1990's Cartoon Survivor (Do-Over)

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I....I actually liked the PPG ;_;

I don't think it was a show for girls at all (MLP definitely is). It starred girls, but those girls were involved in a lot of action (which appealed to boys as well). The violence was on a higher level than anything else marketed towards girls since, probably.

This. PPG were badasses. And as far as cleverness... that Beatles reference episode was pure genius.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qEbqXlxDBM

"Some day monkey won't play piano song... play piano song...."
 
i don't think ppg and mlp have a lot in common. ppg centered around girls as main characters, but they were also superheroes. plus if you liked ppg in the 90s it was probably when you were a kid or early teen instead of an adult like mlp in this decade.

Fair enough, I humbly conceded.
 
So is the voting fixed or what? Voting alliances? A ton of people are voting near identically from round to round.

Or is it that a pattern emerges early and everyone dogpiles to eliminate (or save) a particular show?

Either way this seems deeply flawed. Maybe it should have been a system with secret ballot. There is very clear influence in the votes.

Plus we all know this just a charade towards the inevitable.
Batman: TAS is the clear winner.
Secret ballot would kill all the fun. People would be less vocal since it would likely give hint towards their voting habits. It's fun calling people out too.

I don't like voting strategically, but if it helps protect a show I like so be it.
 
So is the voting fixed or what? Voting alliances? A ton of people are voting near identically from round to round.

Or is it that a pattern emerges early and everyone dogpiles to eliminate (or save) a particular show?

Either way this seems deeply flawed. Maybe it should have been a system with secret ballot. There is very clear influence in the votes.

Plus we all know this just a charade towards the inevitable.
Batman: TAS is the clear winner.
the simpsons is going to win. i have an ace up my sleeve
 
There's been so little discussion on the Simpsons, I forgot it was on the list. :P
And it's going to win. You just need to wake up the Simpsons off-topic community and they will be here in droves. Batman has fighting chance when you consider how many topics the animated show has had here in GAF.
 
What's the tally for this round, currently?

Anyone else reconsidering and saving Reboot?

As far as super hero shows go, X-Men and TMNT have been mentioned enough, so they probably won't make top ten. The Tick could go before top ten, too, potentially. I'm unsure about Batman Beyond, but TAS is just so damn good.
 
A few of us mentioned The Simpsons a while back, but there really is no point discussing it yet as there are still quite a few not-that-good and average shows (IMO).

I fully expect The Simpsons and Batman TAS to make it to the final round and with good reason.
 
As far as I can tell, the top 10 will be :

Simpsons
Spongebob
one wildcard
and the seven superhero-themed shows
I would like to see Spongebob up there but it's been on the line of fire too many times already. There is hate for it. People can't seperate the golden seasons from the "bad" seasons. Given that I doubt many has even seen the so called "bad" seasons.

What's the tally for this round, currently?

Anyone else reconsidering and saving Reboot?
For old times sake I'll change my kill/save vote.
 
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I would like to see Spongebob up there but it's been on the line of fire too many times already. There is hate for it. People can't seperate the golden seasons from the "bad" seasons. Given that I doubt many has even seen the so called "bad" seasons.

I think this is the reason 90s South Park should go soon, too, if that makes any sense.
 
What's the tally for this round, currently?

Anyone else reconsidering and saving Reboot?

As far as super hero shows go, X-Men and TMNT have been mentioned enough, so they probably won't make top ten. The Tick could go before top ten, too, potentially. I'm unsure about Batman Beyond, but TAS is just so damn good.

i want tmnt out and i never saw beast wars. i'll probably try my hand at saving reboot.
 
I didn't even know this thread existed, damn.

If ive read this correctly.

Kill: ReBoot
Kill: ReBoot

Save: TMNT

I cant stand bad cgi series now and I coulndnt stand them when I was small, even if they had some good things.
TMNT was part of my childhood, and after watching them again some years ago I think they have enough good things that the other TMNT shows didnt got right that it needs to be saved.
 
You guys think so little of Ducktales and Animaniacs. :\

i haven't seen ducktales in about 20 years. i don't like animaniacs.

actually the one that surprises me right now is dbz. i haven't seen anyone say anything about it. if we're talking toonami's 90s dbz (through the end of the freeza saga), then it should stay. if we're talking about the entirety of the show (since it started in 89 in japan and ran through the mid-90s), it should really be gone soon goku.
 
I really loved the Simpsons back when it was good, but man.. it winning would suck.

we're talking about the 90s though. 90s simpsons winning in a 90s cartoon survivor makes sense.

the one missing show is king of the hill. don't know how south park and batman beyond and spongebob make it but koth doesn't. maybe next decade.
 
I think this is the reason 90s South Park should go soon, too, if that makes any sense.
It does. South Park's crude humor hasn't aged well. Sure there are some classic episodes that make me still laugh, but early stuff just isn't all that funny. Show started to get better during season three but it was still far from it's best.
 
I will fight for Courage in at least the top 15 while everything else burns.

courage will probably slip in alongside other lesser shows while everyone fights to kill off favorites they don't want winning. freakazoid, home movies, and ren and stimpy were all probably top ten contenders that had strong hate campaigns.
 
I really loved the Simpsons back when it was good, but man.. it winning would suck.

You think so? The first nine seasons were so perfect though, and made up almost the entire decade!

I used my save on Reboot. Here's hoping it wasn't in vain! My current wish is TMNT this round, South Park and Johnny Bravo next.
 
courage will probably slip in alongside other lesser shows while everyone fights to kill off favorites they don't want winning. freakazoid, home movies, and ren and stimpy were all probably top ten contenders that had strong hate campaigns.

Ren and Stimpy being gone this early is still some bullshit. I completely understand if people don't like the show, but come on that's one of the first things you think of for 90s cartoons. It was hugely influential and it holds up pretty well.
 
Ren and Stimpy being gone this early is still some bullshit. I completely understand if people don't like the show, but come on that's one of the first things you think of for 90s cartoons. It was hugely influential and it holds up pretty well.

If you want revenge we could all switch our kills to The Simpsons with five minutes to go...

Just saying.
 
ЯAW;97209263 said:
I would like to see Spongebob up there but it's been on the line of fire too many times already. There is hate for it. People can't seperate the golden seasons from the "bad" seasons. Given that I doubt many has even seen the so called "bad" seasons.
I think this is the reason 90s South Park should go soon, too, if that makes any sense.
As the main person who's voted for Spongebob so far, this is the opposite to my reasoning.
I think Spongebob needs to go out because it was a relative non-entity in the 90s, but South Park should survive a bit longer because its most original seasons were back then.

Clearly there are creative differences between us!
 
Ren and Stimpy being gone this early is still some bullshit. I completely understand if people don't like the show, but come on that's one of the first things you think of for 90s cartoons. It was hugely influential and it holds up pretty well.
Ren & Stimpy is simply too polarizing to make it in this kind of voting. And this is popularity contest. Most popular show will win, not the one with most cultural clout.

If you want revenge we could all switch our kills to The Simpsons with five minutes to go...

Just saying.
I tried that with Superman, didn't play out too well :b
 
I can't right now but if people pile on Reboot, I'll join that bandwagon (so long as Beast Wars is also on it).

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I tried that with Superman, didn't play out too well :b

No one is going to save The Simpsons though because they think it's safe. Could totally shank it.
 
Kill: Beavis & Butthead
Kill: Johnny Bravo

Save: (TMNT, Beast Wars, Reboot)
[edit: I want my save to be for the one that needs it most or the one that it would make the difference on, since I can't leave that up to the OP to decide, I will just have to make a choice and hope it's not the wrong one (since I'm too lazy to do a proper tally)]

I never found humor in my 2 kills, not that I ever watched either of them often, but when I did, I found them at best background noise.

As far as saves go, I'm torn.
I enjoyed TMNT as a kid, had lots of the toys, watched the cartoon, watched the movies even though they were pretty bad, and now I'm curiously interested in the potential train wreck of the new movie too.
I also really liked Beast Wars back in the day, same as Reboot.

I hope some one does a pre closure count for us undecided.
 
Superman was a great animated series in the 90's but I think both Batman and Batman beyond out performed it. Not by much mind you. Again, the list is getting really hard to vote on now. Most kills from here on out are going to be things that get double kills right after the tally and aren't people's top ten. Then eventually rinse repeat for #1.

If this begets a 00's thread though, Samurai Jack will take the cake for me.

80's thread would be fun but I don't think it would have enough participants.
 
00s cartoons will be interesting since gaf will be split on whether they were kids or teenagers during that decade.
 
Superman was a great animated series in the 90's but I think both Batman and Batman beyond out performed it. Not by much mind you. Again, the list is getting really hard to vote on now. Most kills from here on out are going to be things that get double kills right after the tally and aren't people's top ten. Then eventually rinse repeat for #1.

If this begets a 00's thread though, Samurai Jack will take the cake for me.

80's thread would be fun but I don't think it would have enough participants.
Samurai Jack was some epic stuff. It would probably be my number 2 and first place would go to Venture Brothers. Venture Brothers has great mythology, great characters with actual development and so many mysteries to solve....oh and I would have to place Futurama, Robot Chicken, Sealab 2021 and Archer some where :/

Even the plain kiddy shows like Danny Phantom and Kim Possible were pretty good. 00s voting thread is going to be pretty interesting.
 
As far as I can tell, the top 10 will be :

Simpsons
Spongebob
one wildcard
and the seven superhero-themed shows

Ugh... Please, no. Let's kill of at least some of the superhero shows, like X-Men.


I really loved the Simpsons back when it was good, but man.. it winning would suck.

I'd rather have Batman TAS win.


You guys think so little of Ducktales and Animaniacs. :\

I will fight for Courage in at least the top 15 while everything else burns.

I'd like both DuckTales and Courage in the top 16 at least.


Spongebob and South Park should die a quick death in this thread so that they can live anew in 00's survivor.

I'm willing to kill of South Park.
 
Ren and Stimpy being gone this early is still some bullshit. I completely understand if people don't like the show, but come on that's one of the first things you think of for 90s cartoons. It was hugely influential and it holds up pretty well.

it may have been influential but i don't think it holds up well at all. stimpy's fan club, stimpy's cartoon, and sven hoek are about it.
 
I'll likely abstain from the ots (2000s) cartoon voting. I don't have a lot of memories or favorites from that decade.

I think the next crop I'd want a cut from is cartoon network shows, starting with Johnny Bravo.
 
I'll likely abstain from the ots (2000s) cartoon voting. I don't have a lot of memories or favorites from that decade.

So many great cartoons in that decade though, especially for older viewers as well. Archer, JLA, Samurai Jack, Sealab, Invader Zim, Clone High, Undergrads, South Park, Futurama, Teen Titans, Jackie Chan Adventures, Ben 10, Turtles, Venture Brothers, and my show of the decade, Avatar among many others.
 
Kill: Johnny Bravo
Kill: Johnny Bravo

Save: TMNT

Bravo was always a dull, annoying show. TMNT may have aged poorly, but at least it did its job of entertaining me when I was a little kid.
 
So many great cartoons in that decade though, especially for older viewers as well. Archer, JLA, Samurai Jack, Sealab, Invader Zim, Clone High, Undergrads, South Park, Futurama, Teen Titans, Jackie Chan Adventures, Ben 10, Turtles, Venture Brothers, and my show of the decade, Avatar among many others.

Oh yeah, totally, without question. I just don't think I'm tapped in enough to judge well enough.
 
I was still young enough when the oughts came around that there are plenty of shows I was into (Samurai Jack for instance). I don't know if I'll be up for it though; Let's see how the top 20 or so goes in this thread first.
 
So if this thread has 1 anime, Dragon Ball Z, will the 00 thread have also animes, or is DBZ a special case.
Also its really interesting watching this thread as people from america and europe would have totally different lists (even cartoons that would appear on one decade here while in another different one in the other, like DBZ, that is more of an 80's cartoon or South Park that got here on 99 iirc), up until the 00's, that when cartoons largely globalised so all countries got all cartoons on the same years.
There some amazing cartoons televised in europe during the 80's and 90's that sadly never crossed the ocean. And even if most of them were produce in europe the animation always camed from japan (which made this european cartoons look superb, like Miyazaki's Sherlock Hound).

A 00's thread could be interesting to see because it has a predominance of good adult cartoons while children cartoons start to go down in quality (not all of them thank god).
 
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