1990's Cartoon Survivor (Do-Over)
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Batman was definitely the better show, no disagreement here. My point is that Superman, unlike a lot of shows, actually had a plot arc that spanned across the entire show.
Even if it doesn't make it this round, you should watch the "key" episodes and check out the two part finale. It's really powerful stuff, and Superman's final scene with Lois deserves some ovation.
just stick to the music video episodes.
Those are all I've seen since childhood and I have a sneaking suspicion that they're the reason the show is even still on this list.
that and probably the movie, which isn't that bad.
oh and the baby pucky episodes.
i still like tiny toons more than animaniacs.
Kill: TMNT - The nostalgia goggles! They do nothing!!
Kill: TMNT - I liked Uncle Phil more in Captain Simeon & The Spaaaaace Monkeeeys
Reboot: My fall back show once SWAT Kats got eliminated. So many pop culture references that I didn't get until I had pop culture references explained to me later on in life. Season 2 Dot Matrix's chest upgrade. Glitch Bob. Enzo's Birthday Guitar Battle. Hexidecimal's ability to frighten the shit out of me in broad daylight. And there's a special place in hell for Tony Jay haters.
Kill: TMNT - I liked Uncle Phil more in Captain Simeon & The Spaaaaace Monkeeeys
Reboot: My fall back show once SWAT Kats got eliminated. So many pop culture references that I didn't get until I had pop culture references explained to me later on in life. Season 2 Dot Matrix's chest upgrade. Glitch Bob. Enzo's Birthday Guitar Battle. Hexidecimal's ability to frighten the shit out of me in broad daylight. And there's a special place in hell for Tony Jay haters.
Gintoki313
Banned
I was a teenager when I saw it, so it was the funniest thing I ever watched at the time. I'm a big fan of Mike Judge, his comedy was always the kind I most laughed at.
Their laughs always got me as well.
TheAbsolution
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A Human Becoming
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Let me start the next round right:
Kill: Reboot - Never watched it as a kid.
Kill: Beast Wars - Not a fan.
Save: TMNT
Show of my childhood.
Kill: Reboot - Never watched it as a kid.
Kill: Beast Wars - Not a fan.
Save: TMNT
Show of my childhood.
TheAbsolution
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Anyways!
Scattershot votes every-fucking-where!
The top two shows this round were:
The rest of the top five:
These shows made the cut to the next round:
Good Luck and keep voting!
Link to the Google Doc that helped me out with the tally.
Scattershot votes every-fucking-where!
The top two shows this round were:
- Pinky and the Brain! (19 Kills and 3 Saves) (NET:16)
And:
- Freakazoid! with 21 kills and 6 saves (NET: 15)
The rest of the top five:
- TMNT- 9 kills and 5 saves
- Hey! Arnold- (Tie)10 kills and 7 saves
- Doug (Tie) 3 Kills
- Johnny Bravo (Tie) 3 Kills 1 Save
- Reboot (Tie) 5 Kills 3 Saves
- Superman - 10 Kills and 11 Saves
- Dexter's Lab -1 Kill 3 Saves
These shows made the cut to the next round:
- Spongebob Squarepants (Seasons 1-4)
- Rocko's Modern Life
- Hey! Arnold
- Rugrats
- Doug (Nickelodeon Version)
- Dexter's Laboratory
- Johnny Bravo
- The Powerpuff Girls
- Courage the Cowardly Dog
- Animaniacs
- Batman:The Animated Series
- Darkwing Duck
- DuckTales
- X-Men:The Animated Series
- Gargoyles
- Tiny Toons
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
- The Simpsons
- South Park
- The Tick
- Superman The Animated Series
- Beavis and Butthead
- Batman Beyond
- Reboot
- DragonBall Z
- Beast Wars
Good Luck and keep voting!
Link to the Google Doc that helped me out with the tally.
Wow. That says a lot- the show wound up with a positive score!
Now that was a dramatic round. Good to see Pinky & The Brain get sensibly cut, but now we're really getting into the nitty gritty. There's a lot of Cartoon Network remaining... maybe it's time to mine that for this round? I'm almost afraid to suggest the next kill... but I'm leaning towards a few...
Kill: Johnny Bravo
Kill: Johnny Bravo
Save: Reboot
I went back and forth a lot, but some strong cases were made to not kill Reboot. I might remember Beast Wars better, but Reboot seems like a stronger show. I also think TMNT is ready to retire, but Johnny Bravo shouldn't outlast something like TMNT. Johnny was funny enough, but it just doesn't have the horsepower to keep trucking along, I think.
We're at about the top 20, and I think anything left is considered "honored."
TheAbsolution
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Yep. Only 26 shows left. 8 days until the final 10.
Frustrated_Grunt
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Well shit, 2 of my top 20 eliminated in one round.
Kill:Reboot
Kill:Beast Wars
Save:Johnny Bravo
Kill:Reboot
Kill:Beast Wars
Save:Johnny Bravo
Skid 4 Dead
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Kill : Beast Wars
Kill : Beast Wars
Save : Courage the Cowardly Dog
I've been waiting for these eliminations for some time now. >:]
I'd really like to be able to save Superman if need be, but jesus christ at the mofos constantly trying to eliminate Arnold!
EDIT:
How long do you guys intend to have Reboot last? There are some actual iconic TV shows on this list, surly you don't expect top 10, let alone top 15.
Kill : Beast Wars
Save : Courage the Cowardly Dog
I've been waiting for these eliminations for some time now. >:]
I'd really like to be able to save Superman if need be, but jesus christ at the mofos constantly trying to eliminate Arnold!
EDIT:
How long do you guys intend to have Reboot last? There are some actual iconic TV shows on this list, surly you don't expect top 10, let alone top 15.
KEEP TRYING TO PROLONG THE INEVITABLE
TheSadRanger
Banned
Kill: Hey Arnold
Kill: TMNT
Save: Reboot
I'd like to Reboot go a while longer, although do we count post apocalypse Reboot or pre-apocalypse. Enzo having his "attitude" makeover killed some of the fun of the show. I still think it was a bold move though.
Kill: TMNT
Save: Reboot
I'd like to Reboot go a while longer, although do we count post apocalypse Reboot or pre-apocalypse. Enzo having his "attitude" makeover killed some of the fun of the show. I still think it was a bold move though.
BinaryPork2737
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The Adder didn't snipe any shows last round. That's disappointing.
Not sure what to vote for yet. Though I'm probably going to end up saving Reboot.
Not sure what to vote for yet. Though I'm probably going to end up saving Reboot.
If we had to cut one... which one do you think is worse and why? I'm in between the two, but have no hard feelings either way.
Yeah, we're at that point. I have a show or two I want to suggest but I fear the reaction I'll get. People need to start making the case for the pecking order!
Darkwing Duck?
Doctor Decimate
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Kill: ReBoot
Kill: Beast Wars
Save: Courage the Cowardly Dog
these two shows need to get the hell out, they have no place among the others. TMNT is next.
Kill: Beast Wars
Save: Courage the Cowardly Dog
these two shows need to get the hell out, they have no place among the others. TMNT is next.
I'll save either Arnold or Superman if need be, I'm right there with you.
Skid 4 Dead
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Reboot. It's the only show left that I have never watched. Going back and watching- trying to watch an episode was a mistake, it didn't age well. And while I could almost say the same thing for Beast Wars, I do have more of a soft spot for Transformers as a whole. Looking back though, I might have a bias against computer animated tv shows. Just never clicked with them.
CharminUltra
Member
I thought both Beast Wars and Reboot were rather mediocre even at the time, now imagine how I feel about them now. Furthermore, I'm going to focus on taking both of these out next. Beast Wars was by far the worst of the two, so it's gotta go first. Those bare and lifeless landscapes; those uninspired characters and stories... BEGONE!
Kill: Beast Wars
Kill: Beast Wars
Save: Beavis and Butthead
Kill: Beast Wars
Kill: Beast Wars
Save: Beavis and Butthead
Doctor Decimate
Member
i'll toss Hey Arnold a save if it needs it, but i think Superman is gonna get priority there.
Doctor Decimate
Member
i'd say go with killing both, but if you wanna stick with trying to squash TMNT then make the other kill ReBoot. if nothing else, Beast Wars left a bigger impact
Frustrated_Grunt
Member
I'm glad Reboot made it this far at least, since I enjoyed the story more than most of the shows that got eliminated already on this list. Beast Wars the only thing I could remember about it were the toys.
I trust way to many of the guys voting this way: I'm changing to the Reboot/Beast Wars kill and keeping my save TBA for whichever solid show needs it next.
And Grunt? I feel for you. Having a fave show axed stinks, but two in one round? Ouch. Sorry man. If it helps, the Daria kill got a few good posters to jump to attention and weed out some needed shows for a few rounds, so maybe the the last two kills will do the same for you.
And Grunt? I feel for you. Having a fave show axed stinks, but two in one round? Ouch. Sorry man. If it helps, the Daria kill got a few good posters to jump to attention and weed out some needed shows for a few rounds, so maybe the the last two kills will do the same for you.
TheAbsolution
Member
Yep, feel the same way.
Kill: Johnny Bravo
Kill: Johnny Bravo was really boring.
Save: Reboot
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
Reboot and Beast Wars are both fairly important just because of the legacy of the CGI style they leave behind. Reboot, being a bit newer than Beast Wars, still holds up better than Beast Wars.
Doctor Decimate
Member
guys we forgot a show!
this would totally be gone by now
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
Kill: TMNT- Since no one else wants to kill X-Men, TMNT gets my kills. Like X-Men, the animation just doesn't hold up, and the best part of both are the openings.
Kill: TMNT
Save: ReBoot- I'm ok with Beast Wars going this round, but ReBoot does the CGI style better thanks to being a more modern show and probably had a more influential effect than Beast Wars.
Kill: TMNT
Save: ReBoot- I'm ok with Beast Wars going this round, but ReBoot does the CGI style better thanks to being a more modern show and probably had a more influential effect than Beast Wars.
If this round goes the way it's looking like it will, X-Men and TMNT might be my next two to go for me. I also have a few other shows I'm thinking should get cut around the same time (namely
Darkwing Duck
We've got a hive mind going here. I' won't be pressured into making decisions I disagree with. I will do my best to talk some sense into people.
It isn't about whether the show holds up. Ninja Turtles influenced a large number of shows on the list. It set the table for kick ass beat'em ups, good movies, and the first Halloween costume I remember. Ninja Turtles was the gold standard of children's action shows and the characters were likable.
Contrary to what someone just posted, Beast Wars had excellent writing and it is better than Reboot (I still like you reboot). Complaining about the animation on these shows is kind of silly. Beast Wars was one of the first fully cgi shows, of course it sucks now. There are lots of shows with poor animation that still have substance.
Spectral Glider
Member
Kill: Reboot
Kill: Doug
Save: TMNT
Kill: Doug
Save: TMNT
Doctor Decimate
Member
Johnny Bravo might need to be shown the door after X-Men and TMNT. i still don't feel good about just saying "90s South Park" since we are judging quite a few of these shows based on how they were in the 2000s (or the 80s, in the case of DuckTales).
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
The best part of TMNT is its opening. If TMNT looks like it's going to have more votes than X-Men, I'll probably switch to that.
I never really cared for Tiny Toons other than the movie. Wasn't a huge fan of Gargoyles either, though it was more interesting in concept than Tiny Toons. Johnny Bravo was ok, but it was always one of the cartoons that I would passively watch if there was nothing else on.
As for Darkwing Duck, it's one of the few Disney shows of that era I've never really seen. Duck Tales is cool though.
I actually agree completely with Beast Wars. I remember really liking the writing and the characters, which, yeah, were targeted for kids (imagine that!), but I think both are constantly at odds with getting killed at the expense of the other, so to speak.
As for TMNT, I agree that it was highly influential, but I think it's best aspect was its popularity. The four-member dynamic was good, but better in almost every other version of the franchise (save maybe the third movie, heh). It's not that I think it's garbage, but I just don't think it's top ten material, for me. We cool?
That opening is unreal.
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
Beast Wars has the best writing of any of the Transformers stuff I know of, though that isn't much. Never really was a fan of anything Transformers related. If it weren't for Beast Wars, and by extension ReBoot, we wouldn't have shows like Star Wars: The Clone Wars or Code Lyoko. I personally think that both should last another round or two but it doesn't seem like the votes are heading in that direction.
Hmm... which of the two is the weaker, would you say? Beast Wars?
X-Men, Beast Wars, Reboot, and TMNT seem like the next victims, then. Man, what a pack of shows to nix!
Gintoki313
Banned
Kill: TMNT
Kill: TMNT
Save: Hey Arnold
I haven't seen the old TMNT (I think it's the only show on this list that I haven't seen), so I have to vote it off. The first TMNT that I saw was the 2003 version.
I stated before why i wanted to save Hey Arnold. So I'll stick with it (especially after seeing it almost hit the top).
Kill: TMNT
Save: Hey Arnold
I haven't seen the old TMNT (I think it's the only show on this list that I haven't seen), so I have to vote it off. The first TMNT that I saw was the 2003 version.
I stated before why i wanted to save Hey Arnold. So I'll stick with it (especially after seeing it almost hit the top).
I do agree with this, but I don't differentiate the cartoon from the games and the movies. I can't. They are all spawn of the cartoon. (Was Spawn a 90s cartoon?) I have broken memories of actually watching ninja turtles the cartoon, but that's the case for most of the shows on the list. I do have fond memories of the movies and of the games. Whenever I hear "The Big Apple" my mind goes straight to "3 am." And then my mind is all like "prehistoric turtlesaurus."
The Turtle Bus with the ejector seats. I vaguely remember having the turtle bus.
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
Yep. Spawn was late 90s I think.
I would say Beast Wars is the weaker of the two, though the characterization is still very deep in the show along with its narrative. Both ReBoot and Beast Wars were made by the same studio I think, so it's only natural that ReBoot became a progression of the Beast Wars style with updates.
TheAbsolution
Member
I have to ask.
Why in the FUCK is Johnny Bravo still on this list?
One of the most boring TV shows I've ever watched.
Terrible Terrible show.
Needs to be dropkicked off before top 20.
C'mon guys, Do the right thing.
Why in the FUCK is Johnny Bravo still on this list?
One of the most boring TV shows I've ever watched.
Terrible Terrible show.
Needs to be dropkicked off before top 20.
C'mon guys, Do the right thing.
We're running out of things to cut!
He might have a real point here... I don't think it was that bad, but it's not stellar enough to hang with the top 20, I thinki.
Crap, do I have to change my votes again?
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