Red Blaster
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I thought it would take a while for Mike Brown's idiocy to come through but not on day one
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2012-13 Oct/Nov NBA Season |OT| Mavericks Attempt To Defend Title
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Mike Brown doesn't know what an offensive system is.
weekend_warrior
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Ah, the awkward half-time banter, how I missed you.
theignoramus
Member
Shaq makes shit awkward. where's C-Webb.
Sho_Nuff82
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The whole TNT crew just trashed the O. It's a waste of Nash and Dwight to not run the offense through them.
Knux-Future
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Yeah but Bibby and BJack were glorified shooting guards. Also they didn't win shit either.
That shit doesn't work anymore in today's league either way.
They have Nash..so going to an offense where he is basically a spot up shooter is fucking stupid.
This is alot of my hatred for Eddie Jordan (as a coach...nice guy IIRC) but yeah this offense is assssssss
StickSoldier
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StickSoldier
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Uh oh Ernie, you mentioned the Mavericks, that's gonna get you in trouble.
Black Mamba
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Over reaction from one half of offense is hilarious.
Lakers would be up if they made a decent ft percentage. Lazy tos hurt too.
Poor defensive rebounding is why they haven't take. A lot of shots.
Lakers would be up if they made a decent ft percentage. Lazy tos hurt too.
Poor defensive rebounding is why they haven't take. A lot of shots.
And Brown said he would let Nash choose what he wants to run. Just give us 1/5 PnRs!
MorisUkunRasik
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The offense has been a mess all preseason and previous season. Brown can't coach an O.
Why Nash isn't dominating the ball...I don't know. It was evident in pre season that every was tentative or something Brown needs to go.
Why Nash isn't dominating the ball...I don't know. It was evident in pre season that every was tentative or something Brown needs to go.
MidnightCowboy
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Only Mike Brown would think the offensive system that utilizes his all time great point guard the worst would be the best option for this team.
The Princeton is about being smarter and outworking your opponent. It supposed to give less athletically gifted teams a chance. You're supposed to run the break when you can in the Princeton since pushing the pace counts as outworking your opponent.
That Kings team got straight up robbed when they met up with the Lakers.
Xplatformer
Member
You guys realize...
1) Steve Nash is 50
2) Pau is a center playing PF
3) Dwight Howard is recovering from back surgery
4) World Peace kills the offense
I'm not defending the Princeton offense, but expecting this old ass starting five of the Lakers to run the floor in the first real game of the season is unrealistic.
The missed free throws and the turnovers bug me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy more than anything the TNT crew brought up.
WesternHeretic
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Isn't the true Princeton offense build to cover for players who don't have talent (or extreme quickness)? Because players are constantly in motion you're not dependent on that super star to create for others or blow by anyone.
Black Mamba
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Lakers shooting 55%. OH MY GOD THE OFFENSE SUCKS!!!
theignoramus
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I think Nash would love to run when he's out on the floor. he cant do it the whole game, but when he's on the floor? oh you know he wants to put that pedal down.
Yes. Its about basketball iq and outworking your opponent. That's the philosophy behind it. So running on the break would fit in with outworking your opponent. They aren't doing that though.
Knux-Future
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It also covers for not having a true point guard.
That's why the Sixers ran it......and yet we failed miserabally.
It takes too long for plays to develop and it becomes predictable...and even if it does work.
THE LAKERS HAVE STEVE FUCKING NASH.
You don't need the Princeton offense with him. Whether he's 80 or not doesn't matter. I get taking some plays from it or running it occasionally. but all de time? is just dumb.
it's like having an option-offense in the NFL.
A'int nobody got time for that.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
24 minutes in, and the Laker Big 4 experiment has failed, trade everybody!
This reminds me of the short time where terry porter took over the suns and completely fucked up the suns by playing halfcourt. It won't work with nash, ever.
and what is mike brown there for? i get that he cant coach offense but their defense has been shit too.
yea yea working out the kinks, new team, all that bullshit but look at the talent on that starting 5 its not like this mavs team has been playing for years either.
and what is mike brown there for? i get that he cant coach offense but their defense has been shit too.
yea yea working out the kinks, new team, all that bullshit but look at the talent on that starting 5 its not like this mavs team has been playing for years either.
The true princeton... there is no real such thing as it has tons of sets that do what you say, and also has lots of clean shots for shooters, but also has sets for guys who can just turn on the jets and slash to the rim off a screen.
NBA teams tend to just run the sets that are specific to their players.
Xplatformer
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Prototype-03
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So it's built for a team with Luke Waltons?
Ninja Scooter
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They are shooting 55% and only have 46 points (with Nash, Howard, Pau and Kobe). I do think that a lot of the complaints are a little sky is falling, but the TNT crew do bring up some points. I hope that as the season progresses we will see more of Nash and Dwight getting a greater role in the offense.
Actually, that's the one thing it really does cover for. Much like the triangle.
Black Mamba
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Knux-Future
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Of course it is early..so maybe they can get it too work.
I'd cut back on it a bit tho..more P&Rs IMO.
I just really dislike the princeton offense so don't mind my slight rage over it.
I'd cut back on it a bit tho..more P&Rs IMO.
I just really dislike the princeton offense so don't mind my slight rage over it.
Ninja Scooter
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I think it's part overreaction mixed in with some truth, but the truth part of it (Nash and Howard not looking comfortable in the offense) is something that is natural in the 1st game of the season.
Red Blaster
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6/14 free throws in a half will happen all the time with Dwight on the team
The Insane Dufresne
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Good pass.....
Sho_Nuff82
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This fucking game, lol.
brianjones
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oof
Knux-Future
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A lot of the panic also have to do with most expecting Dallas to be complete booty juice...myself included.
I like this roster in spots.
Except Vince....he just makes my soul hurt. Not like this bro.
I like this roster in spots.
Except Vince....he just makes my soul hurt. Not like this bro.
Yeah if they would stop playing like shit, they would be dominating this game.
The biggest thing is, that this team basically never really practiced together.
And with Dwight coming back from Back Surgery... he's not going to be him self for 15 games as he feels his way back to some sort of confidence.
This may sound harsh/dumb, but they really should simplify their shit for the first 30 games, and just have it as a Dwight / Nash PnR offense with Kobe as the shooter/slashing option, and build from there.