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[Toons]

Why have you typed him in italics?

You adding fuel to the culture war? As if there isn't enough burning already.

Because this is going to be their scapegoat so they can dance around the issue. This is how they operate. Find any angle to attack the persons traits to blame despite the fact its been made very clear that any and all walks of life can and will do this and they will almost all use firearms to do so.

 

[daveonezero]

Absolutely sickening.



Serious question as a non US citizen, but what could change to stop further attacks like this?

Don’t leave kids in a vulnerable centralized place. More decentralized schools in easier to protect locations.

Big schools where strangers can just walk in is the problem. Schoolls shouldn’t be bigger than 150 where all the faculty can recognize everyone that should and should not be there.

Large campuses with 100s of kids and dozens of faculty and just as many entries is a security nightmare.

The school system In The US is basically daycare and it needs to change for a number of reasons and one big one is school violence and lackluster academics.

A Federal plan doesn’t work for the amount of diversity that exists in this country. The federal government was never supposed to institute policy to all the states. It’s supposed to be up to the state.

 

[BigBooper]

Was there anything relevant to the shooter that should have been flagged when they went to buy a gun? Maybe a mental illness?

 

[InfiniteCombo]

Was there anything relevant to the shooter that should have been flagged when they went to buy a gun? Maybe a mental illness?

Details are sparse on the perpetrator. At this rate we won't find out anything meaningful until tomorrow at the earliest.

 

[Toons]

haven’t read much from the founders of the USA have you?

You mean those dudes that came uninvited, killed more children than this guy did, massacred innocents and stole their land?

Have you considered maybe we shouldn't be going to them for advice?

 

[Buggy Loop]

haven’t read much from the founders of the USA have you?

Letting god take the steering wheel in the 21st century, a god-given right, is laughable. I don't need to know more than that to know it's about fucking time you bulldoze the fucking thing and start again with common sense.

 

[BennyBlanco]

He also said "I've spent my career fighting [for] common sense gun laws." I get it, this is a midterm year. But DUDE, for this one second, this shit ain't about you. It's about this tragedy and what can be done, now, to try to mitigate future tragedies like this. At least finish paying your respects before you engage on "campaign trail" nonsense. I swear, politicians can be the sleaziest bunch (I don't care about the affiliation of politicians, both sides engage in this kind of nonsense.)

Fuckin A man. It's obnoxious. Expect a ton of politicians to try to score points off this during the week.

 

[haxan7]

Letting god take the steering wheel in the 21st century, a god-given right, is laughable. I don't need to know more than that to know it's about fucking time you bulldoze the fucking thing and start again with common sense.

You know so little you don’t even know how little you know.

God-given means exactly the same thing whether you acknowledge a creator or not. It means it’s something that’s inherent to your being as a person. It’s an inherent human right.

 

[daveonezero]

Letting god take the steering wheel in the 21st century, a god-given right, is laughable. I don't need to know more than that to know it's about fucking time you bulldoze the fucking thing and start again with common sense.

Commons sense sounds a lot like someone else telling another person what they can and can’t do with their own body when they aren’t hurting anyone.

 

[ItsGreat]

Don’t leave kids in a vulnerable centralized place. More decentralized schools in easier to protect locations.

Big schools where strangers can just walk in is the problem. Schoolls shouldn’t be bigger than 150 where all the faculty can recognize everyone that should and should not be there.

Large campuses with 100s of kids and dozens of faculty and just as many entries is a security nightmare.

The school system In The US is basically daycare and it needs to change for a number of reasons and one big one is school violence and lackluster academics.

A Federal plan doesn’t work for the amount of diversity that exists in this country. The federal government was never supposed to institute policy to all the states. It’s supposed to be up to the state.

Why are you making the potential victims do all the hard work?

 

[Toons]

Commons sense sounds a lot like someone else telling another person what they can and can’t do with their own body when they aren’t hurting anyone.

Which a gun gives you ample power to do.

 

[daveonezero]

Why are you making the potential victims do all the hard work?

It is the individuals responsibility to protect themselves.

The government is minutes away in a situation seconds count.

Which a gun gives you ample power to do.

It also sounds like a stick or a hammer or a knife.

It’s not up to me to tell you how to defend yourself.

Since criminals have guns case in point the OP of this thread I’ll choose that in defense of my family and loved ones. The laws either didn’t stop him from obtaining one or he procured one regardless of the laws

 

[ItsGreat]

Whats wrong with italics?

Are

You

Triggered?

Yes I'm certainly fucking triggered.

And it's about time people started to embrace being triggered and put it to good fucking use.

The triggered meme is just a bully saying 'ohh, are you going to hit me. Are you going to psych out?'

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Yes I'm certainly fucking triggered.

And it's about time people started to embrace being triggered and put it to good fucking use.

The triggered meme is just a bully saying 'ohh, are you going to hit me. Are you going to psych out?'

Was just kidding man. Apologies then if you're upset about it. It wasn't my intention.

 

[Thanati]

America, the country where unborn fetuses have the "right to live" but the living come after the 2nd amendment.

And yes, I'm American.

Fuck the NRA.
Fuck the 2nd amendment.
Fuck the GOP and their complicit pieces of crap.

 

[StateofMajora]

What traditional values is your government destroying? Serious question

Literally, the family. And Christianity.

Started small, like demoralizing mother's into feeling like being a mother was lesser and a career was more rewarding. But at the same time creating the welfare state and praising single motherhood, replacing the role of the father with the state.

All of this trans this, trans that... They're going for that angle because it's much harder to control a functional family with a father and a mother. They want us to be wholly reliant on the government and not a self sustaining free people.

Just watch some of the Virginia governor debates ; they (one of the two candidates, who lost) have literally stated that parents have no role in their children's education.

But listen, perhaps I'm getting too political for the forum. I'm okay with people calling me a nut, but I do enjoy posting here and the odds of changing anyone's mind are slim.

 

[Thanati]

I don't want this to sound as if I'm saying loss of life in any other tragic situation is less meaningful but the fact this involved mostly children is gut wrenching.

I hear you and fully understand.

 

[Buggy Loop]

You know so little you don’t even know how little you know.

God-given means exactly the same thing whether you acknowledge a creator or not. It means it’s something that’s inherent to your being as a person. It’s an inherent human right.

And thus the homo sapiens 300,000 years ago in Africa said "I need mah guns, AR-15 preferably"

I mean, it's not like there's a lack of examples from other countries where there's even better human rights than the USA and there's still gun laws. You could maybe start by assuring that everyone has drinking water & health care. Seems more like an inherent right than guns. USA is a third world country with a gucci belt that is completely brainwashed by the theology of the American dream. You couldn't even pay me enough money to go live there.

 

[daveonezero]

America, the country where unborn fetuses have the "right to live" but the living come after the 2nd amendment.

And yes, I'm American.

Fuck the NRA.
Fuck the 2nd amendment.
Fuck the GOP and their complicit pieces of crap.

You don’t understand rights. Having a gun or the 2a doesn’t give you the right to inflict harm on another person.

The NRA and the GOP are gun grabbers. Firearms Policy Coalition is based. Firearms manufacturers barely make profit. You should be more upset at the military contracts.

 

[Thanati]

You don’t understand rights. Having a gun or the 2a doesn’t give you the right to inflict harm on another person.

The NRA and the GOP are gun grabbers. Firearms Policy Coalition is based. Firearms manufacturers barely make profit. You should be more upset at the military contracts.

No.

I'm upset because the fucking politicians would rather bend over backwards than even do ANYTHING about the 2nd amendment. I'm pissed off because there's a bill that's been sitting on the house, waiting for the senate to vote on that would extend background checks.

People say this guy had "mental issues". Hey, why the hell do we give guns to people with mental issues? Oh yeah, the GOP voted AGAINST a law that would them illegal to sell to people with mental issues.

Also, Texas passed a law recently that allowed under 18's to buy guns.

What in the actual fuck is wrong with this country!? How the hell can anyone defend "the right to own a gun".

Kids man. Fucking kids were killed. Don't you see!? Oh wait, if you didn't see Sandy Hook, or the Buffalo shooting, or didn't care, then you won't see this.

 

[Nydius]

America, the country where unborn fetuses have the "right to live" but the living come after the 2nd amendment.

And yes, I'm American.

Fuck the NRA.
Fuck the 2nd amendment.
Fuck the GOP and their complicit pieces of crap.

The right to life is the first unalienable right listed in the Declaration of Independence, the document that established the United States as a sovereign entity.
The right to bear arms is the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights and is an explicit right granted to all citizens.

If you don't like it, tough.
As for your next to last proposal to remove a Constitutional right because it offends you, well, to use your own words: Fuck you.

Constitutional rights are greater than your offended feelings.

Edit:

Also, Texas passed a law recently that allowed under 18's to buy guns.

This is an outright lie.
Federal law mandates that you MUST be 18 to purchase a long arm.
No state can make a law allowing sales to an age younger than that.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Literally, the family. And Christianity.

Started small, like demoralizing mother's into feeling like being a mother was lesser and a career was more rewarding. But at the same time creating the welfare state and praising single motherhood, replacing the role of the father with the state.

All of this trans this, trans that... They're going for that angle because it's much harder to control a functional family with a father and a mother. They want us to be wholly reliant on the government and not a self sustaining free people.

Just watch some of the Virginia governor debates ; they (one of the two candidates, who lost) have literally stated that parents have no role in their children's education.

But listen, perhaps I'm getting too political for the forum. I'm okay with people calling me a nut, but I do enjoy posting here and the odds of changing anyone's mind are slim.

100% true.

You can see that in any issue where people are complaining about this or that. It's typically skewed to young, shitty job, broke people, involved in unique lifestyles opposite the traditional two parent household with a couple kids. Often single or broken families. Government loves these people because they are ticket to re-election. Mention they'll get an extra $500 in their wallet and they love it. If a politician says to me I'll get an extra $500, what do I care and at what consequence? You can keep it if it means better roads.

The typical middle or upper middle income suburban family which is dual income with decent jobs needs zero government assistance, and no doubt in my mind cares less about politicians. Taxes or welfare go up or down most wont care. It wont affect them in any meaningful way. They worry more about picking up their kids from daycare or driving them to soccer practice.

I'm no parent, but I totally support dual parent homes. I dont care if it's straight, gay, lesbians etc.... Have a good home with parents around and the kids arent left alone. Also, money wise two people make more than one, so finances are easier. And the better $$$ you got, the less crime happens as crime/poor go together.

Not a hard concept to understand. But people in the US love getting divorced.

 

[daveonezero]

No.

I'm upset because the fucking politicians would rather bend over backwards than even do ANYTHING about the 2nd amendment. I'm pissed off because there's a bill that's been sitting on the house, waiting for the senate to vote on that would extend background checks.

People say this guy had "mental issues". Hey, why the hell do we give guns to people with mental issues? Oh yeah, the GOP voted AGAINST a law that would them illegal to sell to people with mental issues.

Also, Texas passed a law recently that allowed under 18's to buy guns.

What in the actual fuck is wrong with this country!? How the hell can anyone defend "the right to own a gun".

Kids man. Fucking kids were killed. Don't you see!? Oh wait, if you didn't see Sandy Hook, or the Buffalo shooting, or didn't care, then you won't see this.

I’m upset too. Kids should never be left defenseless. They are precious and should be protected at all costs. Best way to do that is a decentralized solution close to the community.

Kids are killed everyday all across the world and they don’t have the 2a. A lot of them by governments. Called democide.

You or anyone writing laws has literally no Right to what someone else has or keeps in their possession. The government had authority to protect the kids in this situation and they failed. They always fail in preventing a shooting. It’s impossible to predict.

You don’t get to decide how someone else feels or should think.

 

[Thanati]

The right to life is the first unalienable right listed in the Declaration of Independence, the document that established the United States as a sovereign entity.
The right to bear arms is the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights and is an explicit right granted to all citizens.

If you don't like it, tough.
As for your next to last proposal to remove a Constitutional right because it offends you, well, to use your own words: Fuck you.

Constitutional rights are greater than your offended feelings.

The 2nd amendment is an AMENDMENT! It was added to the constitution.

You do realize what that means, right?

And it's good to see that you are clearly in the camp that defends this sort of thing. Let me guess, your solution is to arm all teachers or to have security guards in schools, right?

 

[kfpkiller]

Don’t leave kids in a vulnerable centralized place. More decentralized schools in easier to protect locations.

Big schools where strangers can just walk in is the problem. Schoolls shouldn’t be bigger than 150 where all the faculty can recognize everyone that should and should not be there.

Large campuses with 100s of kids and dozens of faculty and just as many entries is a security nightmare.

The school system In The US is basically daycare and it needs to change for a number of reasons and one big one is school violence and lackluster academics.

A Federal plan doesn’t work for the amount of diversity that exists in this country. The federal government was never supposed to institute policy to all the states. It’s supposed to be up to the state.

And then you realize big schools exist everywhere in the world without any problems.
Maybe you should look at the root of the problem and not the consequences.

 

[Thanati]

Kids are killed everyday all across the world and they don’t have the 2a. A lot of them by governments. Called demo code.

THAT'S your outrage? That's what you've taken from this? "Kids are killed everyday across the world"

Well Hallelujah! We have the solution. We don't need to do anything because, hey, kids are killed every day.

 

[Zeroing]

I wish our country was that effective. You hear about shootings and bombings being prevented here occasionally, but far too often we don't know any of that stuff until after the fact.

Wash rinse repeat next week or the week after that when the next shooting happens.

I dunno I would understand that some shootings could pass undetected by the police but America has so much intelligence agencies... shootings should be lesser and uncommon, unless it is really a pandemic problem?

 

[BigBooper]

America, the country where unborn fetuses have the "right to live" but the living come after the 2nd amendment.

And yes, I'm American.

Fuck the NRA.
Fuck the 2nd amendment.
Fuck the GOP and their complicit pieces of crap.

Yes, we have automatic firing squad executions on your 18th birthday. If you survive the barrage, you get to live. I don't know if people in other countries knew about this tradition.

 

[Thanati]

Yes, we have automatic firing squad executions on your 18th birthday. If you survive the barrage, you get to live. I don't know if people in other countries knew about this tradition.

Nice, making a joke when kids have been murdered.

Showing your class.

 

[BattleMonkey]

haven’t read much from the founders of the USA have you?

The guys who thought owning slaves was cool? Who denied women rights? We hold in high regard the founders whose views were wrong in so so many ways and we've already had to course correct so much of their ass backwards thinking.

 

[BigBooper]

Nice, making a joke when kids have been murdered.

Showing your class.

Your concern farming is unimpressive.

 

[haxan7]

And thus the homo sapiens 300,000 years ago in Africa said "I need mah guns, AR-15 preferably"

I mean, it's not like there's a lack of examples from other countries where there's even better human rights than the USA and there's still gun laws. You could maybe start by assuring that everyone has drinking water & health care. Seems more like an inherent right than guns. USA is a third world country with a gucci belt that is completely brainwashed by the theology of the American dream. You couldn't even pay me enough money to go live there.

That's about the depth of thought I'd expect from someone who voted in a guy like Trudeau. No offense.

 

[BigBooper]

And thus the homo sapiens 300,000 years ago in Africa said "I need mah guns, AR-15 preferably"

I mean, it's not like there's a lack of examples from other countries where there's even better human rights than the USA and there's still gun laws. You could maybe start by assuring that everyone has drinking water & health care. Seems more like an inherent right than guns. USA is a third world country with a gucci belt that is completely brainwashed by the theology of the American dream. You couldn't even pay me enough money to go live there.

Free speech is more important than free healthcare.

 

[Thanati]

Your concern farming is unimpressive.

Wow. Just, wow.

 

[BigBooper]

The 2nd amendment is an AMENDMENT! It was added to the constitution.

You do realize what that means, right?

And it's good to see that you are clearly in the camp that defends this sort of thing. Let me guess, your solution is to arm all teachers or to have security guards in schools, right?

If they want to follow the legal path to amend the constitution to pass gun control, I would accept it.

 

[Thanati]

If they want to follow the legal path to amend the constitution to pass gun control, I would accept it.

That's good and I appreciate it.

Unfortunately, the politicians won't even discuss gun control because they simply want to hold onto power and it needs 38 states to ratify an amendment.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

US has a lot of issue leading to gun violence, but wacko culture and mental state is definitely part of it.

Switzerland used to have some kind of forced militia thing where every dude had to take part (too lazy to google what it was). After you pass every guy got a pistol, assault rifle, and boxes of bullets.

Since Switzerland doesnt have military operations, the point was if shit hits the fan, all these amateur soldiers would grab their gear and do their best to defend.

I dont think Switzerland has mass crazy shootings where pissed off cheese eaters grabbed the guns given to them by the gov and go shooting up the neighbourhood.

But let's be real here. Just imagine if the US government gave every man in America government issued guns and gear and told them to act chill and only shoot if there's enemy soldiers attacking the homeland...... Yikes. Let's face it pro-gun supporters, it would be a clusterfuck on an hourly basis.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

The right to life is the first unalienable right listed in the Declaration of Independence, the document that established the United States as a sovereign entity.
The right to bear arms is the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights and is an explicit right granted to all citizens.

If you don't like it, tough.
As for your next to last proposal to remove a Constitutional right because it offends you, well, to use your own words: Fuck you.

Constitutional rights are greater than your offended feelings.

Edit:


This is an outright lie.
Federal law mandates that you MUST be 18 to purchase a long arm.
No state can make a law allowing sales to an age younger than that.

At the expense of human lives. Gotcha

Some posts in here are quite frankly shocking.

 

[DragoonKain]

I’ve had discussions with people who are extremely pro gun, because I wanted to get insight into where they were coming from, so I kinda went into the lion’s den and sought out so hardcore pro gun people to pick the brains of. If anyone has, I don’t know why anyone would be surprised that gun laws haven’t changed. Because they believe in their right to own guns literally at any cost. I think everyone’s different. I think some people do it because they can and don’t actively use their guns whether it be for hunting, recreationally, or otherwise, but don’t want people telling them they can’t so they want to do it. I also think people legitimately believe in their minds that guns are the only thing protecting them from authoritarian regimes or protecting themselves from crime. If one believes that in their own mind, then it shouldn’t surprise anyone why they refuse to give them up. Rightly or wrongly. I’ve had some really eye opening debates with pro gun people who even said to me not only should they have the right to own guns. But thing the laws are too limiting and should be able to own bazookas, grenades, rpgs, etc. They’re pro freedom through and through. There’s a reason the line “pry it off my cold dead hands” exists. I believe the gun issue could legitimately lead to a civil war. That’s how hardcore people are about their guns.

We saw the same thing with the vaccines kind of. People refusing to get it, even when they’ve lost loved ones to COVID.

People are really really set in their beliefs. For some, it happens to be the gun issue.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Free speech is more important than free healthcare.

150 countries out of 193 with free/universal healthcare.

Do you really think you’re that special that free speech in the USA is somehow above the vast majority of the developed world?

Delusional

 

[BattleMonkey]

it is crazy that unless I’m missing one big one I forgot, until 1999 with Columbine, if you were to ask someone to name a notable mass shooting in America, many would probably go to Charles Whitman in the 60s. That doesn’t mean there weren’t any, just I can’t remember in my life many making the news prior to Columbine. Since then, they’ve skyrocketed significantly, we get at least one major one every year in this country, and the gun laws haven’t significantly changed. The only thing I can think of that is the cause of this is these acts inspire others when they see how much carnage they cause.

I think on a smaller scale you also see kind of the same thing in since 2020 in America. Homicides have gone up nationally, in some cities smash and grabs and carjackings have dramatically increased. Is it just a coincidence? I think in kind of the same fashion, in 2020 you saw so many people get away with so much stuff because of the riots and demoralization of law enforcement nationwide, it had inspired people to commit crime since they’re seeing others do it.

Crime really can be contagious.

After Columbine, it's largely became part of the "pop culture", and a semi regular event. Something that makes these often loners get a spotlight and their time to "shine" as all their hate and grievances come out in the open. It's much like folks who turn to suicide as a way to "show them", they want to make a huge scene, go out in a blaze of glory that will make them part of history all while dealing out what they see as some kind of revenge. The media coverage and just how everyone in the country pauses to fight over it, march, discuss, analyze, it's just what they want. Columbine began this trend and others have decided that it's how they plan to go out as well.

It's not the only mass shootings we see, hell we had 500 people shot in Vegas, the worst mass shooting in history that no one can explain even why it happened, and out of that tragedy nothing changed except for a ban on bump stocks.

In most cases since 1999 we've had more laws passed around the US which have granted greater and easier access to firearms. Many states doing all they can to remove barriers and make carrying easier. Sales of weapons also keep going up. States that did have bans and restrictions in most cases have had those bans lifted or expired. Everyone was going nuts with Obama gonna take my guns yet no gun control happened then either. And right now many states are still trying to further pass laws that would make getting access to guns even easier.

After 2020 despite it all, the police were not defunded, in most cases most large cities even raised their police budgets, pay raises, and so on. Yet there has never once been a correlation with size of police force, budget, and crime coming down in response. Some of the most well funded police forces are found in states and cities with highest crime. But again this just shows that the Police don't stop crime typically, in most cases they RESPOND to crime. Often it's too late when they arrive, the crimes are already committed, unless you could post police on every single street corner, they are never gonna stop crime, it's gonna happen no matter how well armed and funded those cops are.

 

[Thanati]

This is an outright lie.
Federal law mandates that you MUST be 18 to purchase a long arm.
No state can make a law allowing sales to an age younger than that.

I apologize. That should have said, California and 21.

However, Texas did recently pass a law allowing under 21's to buy a gun.

 

[BigBooper]

150 countries out of 193 with free/universal healthcare.

Do you really think you’re that special that free speech in the USA is somehow above the vast majority of the developed world?

Delusional

Yes, our free speech is better than the majority, but it's not perfect.

Also, why would US citizens care about what the rest of the world does with their governments. I know globalism is getting pretty popular over in EU but US citizens want the best government for US citizens. Not the best government for the rest of the world.

 

[DragoonKain]

After Columbine, it's largely became part of the "pop culture", and a semi regular event. Something that makes these often loners get a spotlight and their time to "shine" as all their hate and grievances come out in the open. It's much like folks who turn to suicide as a way to "show them", they want to make a huge scene, go out in a blaze of glory that will make them part of history all while dealing out what they see as some kind of revenge. The media coverage and just how everyone in the country pauses to fight over it, march, discuss, analyze, it's just what they want. Columbine began this trend and others have decided that it's how they plan to go out as well.

It's not the only mass shootings we see, hell we had 500 people shot in Vegas, the worst mass shooting in history that no one can explain even why it happened, and out of that tragedy nothing changed except for a ban on bump stocks.

In most cases since 1999 we've had more laws passed around the US which have granted greater and easier access to firearms. Many states doing all they can to remove barriers and make carrying easier. Sales of weapons also keep going up. States that did have bans and restrictions in most cases have had those bans lifted or expired. Everyone was going nuts with Obama gonna take my guns yet no gun control happened then either. And right now many states are still trying to further pass laws that would make getting access to guns even easier.

After 2020 despite it all, the police were not defunded, in most cases most large cities even raised their police budgets, pay raises, and so on. Yet there has never once been a correlation with size of police force, budget, and crime coming down in response. Some of the most well funded police forces are found in states and cities with highest crime. But again this just shows that the Police don't stop crime typically, in most cases they RESPOND to crime. Often it's too late when they arrive, the crimes are already committed, unless you could post police on every single street corner, they are never gonna stop crime, it's gonna happen no matter how well armed and funded those cops are.

You have a lot of stuff not accurate in that last paragraph. I’m not going to get into that in this thread because that’s another topic entirely, but in another thread I could get into it in more detail.

 

[Havoc2049]

A bit about how the shooter was ultimately stopped.

http://[URL]https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-b4e4648ed0ae454897d540e787d092b2

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This is the second recent mass shooting where a Border Patrol Agent has rushed into harms way and stopped the gunman from killing more people.

 

[PanzerAzel]

Truly awful. RIP to the lost, and my thoughts are with the families tonight.

 

[daveonezero]

The 2nd amendment is an AMENDMENT! It was added to the constitution.

You do realize what that means, right?

And it's good to see that you are clearly in the camp that defends this sort of thing. Let me guess, your solution is to arm all teachers or to have security guards in schools, right?

It wasn’t added. The first 10 were in the document. At original signing. They actually thought it was common sense and didn’t even need to be stated.

 

[daveonezero]

THAT'S your outrage? That's what you've taken from this? "Kids are killed everyday across the world"

Well Hallelujah! We have the solution. We don't need to do anything because, hey, kids are killed every day.

I never claimed that was my solution. I stated my solution and was told making schools smaller is impossible.

The guys who thought owning slaves was cool? Who denied women rights? We hold in high regard the founders whose views were wrong in so so many ways and we've already had to course correct so much of their ass backwards thinking.

Then you do your own experience not and I’ll continue there’s. Just leave me alone.

 

[BigBooper]

That's good and I appreciate it.

Unfortunately, the politicians won't even discuss gun control because they simply want to hold onto power and it needs 38 states to ratify an amendment.

I'm being completely sincere in this. Constitutional amendments are so difficult to pass specifically because you need a concensus that the proposed change is needed. If they can convince people that strict gun control is what would solve the problem, then they might get concensus. It cannot be a political issue, because that will never generate concensus. The people who support strict gun control are not able to specify what the issue is, or why it would be a worthwhile tradeoff. It’s always poltical.

They say we need to heavily restrict gun ownership, while out the other side of their mouth they say we need to let repeat offenders go free and eliminate death penalty. They say we need red flag laws while allowing looters and rioters to run around doing whatever they like and refuse to recognize politically inconvenient mental illness and disinformation.

They have no credibility.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

What the Second Amendment really meant to the Founders

By the logic of the 18th century, any society with a professional army could never be truly free. The men in charge of that army could order it to attack the citizens themselves, who, unarmed and unorganized, would be unable to fight back. This was why a well-regulated militia was necessary to the security of a free state: To be secure, a society needed to be able to defend itself; to be free, it could not exist merely at the whim of a standing army and its generals.

Fucking hell. This shit is outdated and needs to be reviewed. Are they still going to hang onto this BS?