and Witcher 3,etc. Do games like that greatly benefit from the higher refresh vs larger higher res screens?
Right now I'm deciding between a LG 34um95 and Rog Swift. The problem with getting a ROG is that I'll have to switch from a r9 290 to an Nvidia card which will add to the cost. I don't play online competitive games,just mostly single player stuff.
Right now I'm deciding between a LG 34um95 and Rog Swift. The problem with getting a ROG is that I'll have to switch from a r9 290 to an Nvidia card which will add to the cost. I don't play online competitive games,just mostly single player stuff.
It's really subjective. I find the improved illusion of motion from a high refresh rate better for everything. So much so, that I'm not even really interested in buying a Rift until the refresh rate goes higher.
There's people who far prefer the colors/contrast of big fancy IPS/VA panels, or the wide screen immersion of the ultrawide stuff.
But give me dat refresh rate. Always.
There's people who far prefer the colors/contrast of big fancy IPS/VA panels, or the wide screen immersion of the ultrawide stuff.
But give me dat refresh rate. Always.
fifasnipe2224
Member
mkenyon - What monitor do you use?
Primary is a VG248QE with AG film removed, and G-Sync DIY kit. Secondary is a BenQ XL2420T, and before that, a Samsung S23A750D.
Stevey
Member
I use a BenQ XL2420T and every game looks better at 144hz than 60hz
ss_lemonade
Member
Don't know if this has been answered before but are other/newer monitors free from the color issues that affect the vg248qe when using lightboost or any other similar blur killing trick? I always wondered if this was just a problem specific to this monitor or if its some limitation with the panel at high refresh rates or something
legacyzero
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I own the ASUS VG248QE. It's totally amazing.
bodine1231
Member
I went ahead with the Asus VG248QE from Amazon just to taste 144hz. I'll probably end up returning it because I want the higher end LG or Swift. I need to see for myself if the smoothness is worth the color/real estate of the LG.
This. It does not matter what pace the game is, everything looks incredible. Even your desktop, lol.
fifasnipe2224
Member
Any 27" lightboost you guys word recommend? Also how card would it be to find one with gsync? I hear there aren't many gsync monitors out there.
Stevey
Member
Yeah, the first time I used it, just on the desktop, the cursor moves around so much smoother, it really is that much of a difference.
The only commercially available G-Sync monitors are the RoG Swift and AoC 24".
fifasnipe2224
Member
Hows about http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009657 ? Bit high in price though.
I seem to be leaning towards BenQ XL2720T.
I seem to be leaning towards BenQ XL2720T.
bodine1231
Member
I was looking at that one too,but was asked this question: "Do you think a 1080p monitor is worth $600?" For me it was an easy 'no'.
fifasnipe2224
Member
Agreed. So any input on the BenQ XL2720Z or L2720T??
Dave_6
Member
Now that I have a Gigabyte G1 970 on the way, I need to find one of those G-Sync kits for my VG248QE. Every time I look on Nvidia's site they don't have them though.