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[Dominican Power]

I'd rather have Bron taking those shots than whatever scrub he defers to because it's the "best basketball play"

He responds to criticism in the worst possible way. It's like the Kobe suns game x 100.

If Lebron asserted himself and took over games at the end I know he could actually produce but he would rather pass it so he could say he put his team in the best possible position to win.

As a wizards fan I hate him for other reasons but cavs Bron > heat Bron

LeBron can ball out like he did with The Cavs, but now he has perennial all stars in Wade/Bosh to defer to. And he still puts up stats that are on par with his career averages.

 

[The Frankman]

You wouldn't be able to convince me that Larry Brown ruined every single rookie and draft that he was a part of here.

If your players just stood up and learned to play the right way maybe they'd be halfway decent.

 

[DY_nasty]

If your players just stood up and learned to play the right way maybe they'd be halfway decent.

Halfway decent is already more than the Knicks can handle.

 

[CommonSense]

Other countries poach NBA players for international ball all the time. Russia, England... don't be surprised if Australia ponies up for LIL KYRIE in London as well.

Kyrie already said no. Wants to play for team USA in 2018.

 

[Blackace]

Yeah, and they don't have to play on the national team. It's 100% their choice.

Just like they can choose to play pickup at the gym. But hey, the USOC will pay for all their travel, hotel, food, among other things while they visit a foreign country and experience shit.

WAAAAAHHHHHHH

No one is whining but you.. Wade and Allen believes that people are making money off their backs and that they should get paid for jeresy sales and other goods..

He should bring it if he believes that, and I believe they should get paid for that as well...

 

[DY_nasty]

Kyrie already said no. Wants to play for team USA in 2018.

Ben Gordon said no at first too.

Now he's hooping for England.

And the WNBA is a merc-league.

 

[CommonSense]

Ben Gordon said no at first too.

Now he's hooping for England.

And the WNBA is a merc-league.

Kyrie =/= Gordon


One of them has a chance to be an annual all-star.

 

[Blackace]

Kyrie =/= Gordon

Money talks

 

[DY_nasty]

Kyrie =/= Gordon

Both were prominent rookies...

One of them has a chance to be an annual all-star.

6th man of the year in his rookie year

 

[CommonSense]

Money talks

Correct and the money he'll get from advertising on team usa will be quite nice...also like i said he has already said no. Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[CommonSense]

Both were prominent rookies...

6th man of the year in his rookie year

You're not really comparing Kyrie and Ben Gordon...are you?

 

[diehard]

You're not really comparing Kyrie and Ben Gordon...are you?

you say that like its such a wild comparison

 

[Blackace]

You're not really comparing Kyrie and Ben Gordon...are you?

Why is that so upsetting? Ben was very very good on. The Bulls.. Kyrie will most likely be way better but it isn't an insult or something

 

[diehard]

Gordon did what Kyrie will never do

play a full season.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Whatever happened to Ben Gordon? Seems like he just randomly ended up on the Pistons and has been a non factor since

 

[DY_nasty]

And lets be honest... 6th man of the year is a lot more meaningful than rookie of the year.

At least I've always felt that way. It means you actually had an impact on a season (barring a competitive ROTY race)

 

[CommonSense]

Why is that so upsetting? Ben was very very good on. The Bulls.. Kyrie will most likely be way better but it isn't an insult or something

Because the only thing Ben Gordon is known for is not having any fear of jacking 3's.

 

[Blackace]

And lets be honest... 6th man of the year is a lot more meaningful than rookie of the year.

At least I've always felt that way. It means you actually had an impact on a season (barring a competitive ROTY race)

Both aren't all that meaningful...

I remember when the Pacers played Det 38 mins a game but didn't start him

 

[CommonSense]

Gordon did what Kyrie will never do

play a full season.

Kyrie could be playing right now...respect the tank.

 

[DY_nasty]

Because the only thing Ben Gordon is known for is not having any fear of jacking 3's.

Okay.

Did you watch basketball back in 2004?

 

[Blackace]

Because the only thing Ben Gordon is known for is not having any fear of jacking 3's.

Guess you just started following basketball then..

On the Bulls he was a beast

 

[Blackace]

Okay.

Did you watch basketball back in 2004?

Stay out of my head Charles

 

[pilonv1]

Kyrie already said no. Wants to play for team USA in 2018.

Lil Kyrie can GTFO, I'll stick with Patty Mills

 

[DY_nasty]

Both aren't all that meaningful...

I remember when the Pacers played Det 38 mins a game but didn't start him

It at least shows that the winner had an impact on a team that season.

ROTY is nothing but a $tat$ award the majority of the time.

 

[Blackace]

It at least shows that the winner had an impact on a team that season.

ROTY is nothing but a $tat$ award the majority of the time.

Awards are all stats.. ROTY is a feel good award because it means your team has hope..

6th is a good award too... Random thought..Who was the last non-SG to win tho?

 

[CommonSense]

Gordon did what Kyrie will never do

play a full season.

Okay.

Did you watch basketball back in 2004?

His 2004 wasn't as nice as Kyrie's rook year and you know it. tGo ahead, pull up the $tat$...make sure you find game winners too.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Awards are all stats.. ROTY is a feel good award because it means your team has hope..

6th is a good award too... Random thought..Who was the last non-SG to win tho?

Spoiler

lamar

before him Antawn jamison

 

[DY_nasty]

His 2004 wasn't as nice as Kyrie's rook year and you know it. tGo ahead, pull up the $tat$...make sure you find game winners too.

the stats thing was just an aside because i'm still bitter about the okafor's annual regression as a player and as a person - but it doesn't really push aside my point of

excitingrotycandidatesayinghelovesUSAbutwillplayoverseasinaheartbeatifitmeanspushinghisownbrand

besides, Kyrie is lucky that the US basketball program is what is now. The farm system they've developed almost ensures he stays within the program for years even if he doesn't play in the bigger tournaments and events.

Also, if you really want to run Kyrie > Gordon thing, Gordon got into the playoffs his rookie year and did it with it garbage too.

 

[Blackace]

His 2004 wasn't as nice as Kyrie's rook year and you know it. tGo ahead, pull up the $tat$...make sure you find game winners too.

Actually their stats are very comparable..

Irving is a little better but played less games and more mins per games..

I don't know why you are so irate about them being compared

 

[CommonSense]

the stats thing was just an aside because i'm still bitter about the okafor's annual regression as a player and as a person - but it doesn't really push aside my point of

excitingrotycandidatesayinghelovesUSAbutwillplayoverseasinaheartbeatifitmeanspushinghisownbrand

besides, Kyrie is lucky that the US basketball program is what is now. The farm system they've developed almost ensures he stays within the program for years even if he doesn't play in the bigger tournaments and events.

Also, if you really want to run Kyrie > Gordon thing, Gordon got into the playoffs his rookie year and did it with it garbage too.

Fair enough...

But c'mon man the only reason the cavs aren't the worst team in the league is because of the bobcats and wizards...the bulls were a little better.

 

[DY_nasty]

Actually their stats are very comparable..

Irving is a little better but played less games and more mins per games..

I don't know why you are so irate about them being compared

BG was clutch as fuck too.

 

[Blackace]

Fair enough...

But c'mon man the only reason the cavs aren't the worst team in the league is because of the bobcats and wizards...the bulls were a little better.

And that makes his stats a bit more impressive...

 

[CommonSense]

BG was clutch as fuck too.

Then Kyrie is clutch as a double fuck.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Cavs had a good run for a while there though

 

[CommonSense]

Wait happened to cloving steam?

 

[Blackace]

Then Kyrie is clutch as a double fuck.

Got to win games to be clutch..

 

[CommonSense]

Cavs had a good run for a while there though

WAhich is why we had to shut it down bro..Balling for Beal.

 

[Adam Blade]

NeoCavs?

NeoCavs.

 

[CommonSense]

Got to win games to be clutch..

He won what..like 6 this year by carrying his team in the 4th? Like 25% of the Cav's wins were becausr of his play in the last 5 minutes.

 

[DY_nasty]

Then Kyrie is clutch as a double fuck.

Hence the "Did you watch basketball in 2004?" thing. He was the best scorer on a playoff team in his rookie year in the league. Everyone watching remembers him lighting Washington on fire and shitting on prime Arenas in his playoff debut.

Kyrie is the best scorer on a bottom rung team with Antwan Jamison as the 2nd best scorer. That's ...neat.

I wasn't even trying to compare the two head to head but I mean geez... what has Kyrie done?

 

[CommonSense]

NeoCavs?

NeoCavs.

NeoFlops?

NeoFlops.

 

[CommonSense]

Hence the "Did you watch basketball in 2004?" thing. He was the best scorer on a playoff team in his rookie year in the league. Everyone watching remembers him lighting Washington on fire and shitting on prime Arenas in his playoff debut.

Kyrie is the best scorer on a bottom rung team with Antwan Jamison as the 2nd best scorer. That's ...neat.

I wasn't even trying to compare the two head to head but I mean geez... what has Kyrie done?

Put Ben Gordon on the cav's in place of Kyrie and we're right on your ass for Davis...probably 10 wins.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Kyrie is pretty absurdly efficient though

 

[DY_nasty]

Put Ben Gordon on the cav's in place of Kyrie and we're right on your ass for Davis...probably 10 wins.

Put Kobe on the Saints and they rape just as many white girls.

 

[CommonSense]

Put Kobe on the Saints and they rape just as many white girls.

Lol...+1

 

[Adam Blade]

NeoFlops?

NeoFlops.

 

[CommonSense]

Which one am I?

 

[Gabyskra]

Then Kyrie is clutch as a double fuck.

Err, when it comes to asshole daggers, 2009 Ben Gordon is where it's at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhiGbklVUms

He had the 4th quarter balls that Derrick Rose & LeBron will never have. Kyrie can be clutch all he wants on a .345 team.

Man you're already a pain, but you're going to be worse when your team gets to average level.

 

[Blackace]

The look on his face is priceless

 

[Westlo]

Supercool Beas does it again... man I hope he finally gets his game right one day..

Because the only thing Ben Gordon is known for is not having any fear of jacking 3's.

Please watch that classic Celtics vs Bulls playoff series before posting in this thread again.