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[1UP] -- Another Code (review)
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mmmmmm, sounds fun.
Infernal Monkey
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So are 1UP going to compare every DS game to the PSP for no real reason in every review now?
"So here's this DS game, right. And there's this really neat looking part, but it doesn't look as good as Ridge Racers. I think I'll go play Ridge Racers"
*Reviewer gets up and leaves desk, review is never finished*
Prince said:yeah i was wondering that too, or will they also go like "Wipeout is nice and all but unlike the ds you can't steer with a stylus" at every psp review ?
Not to be argumentative, but this comparrison falls flat. In this review, however wrong, he compares the visuals to something that is superior in that category. You wouldn't compare Wipeout control to stylus steering since that is not the optimal "standard" of quality for control in this genre.
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BTW, is 8.0 the new 6.8 for DS games?
Amir0x said:
Regardless of the failed analogy, I think the poster is right to point this out. The handhelds are clearly from different generations of technology--hammering on that point in every single review is redundant and even a distraction for people who are aware of the strengths and weakness of their system and are mainly interested in hearing about the merits of a specific game. Hopefully that won't be the case in the future.
Look you guys. It's not your fault that the 3D graphics the NDS pushes pales in comparison to PSP. This is coming from a guy who is very upbeat about the Nintendo DS as a handheld, by the way, unlike a lot of "journalists". (I use this term lightly.)
Now whether Nintendo and Sony want to admit it, PSP and NDS are competing products. This is how the mainstream media has interpreted it, and this is how mainstream consumers are interrupting it. So if Madden looks better on PSP than NDS, you can expect me to point it out.
Look at it this way: If Xbox Live didn't exist, I wouldn't complain about the haphazard online setup of some PS2 games. Similarly, in a world without PSP, I'd probably comment that it's great we're in an age where we play 3D games like Another Code on a handheld.
PS: Another Code is a good game.
Now whether Nintendo and Sony want to admit it, PSP and NDS are competing products. This is how the mainstream media has interpreted it, and this is how mainstream consumers are interrupting it. So if Madden looks better on PSP than NDS, you can expect me to point it out.
Look at it this way: If Xbox Live didn't exist, I wouldn't complain about the haphazard online setup of some PS2 games. Similarly, in a world without PSP, I'd probably comment that it's great we're in an age where we play 3D games like Another Code on a handheld.
PS: Another Code is a good game.
Kobun Heat
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By the by, is it "Brad Edward Island?" I thought it was "Blood." I didn't see it in romaji anywhere though.
I don't think it's something that constantly needs restated. What if you don't have an Xbox, and you're perfectly happy with the PS2's online capabilities? In every Splinter Cell or Rainbow Six or Project: Snowblind review, do you constantly need to say, "THE XBOX ONLINE IS BETTER IT IS MORE STREAMLINED?" I think, after the initial judgment, that PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. Unless something changes and improves, it's not worth beating a dead horse. I think anyone who is reading your magazine or your site knows at this point that PSP GRAPHICS LOOK BETTER THAN DS GRAPHICS. I don't think, for the next year, that you need to make sure to point it out in every review.
Beyond that, are you really going to cater to the mainstream perception? The mainstream perception is everything with the EA label attached to it is gold. ... Wait, maybe ZD is playing to them ...
novery said:
Heh, don't bother justifying your console opinions to this person or that. Whenever someone who has invested a lot of time and energy into a single company and their products, they will find a way to toss around accusations of bias. I'm sure you've been told this before, but just ignore it
novery said:
I agree. Competing hand helds should be compared to each other. Of course, there SHOULD be some leeway given for comparrisons within its own platform. Obviously, Nintendo DS is never going to produce visuals on par with PSP.
Amir0x said:
But shouldn't he compare it within the limitations of the DS, so they could refrase it like: "Although its PS One-like 3D models are not pushing the limits of the DS..."
because we all know the gap between the PSP and DS is too big graphics wise wouldn't it be unfair to keep comparing it.
That why i took that example, your right that i choose a wrong one but what i'm trying to say is that they have both qualities that the other can't compare to, but does this need to come up in reviews, the games are being reviewed not the systems.
novery--I'm not trying to attack anyone, I'm just trying to explain what the other poster was getting at. IMO, if you don't already know the PSP kicks the DS's teeth in when it comes to 3D, there's no helping you. There's an obvious gap that won't be bridged by pointing it out on every single game. Your point does stand when it comes to multiplatform titles, though.
Speevy said:
Banned.
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Not what a lot of people were expecting/hoping for Meteos, though.AniHawk said:
Kobun Heat
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When I wrote my preview for NOM UK I used "Blood Edward" and "D." I figured it was "D" because
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it's an abbreviation of his first name Daniel
the Edwards were killed on the island and there's nobody named Brad that I've heard of so far (Chapter 4)
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I have to agree with the people saying bringing up the PSP is pointless. Who doesn't know the PSP is always going to be better looking than the DS? You might as well put a disclaimer at the bottom of every DS review saying:
If there's a PSP version of this DS game and you're an idiot and don't already realise this, the PSP version looks better and sounds better.
I know they're competing products, but it's something so obvious that the stupidest of gamers already know it. It's a fair bet that an Xbox game is going to look better than a PS2 equivalent, but they're close enough that you're never quite sure, so mentioning it is fair. But PSP to DS...if it's not this way for every single game released, then either some developers out of this world, or complete shite (or both).
If there's a PSP version of this DS game and you're an idiot and don't already realise this, the PSP version looks better and sounds better.
I know they're competing products, but it's something so obvious that the stupidest of gamers already know it. It's a fair bet that an Xbox game is going to look better than a PS2 equivalent, but they're close enough that you're never quite sure, so mentioning it is fair. But PSP to DS...if it's not this way for every single game released, then either some developers out of this world, or complete shite (or both).
Kobun Heat
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No! If you say your wish out loud, it doesn't come true!Soul4ger said:
Kobun Heat
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Brad's the grandfather? Either I missed that or it hasn't been talked about yet. There was that family tree but I don't feel like backtracking to find it...
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I am, but the fact that both games got an 8.0 (which isn't the excellence some people may have been hoping for) on the same day is what spurred the comment.AniHawk said:
I guess the DS / PSP comparisons are a short term thing we have to live with. In the long run, it would be nice if they just used it when it's necessary, like "This would have really suited the 16:9 ratio of the PSP" or "When I play this I can't help thinking how much easier it would be with a stylus control". Another Code just couldn't be done on the PSP, period. The comparison is just the result of this short term infatuation with all things PSP.
JackFrost2012
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Jonnyram said:
Not trying to troll here, but I honestly can't ever see myself saying something like that. Not to say that stylus control is bad; the games which use it do it well and I have fun with them. But those games were designed from the ground up with the stylus control in mind. I've never, ever played a "normal" game and thought, "I have a fever, and the only solution is more stylus!" In most instances I think stylus control would add an unnecessary level of frustration and complexity to the game scheme.
If game would be easier with stylus control, then it's probably already on the DS with stylus control. ... I'd think.
JackFrost2012
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Jonnyram said:
Moji Pittan's my most played game on PSP after Lumines and Ridge Racers, so I can see your point. The PSP control never bothered me, but I think a stylus would be a suitable and decent scheme. I'd imagine they didn't release it on the DS because:
1) There's no immediately obvious way to use both screens. Yeah, you could make one, but it would be like inventing rules for two-board Scrabble. Using the stylus to place pieces would just compoud this problem.
2) The incredibly awesome music would have taken a terrible quality hit.
3) Your average DS user has yet to develop the vocabulary required for a complex word game, being twelve.
There's no reason to use every last feature of the DS in every single game. The top screen could show you words you've made so you have longer than 1 second to read them, or it could show other stats, or just show a nice picture. Something like Zoo Keeper. I have a hard time taking in both screens unless the game was designed like that (like Yoshi).JackFrost2012 said:
This is a sacrifice I'd be more than willing to make. The music is good but more often than not, I play this particular game with the volume off
Baseless assumption time. I would guess those kids are not going to be buying the Adult brain training and Dictionary software too right? But why did the Club Nintendo users over 19 raise from 49% to 59% when the DS came out?3) Your average DS user has yet to develop the vocabulary required for a complex word game, being twelve.
Meh, no point squabbling. I know you hate the DS since you publicly admitted it on your journal
:lolJackFrost2012
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Jonny, I can't believe you fell for my obvious bait. I expected better. 
And I don't hate the DS. I hate the DS' current, miserable software selection, sure. But I remain neutral on the hardware.
And I don't hate the DS. I hate the DS' current, miserable software selection, sure. But I remain neutral on the hardware.
Crankenstein
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JackFrost2012 said:
When people say/write this it gives me reason to be wary of this person's "objectivity".