Sorta Maximus
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When the hell did NASA start getting in on the spying? Last I heard they were still driving Curiosity around Mars looking at rocks or something.
http://youtu.be/_B7MzBmjaJ8
150Mhz CPU boost on XBO, now in production
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http://youtu.be/_B7MzBmjaJ8
tensuke
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I had to remove a slice of bread that was forced into the slot of my first PS3, I kid you not
It's a good thing you did, or your PS3 might have been...
toast
LiquidMetal14
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h100i. I did something similar like you with my prior 2500k build. 2 fans in push pull on the same cooling solution. I have a 3930k now and Intel doesn't include even a stock heat sink seeing as this is an enthusiast level CPU which set me back over 550USD at the time.
But if you don't want to get into the whole dedicated water cooling business then closed loop via a nice Kraken or Corsair solution is nice. There is a newer h110 now and a newer Kraken out but the options are there and you can even do 4 fan push/pull if you have the case space. Any more info, send a PM. I spent over 2k on this build included custom dust covers for my Corsair 500R. I went full on nerd with this build. You can try and spend more on good fans like the Noctuas but those are around 20 a piece. I didn't want to spend that much but here I went and for this custom air filter set for 55 ><
On topic, this is good Xbone news.
Gotta cover my ass
CassidyIzABeast
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Have you no shame?
ALBOFIGHTER
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Man I wish ps4 was bigger so it could upclock. I don't know why they skipped to slim version for launch in a ten year lifespan. They could have easily gone 2.0 ghz cpu and over 2 TF gpu which would have enough grunt to make their laucnh titles 1080p 60 fps. Oh well.
tensuke
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The d stands for denial right?
Bam Bam Baklava
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This is like some "tighten up the graphics on level 3" shit.
Sarcasm? I have no idea on here anymore....There are some massively delusional posters which kind of fog up my sarcasm meter.
ALBOFIGHTER
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nope
What keeps them from producing them speced to 2.0ghz and the 1.6 is a down clock from the start?
Technically 1.75 would still be below spec in that case too. Just a simple software tweak.
statham
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nice, I now know not to get into a PC war with you. Lets go back to battleling how much better XB1 is then PS4
SanguineShark
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Not sure if sarcasm or stealth troll post. Developers could easily do 60 FPS and 1080p right now if they wanted. It's a choice ...
edit: Oh wow guess it's not sarcasm
after reading the bolded part I realized that you have no idea what you are talking about. just to let you know that Sony upclocked the PSP later in its lifecycle. of course PSP is bigger than PS4 that why they were able to upclock it /s
James Sawyer Ford
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This news sort of makes me doubt CBOAT regarding yield issues.
Seems unlikely that you'd upclock GPU and CPU and at the same time have yield issues.
But who knows, if they come out and have supply problems, it would seem like they're sacrificing supply for marginal performance boosts.
I wonder what the chances are now for a PS4 upclock. They haven't revealed the CPU clock yet. The GPU is reasonably powerful but the CPU is a tad underwhelming. Would like to see it get any boost it can.
Seems unlikely that you'd upclock GPU and CPU and at the same time have yield issues.
But who knows, if they come out and have supply problems, it would seem like they're sacrificing supply for marginal performance boosts.
I wonder what the chances are now for a PS4 upclock. They haven't revealed the CPU clock yet. The GPU is reasonably powerful but the CPU is a tad underwhelming. Would like to see it get any boost it can.
RedAssedApe
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Good to see MS scrapping. Things getting more and more interesting closer to launch. Still weird that there is no release date though.
Glorified G
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I didn't think so. There is a lot of people who don't know current gen hardware is already capable of 1080p 60fps and there were launch games displaying this 7 years ago. They're design choices. 0.2tflop increase won't change anything.
Here ya go!
*brofist*
I think that poster meant 1080@60fps without major sacrifices and balances between performance and gfx. Ya know?
Edit: or in other words: 'first-world problems' of game development for consoles.
Mass Effect
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ALBOFIGHTER
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Not sure if sarcasm or stealth troll post. Developers could easily do 60 FPS and 1080p right now if they wanted. It's a choice ...
edit: Oh wow guess it's not sarcasm
Not sure why you think it's sarcasm. If devs hit 60 fps with drive club and KZ, for example, they would have to compromise the graphics. I'd rather not have that happen. Devs are struggling hitting those goals as it is.
If they overclock the ps4 as it is, it will heat more and it's possible that it could still last a long time but Sony would probably not take that risk. As for Microsoft, they have a fucking giant console with the brick outside, it would be very stupid for them not to increase the clock speed. I think they are still conservative considering their ventilation.
Sorta Maximus
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Sony did better. They just used a better GPU baseline to start with.
LiquidMetal14
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nice, I now know not to get into a PC war with you. Lets go back to battleling how much better XB1 is then PS4
We will find a way to clash sometime or......
that's a 3% improvement at most in CPU intensive tasks, no big deal, considering most games would eat alive the GPU and compute is going to be the next big thing, the slight CPU bump means nothing but more PR stuff to add in desperate times, "hey, our CPU is faster !"... oh well, certainly I need confirmation these lates changes won't affect the reliability of the hardware, I'll have to wait and see bofore buying the ever-changing Xbox One, maybe if they delay it until late December it will feature full backwards compatibility and SSD's.
If they haven't revealed the CPU clock yet, isn't possible they could have already gave it an upclock?
These things are over my head but I was just wondering.
its 10% and it already has a ssd ....
Auto_aim1
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150MHz will definitely help but not by a lot. I think it's nice that Microsoft is trying to do all these last minute changes but the mandatory Kinect inclusion significantly reduces their flexibility. Sony doesn't need to counter this and it's most likely that their specs are finalized and the system is in production.
The yield issue rumours were all dubious because why the hell would Microsoft upclock both the CPU and GPU if such a thing was even true? It would have been impossible to that.
The yield issue rumours were all dubious because why the hell would Microsoft upclock both the CPU and GPU if such a thing was even true? It would have been impossible to that.
Glorified G
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No matter how big or little there will always be sacrifices which is the point. Have a Titan in there and the fact the game would look better at 30fps instead of 60fps is enough for devs. It's not going to change.
Because it would be Wasteful, Let's say they only accept 2 Ghz chips, 90% of these work at 2 Ghz, 5% fail between 1.75 and 2Ghz and 5% fail below 1.75 Ghz.
Producing only 2Ghz+ chips would mean a 10% failure rate so to get 100 million APU's they'd need to make 111Million APU's in the first place, but if they settle for 1.75Ghz chips then they only have a 5% failure rate and only need to produce 105.5 million or so chips.
Producing at 2Ghz would mean they would need to produce an extra 5.5 million chips at a cost of around $80-$100 Dollars, If we would assume the Price is lowered throughout the generation we can say about $50 dollars per chip.
This would cost them $275 million Dollars. and it's likely the average cost of a chip will e above $50 by looking at the size of the XB1 APU.
Well Have you seen Shadowfall? 1080p 60fps brah
Doesn't have an SSD it's got an 8gb Flash chip.
Sony doesn't have to act reactionary to MS at all, they already built the better more powerful system.
Sony needs to do nothing, just release the damn system already
ALBOFIGHTER
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Oh I know the ps4 is still more powerful. I just feel it would be great if it had that extra push. Especially when mid tier Gpus are 2+TF. Watch dogs seems to be getting downgraded same with battlefield. Assasin's Creed looks like last gen game and doesn't even hit 1080p 60f from what I read. To have compromises this early on kinda sucks but gotta get used to it. Infamous second son looks great but I'm sure that's 30 fps.
X1 has SSD? Joking right?
Sorta Maximus
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Honestly I'll go for the cooler running system over just a small 10 to 15% overclock increase with tons of extra heat.
nope. it has a hdd AND 8 gigs of nand flash memory.
Glorified G
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You're going to have compromises the rest of this gen, and next too. If 30fps is not enough than console gaming is not for you.
It doesn't have an SSD.
ALBOFIGHTER
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Well Have you seen Shadowfall? 1080p 60fps brah[/QUOTE]
Lol I never noticed that coincidence, have you seen titanfall/shadowfall haha. Anyways, yes the multiplayer is quite impressive even though they are still not locked at 60 fps as of yet. That's why that extra push would help them lock it and probably go 60 fps for single player as well.
Well Have you seen Shadowfall? 1080p 60fps brah[/QUOTE]
Lol I never noticed that coincidence, have you seen titanfall/shadowfall haha. Anyways, yes the multiplayer is quite impressive even though they are still not locked at 60 fps as of yet. That's why that extra push would help them lock it and probably go 60 fps for single player as well.
Disregard, I'll see if I can find the source I watched and post if I can find it.
Small flash drive, not for actual users to access. Quite common for consoles. I believe the PS3 and 360 also had a similar thing.
OK, that's not an SSD my friend.
LukasTaves
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Launch titles having bottlenecks isn't very alarming...Ps3 early titles were bottlenecked by the cell, and a few years later it became the system star.
Of course, there's a world of difference between the cell and a regular x86 cpu, but the point is that in the first years devs don't know the hardware very well to know what it can or cannot do.
Betta Lines
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And your detailed information on the efficiency of the cooling systems in each console is from where?
Well there is more to yields of chips than the clock speed, I believe that the electrical leakage would probably be the biggest cause of any potential yield issues which would not be affected by higher clock speeds as this only really brings extra heat.
I have no Idea if there are yield issues, but my point is there are multiple ways yields can be affected.
Whiteshirt
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What really? Holy shit.
Link? Shadow Fall MP being 1080/60 already blew my mind. If Infamous SS is as well..I have no words...
lowhighkang_LHK
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Why the fuck is MS near randomly changing their specs around so close to launch?
"Oh hey, um - check it out, we've added another, like...micro chip and a transistor and stuff...to our um, console. We've also added more clouds in our ... cloud. Pre-order please."
"Oh hey, um - check it out, we've added another, like...micro chip and a transistor and stuff...to our um, console. We've also added more clouds in our ... cloud. Pre-order please."
ssds are not nand flash memory?
Oh yes I know that. I was more saying couldn't they have upclocked it sometime during development without anybody knowing since, you know, they haven't released that information?Sony doesn't have to act reactionary to MS at all, they already built the better more powerful system.
Sony needs to do nothing, just release the damn system already
I don't think it matters either way. These consoles pretty much are what they are now. It's up to developers to get the most out of them. (Looking at you Naughty Gods)
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