150Mhz CPU boost on XBO, now in production

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Sure why not Microsoft keep on changing shit in your box, it's not like you don't have to release it in a couple months.
 
RayMaker said:
The thought of liquids getting into the X1's top vents never really occurred to me because you would have to be a very very careless person to spill a drink there, I'd be more concerned about dust getting in there.
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Dust is not much of an issue, the heatsink can probably cool the thing passive.

The problem I have with the Xbox One is how its going to fare in tight spaces. The PS4's centrifugal fan (its definitely using this) is used because its fantastic for very tight spaces, even if it does create more turbulence noise. If your ambient temperature doesn't suck, it won't overheat. The Xbox One's cooling design (unless I'm blind) is that it needs heat to rise to prevent the creation of dead zones - I do not believe the heatsink fan is powerful or will spin fast enough to prevent heat from idling behind the optical drive.
 
professor_t said:
People are giving Coldfoot a hard time because, well, his "jab" wasn't particularly clever or funny and he wrote it with the grammar of a 10 year old who got held back in school for several years.

But I feel like we're missing the point -- doesn't the Xbox division actually turn a profit these days?
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Xbox itself has been very profitable since 2010

The division it's in hasn't been.
 
maabus1999 said:
With a smaller box and internal power supply going up against that large of a fan, I don't see how you can make an "educated" opinion it will be better. It would be a "marvel" and quiet unexpected to beat that cooling option. At best I would expect parity (and by reaching parity, a more "efficient" design).
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Have you read my posts? Of course you can. Looking at Microsoft's design, looking at Sony's past designs, and comparing the external design and size differences between the Xbox One and the PS4, you can absolutely make an educated opinion.

You do realise the PS4 is considerably smaller than the Xbox One right? You do realise the vast majority of the vents are on the rear of the console unlike the XO (suggesting directional air flow and heat dispersion). How about the fact that the PS4 also has an internal PSU, or can be put on its side too? (You obviously do based on your posts but don't think you appreciate the ramifications.)

All these factors point to the PS4 potentially having a much more efficient design. No doubt the cooling solution will have to be pretty impressive in order to accommodate these differences, especially in size.
 
Neo Zuko said:
Ram overclock is next!!
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Fresh Face said:
Not at all uncommon for it to happen though.

Scenario: You've got a large glass of Dr. Pepper in your hands, you can't find the remote to your TV to change the input to your Xbone, so you go over and change it, but nothing happens, so, still clutching the glass, you reach around behind to see the wire somehow got torn loose, you reach around, lose your balance, and splash some liquid out onto you Xbone which was sitting right beside your TV.

I can see that happening to a lot of people realistically.
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Yeah, kinda like the thousands of dead receivers and amplifiers we're constantly hearing about. All destroyed by their careless owners dumping cocktails into the top of them.

It's a fucking epidemic.

Think of the children.

Fun Fact: Chrome does not flag "fucking" as being a misspelled word. It's in the dictionary. But if I do misspell it, it does not suggest the correct spelling. Because that would be rude.
 
Fresh Face said:
Not at all uncommon for it to happen though.

Scenario: You've got a large glass of Dr. Pepper in your hands, you can't find the remote to your TV to change the input to your Xbone, so you go over and change it, but nothing happens, so, still clutching the glass, you reach around behind to see the wire somehow got torn loose, you reach around, lose your balance, and splash some liquid out onto you Xbone which was sitting right beside your TV.

I can see that happening to a lot of people realistically.
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Sounds like something from a final destination movie, lol
 
lantus said:
Sure why not Microsoft keep on changing shit in your box, it's not like you don't have to release it in a couple months.
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To be honest, who knows? The way they've changed things that usually are set in stone, they might release it on November 94th, by redefining December and January as just more November.
 
Fresh Face said:
Not at all uncommon for it to happen though.

Scenario: You've got a large glass of Dr. Pepper in your hands, you can't find the remote to your TV to change the input to your Xbone, so you go over and change it, but nothing happens, so, still clutching the glass, you reach around behind to see the wire somehow got torn loose, you reach around, lose your balance, and splash some liquid out onto you Xbone which was sitting right beside your TV.

I can see that happening to a lot of people realistically.
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Why don't you use the kinect to change the input? Also, how much design is necessary for careless people; There is always someone that will destroy a well designed item.
 
statham said:
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Let me guess. She then calls the computer repair store, it's saturday night 11pm but it's OK Roberto can get this. Turns out he's a 6'6" beautiful, tanned italian stallion, who will quickly lose any interest into fixing her computer but will show her what one can do with an 8" USB stick.
 
Raist said:
Let me guess. She then calls the computer repair store, it's saturday night 11pm but it's OK Roberto can get this. Turns out he's a 6'6" beautiful, tanned italian stallion, who will quickly lose any interest into fixing her computer but will show her what one can do with an 8" USB stick.
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lol
 
shandy706 said:
Why do so many people think a change in clock is a hardware change?
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Well technically it is, it affects the yields of chips, which are hardware, By upclocking millions of chips, your going to be changing the hardware that would go in the box from 1.6 ghz and above capable chips to 1.75 ghz and above capable chips. Once the Hardware is out in the wild you can't upclock via software without breaking some consoles.

Despite being a software modification it most certainly affects the Hardware.
 
Raist said:
Let me guess. She then calls the computer repair store, it's saturday night 11pm but it's OK Roberto can get this. Turns out he's a 6'6" beautiful, tanned italian stallion, who will quickly lose any interest into fixing her computer but will show her what one can do with an 8" USB stick.
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Looks like you're low on memory. Luckily I've got plenty of RAM for your slots.
 
Skeff said:
Well technically it is, it affects the yields of chips, which are hardware, By upclocking millions of chips, your going to be changing the hardware that would go in the box from 1.6 ghz and above capable chips to 1.75 ghz and above capable chips. Once the Hardware is out in the wild you can't upclock via software without breaking some consoles.

Despite being a software modification it most certainly affects the Hardware.
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If its designed to run safely at 2ghz+

A bump to 1.75ghz is nothing. It's not a hardware change that would stop the manufacturing if the actual hardware. Unless I'm missing something completely. I've never had to change hardware in my gaming rig to up/down clock it.
 
shandy706 said:
If its designed to run safely at 2ghz+

A bump to 1.75ghz is nothing. It's not a hardware change that would stop the manufacturing if the actual hardware. Unless I'm missing something completely. I've never had to change hardware in my gaming rig to up/down clock it.
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You'd be right if your overclocking 1 chip, however Microsoft have to do this for potentially 100million chips.

The way processors are made is that they are tested at the required speed, if they are aiming at 1.75 ghz, it would be wise testing at 1.75 ghz, as there is no need to throw away a chip which is capable of 1.8ghz just because standard Jaguar chips are designed to run at 2.0 ghz.
 
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