2010/11 NBA Dec |OT| of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7lMXXaUaIo PEACE

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Forceatowulf said:
You know it's funny.. I remember the Lakers getting trolled like this last year as well, only the subject then was the lack of road games they had played at the time. I forget, how did that season turn out again? Oh right...

It's like a vicious troll cycle every year. The haters get a hold of any little thing they can get their hands on and they run with it as if it means something in the long run, when in fact it means absolutely nothing.

I also find it quite funny that fans of teams who got their sorry asses swept in the playoffs last year, or didn't even make it IN, are talking big shit early in the season. Fucking hysterical.
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No one was trolling the Lakers then. It was more like complaining.
 
Forceatowulf said:
You know it's funny.. I remember the Lakers getting trolled like this last year as well, only the subject then was the lack of road games they had played at the time. I forget, how did that season turn out again? Oh right...

It's like a vicious troll cycle every year. The haters get a hold of any little thing they can get their hands on and they run with it as if it means something in the long run, when in fact it means absolutely nothing.

I also find it quite funny that fans of teams who got their sorry asses swept in the playoffs last year, or didn't even make it IN, are talking big shit early in the season. Fucking hysterical.
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That is all true but I don't want to face a healthy Celtics or Spurs team without homecourt. Kobe is the only mentally tough guy on the team who I trust to go on the road and kick ass.

Plus something has been very "off" about Gasol in the last month. I was embarrassed to see him get outplayed by Spencer Hawes in Philly. He better get his shit together soon.
 
KingGondo said:
This is how you act after a solid road win?

Just enjoy it. Suns will be looking good after Wince, Gortat and Pietrus arrive. They weren't looking good for the playoffs before, now they should definitely be in.
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My comments weren't made win or lose, they were in reply to Tyler saying that the OKC offense is all about getting to the line. I've been saying it all year, about the heat too.

KingGondo said:
You obviously didn't watch the Phoenix game. If OKC had been knocking down its open shots (which they tend to do) they would have won this game going away, even if their defense made Grant Hill look like he was in his prime.

They don't win games on the offensive end anyways: they win when they clamp down on defense, which they completely failed to do last night. But of course, I assume you'd know that since you're such an expert on the Thunder.
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If the thunder hadn't been given about 15 one sided foul calls that phx didn't get on the other end, it also would've been a blow out by 20 more points. You guys got bailed out so much it was ridiculous, while the suns were being knocked around and hacked. But thats on the refs not OKC. But we're just throwing wild if scenarios around.

You guys got zowned. You were forced to take a lot of contested long jumpers against the zone, if OKC were knocking them down, they would've changed back to man to man. But OKC weren't, from memory durant shot about 1 - 6 from 3 and about 4 - 18 from the field.

Also, ibaka isn't your C of the future by the looks, you need kristic back, asap. I thought ibaka would've been better than he was last night, but Lopez seemed to do what he wanted, i mean, you guys were running doubles at lopez all the time :|

And yeah, that OKC team need to figure out their D, because thats what got you there last year, and it really hasn't shown up so far this year.
 
bionic77 said:
That is all true but I don't want to face a healthy Celtics or Spurs team without homecourt. Kobe is the only mentally tough guy on the team who I trust to go on the road and kick ass.
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Czzz, I agree.

5pur5, no.

2-2-1-1-1 is a helluva lot more doable than 2-3-2, even with fractured confidence of the role players.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
Czzz, I agree.

5pur5, no.

2-2-1-1-1 is a helluva lot more doable than 2-3-2, even with fractured confidence of the role players.
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Yeah I am a little more worried about the Celtics too, but the way Gasol has been playing recently even Duncan's corpse could drop 30 and 15 on him.

I am not going to worry until after the ASG though. I imagine that is when Kobe and Gasol want to start getting ready for the three-peat run.
 
giri said:
Also, ibaka isn't your C of the future by the looks, you need kristic back, asap. I thought ibaka would've been better than he was last night, but Lopez seemed to do what he wanted, i mean, you guys were running doubles at lopez all the time :|

And yeah, that OKC team need to figure out their D, because thats what got you there last year, and it really hasn't shown up so far this year.
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I agree that Ibaka is not gonna be a C, but most Thunder fans' desire to see him in the starting lineup is balanced with the idea that Scotty Brooks will NEVER remove Jeff Green from the starting lineup, no matter how mediocre he is at PF.

I still think Krstic has value for us, but strictly as a backup C. But unless Cole Aldrich suddenly develops into a viable starter, it's Krstic for us.

And yes, we have to learn to play better against the zone, or everyone in the league will start playing it against us.
 
KingGondo said:
I agree that Ibaka is not gonna be a C, but most Thunder fans' desire to see him in the starting lineup is balanced with the idea that Scotty Brooks will NEVER remove Jeff Green from the starting lineup, no matter how mediocre he is at PF.
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Understandable. You can't just bench Ryan Gomes like that.
 
Rodeo Clown said:
Understandable. You can't just bench Ryan Gomes like that.
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I actually posted that on Daily Thunder, and someone else responded with a comparison of Marvin Williams and Jeff Green.

They're all very similar statistically, but Gomes makes $4 million/year and Marvin makes an average of about $7 million over 4 years.

Only difference between those guys is their draft pedigree, and obviously Green is gonna want Marvin Williams money. If you're gonna pay a starting power forward that kind of money, he needs to have a noticeable impact on the game when he's on the floor--I see that in Serge Ibaka, not in Jeff Green.
 
KingGondo said:
And yes, we have to learn to play better against the zone, or everyone in the league will start playing it against us.
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That was the Achilles heel of the Jazz last year, until quite literally the Achilles heel became Okur's injury.
 
KingGondo said:
I agree that Ibaka is not gonna be a C, but most Thunder fans' desire to see him in the starting lineup is balanced with the idea that Scotty Brooks will NEVER remove Jeff Green from the starting lineup, no matter how mediocre he is at PF.

I still think Krstic has value for us, but strictly as a backup C. But unless Cole Aldrich suddenly develops into a viable starter, it's Krstic for us.

And yes, we have to learn to play better against the zone, or everyone in the league will start playing it against us.
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Unless ibaka can get some post moves going, he's not really a great starter either. Not unless he develops into a serious defensive anchor, like noah. At the moment he's a good rebounder, spectacular shot blocker, and amazing athlete. But i'm not sure if on the block or the P'n'R D, he's that great. And i've never seen any real range from him. And thats why he's not starting over Green. Green atleast spaces the floor, if nothing else.

Though i've always agreed, Green should be off the bench, ideally.

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:lol
 
Jeff-DSA said:
That was the Achilles heel of the Jazz last year, until quite literally the Achilles heel became Okur's injury.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm still very happy that we're 19-9 with a good division record... But I'm starting to think that we need to make some big moves to truly become a contender. Our weaknesses to start the season are still our weaknesses now: lack of 3PT shooting and no strong defensive big.

Keep:

Westbrook
Maynor
Sefolosha
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
Collison
Aldrich

Everyone else is expendable for the right price. Trade Green and a couple scrubs for Varejao, trade Mo Pete and Daequan Cook for a guy who can actually knock down threes, etc.

giri said:
Unless ibaka can get some post moves going, he's not really a great starter either. Not unless he develops into a serious defensive anchor, like noah. At the moment he's a good rebounder, spectacular shot blocker, and amazing athlete. But i'm not sure if on the block or the P'n'R D, he's that great. And i've never seen any real range from him. And thats why he's not starting over Green. Green atleast spaces the floor, if nothing else.
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Serge actually has a surprisingly smooth feathery jumper. Underrated aspect of his game. He will be our starting PF next year unless we idiotically match some other team's offer for Green.
 
KingGondo said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm still very happy that we're 19-9 with a good division record... But I'm starting to think that we need to make some big moves to truly become a contender. Our weaknesses to start the season are still our weaknesses now: lack of 3PT shooting and no strong defensive big.

Keep:

Westbrook
Maynor
Sefolosha
Harden
Durant
Ibaka
Collison
Aldrich

Everyone else is expendable for the right price. Trade Green and a couple scrubs for Varejao, trade Mo Pete and Daequan Cook for a guy who can actually knock down threes, etc.

Serge actually has a surprisingly smooth feathery jumper. Underrated aspect of his game. He will be our starting PF next year unless we idiotically match some other team's offer for Green.
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Put sefolosha, maynor, harden, ibaka, collison, aldrich all on the trading block. individually none of those guys are putting you over the top. Obviously it would be silly to trade them all for 2 players. But if they're the missing piece to a trade, i thank them for the time and effort in OKC, and wish them well at their new team.
 
giri said:
Put sefolosha, maynor, harden, ibaka, collison, aldrich all on the trading block. individually none of those guys are putting you over the top. Obviously it would be silly to trade them all for 2 players. But if they're the missing piece to a trade, i thank them for the time and effort in OKC, and wish them well at their new team.
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Don't get me wrong--nobody is untouchable except KD and Westbrook. Ibaka is close just because he is such a unique player whose potential has yet to be tapped.

As for the other guys:

Maynor: Hard to find a truly quality backup PG, and we got him for cheap

Sefolosha: Still one of the best one-on-one defenders in the league, and is also on a cheap contract

Harden: I'd be willing to part with him if we are able to retain Green for cheap and bring Uncle Jeff off the bench: Green is a more reliable scorer than Harden at this point

Ibaka: No, just no.

Collison: One of the most underrated players in the league, he's cheap, and every contending team needs a guy to do the dirty work.

Aldrich: I only listed him because he has so much potential, but we'll be lucky to get anything out of him this year. He's still cheap for a guy with that size and pedigree, though.
 
Derrick Favors
James Larden
OJ Mehyo
Al Horford
Adam Morrison



Which player doesn't belong?

lol @ Blunder/Plunder for drafting Larden when they could have had Curry or Evans.
 
Maybe Harden is like a reverse-Samson, and he needs to shave that ridiculous beard.

I could definitely see it.

Adam Blade said:
lol @ Blunder/Plunder for drafting Larden when they could have had Curry or Evans.
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Meh. It was a weak draft besides Blake, and we made the safe pick. It's not like Curry or Evans has been lighting the league on fire this year either.

I just wish Harden was playing better so we could trade him for something of value. He's been playing better as of late, so maybe there's hope.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
I know!

I was just comfirming the popular sentiment.
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Oh, cool. We shall call it the...

Triple Troll Combo Score.

KingGondo said:
Maybe Harden is like a reverse-Samson, and he needs to shave that ridiculous beard.

I could definitely see it.

Meh. It was a weak draft besides Blake, and we made the safe pick. It's not like Curry or Evans has been lighting the league on fire this year either.

I just wish Harden was playing better so we could trade him for something of value. He's been playing better as of late, so maybe there's hope.
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Curry's averaing 20PPG on 49FG% in 20 games. He's really damn close to being a 50-40-90 player. What are you smoking?
 
Over/under on how much the Jazz get behind in the 1st quarter? If it's 8, I'll take the over. It seems like we're the most disinterested team in the world for the first 10 minutes and then we turn it on for the rest of the game.
 
Rodeo Clown said:
The Jonny Flynn pick hurts so bad.
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Yeah, no kidding. How many players with such high usage rating averaged 50-40-90? Steve Nash has done it a few times the past few years. Reggie Miller did it once, and came super close in 1990. John Stockton never did it, but he was damn close if he could hit his freethrows a tiny bit better. Steve Kerr did it twice, but he didn't average nowhere near the amount of shots. Chris Paul came close in 2009. I can't think of anyone else.

Who knows if he'll keep it up, but I wouldn't be shocked if he gets to the 50-40-90 mark. Doing it at such a young age must be unprecedented, but I could be wrong.
 
Dark FaZe said:
Hopefully you're not saying the same stuff about Rubio...
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The only thing I'm worried about with Rubio is a lockout keeping him from the Wolves for another year. He actually plays well against professionals. He's good.
 
Rodeo Clown said:
The only thing I'm worried about with Rubio is a lockout keeping him from the Wolves for another year. He actually plays well against professionals. He's good.
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So did Rudy at one point. Just saying.
 
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