2012 NBA Feb |OT2| Kobe Bryant is a MAN

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msdstc said:
Wait are we seriously saying Lin? I thought this was trolling. I like the guy, he could be really good, but he's nowhere near Rondo from a PG perspective.
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Haha, I'm glad someone got it.

Rondo sucks though.

CP>all when you are talking about pure point.
 
Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
Don't feel that way at all. Rondo is still the best pure point guard in the league. The way this team is structured, he is playing about where he should be.
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I don't know... I think Paul and Williams are better pure PGs.. plus they shoot above 62% from the FT line..

Rondo is good.. he should use this year to work on his post game.. He could be the next GP or Kidd. GP had no jumper when he came in the league and used his post game in half court sets.. Kidd did as well to a degree..
 
CommonSense said:
Youust not be watching tonight then. Kyrie is beasting rondo
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So because of one game all of a sudden someones better? That's besides the point. Anyways he has 3 assists... 3 in 26 minutes. Just because he can score does not make him a good point guard. CP3 and Steve Nash are the rarest of the bunch where they are at an elite level in both regards.
 
msdstc said:
So because of one game all of a sudden someones better? That's besides the point. Anyways he has 3 assists... 3 in 26 minutes. Just because he can score does not make him a good point guard. CP3 and Steve Nash are the rarest of the bunch where they are at an elite level in both regards.
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Regale me with his plethora of options.
 
Blackace said:
I don't know... I think Paul and Williams are better pure PGs.. plus they shoot above 62% from the FT line..

Rondo is good.. he should use this year to work on his post game.. He could be the next GP or Kidd. GP had no jumper when he came in the league and used his post game in half court sets.. Kidd did as well to a degree..
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FT is his embarrassing category. Rondo would be an absolute monster on any of the top teams currently.

I like Paul. Not sold on Williams.
 
Blackace said:
I don't know... I think Paul and Williams are better pure PGs.. plus they shoot above 62% from the FT line..

Rondo is good.. he should use this year to work on his post game.. He could be the next GP or Kidd. GP had no jumper when he came in the league and used his post game in half court sets.. Kidd did as well to a degree..
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I don't get to watch a ton of Deron, but I think it's close. That being said when Rondo really goes out and wants to play, he's ahead of them by a fair amount IMO. He's wingspan and handsize allow for him to move the ball unlike any other, on top of that his timing is perfect, and his vision is incredible.

They've clearly learned that in order to contain Rondo just stay far back. If he had a jump shot I really think he'd be one of the best players in the league, but he's awful at it, same reason he's scared to take the ball to the rim.
 
Blackace said:
When the hack-a-shaq play works on your PG it is not good..
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Automatic 4 on 5 on offense 3 on 5 when they had Perk or JO etc...They are better off throwing the season and having him get the green light on jumpers and just keep shooting them regardless when they give him the open shot.
 
Again, why the fuck is Antawn Jamison in the game?!

msdstc said:
So because of one game all of a sudden someones better? That's besides the point. Anyways he has 3 assists... 3 in 26 minutes. Just because he can score does not make him a good point guard. CP3 and Steve Nash are the rarest of the bunch where they are at an elite level in both regards.
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The team shot in the 30s for the first half. He can't make shots for people.
 
CommonSense said:
Regale me with his plethora of options.
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Huh? D. Will is on the nets... Steve Nash is on the suns... who the hell do they have out there? ALso I don't know how much Celts basketball you've watched this year, but really these guys are not the same as they used to be.
 
http://www.basketball-reference.com...1&y1=2012&p2=anthoca01&y2=2012#advanced::none

Carmelo has a .016 advantage on Wes Johnson in eFG%. He also has twice the usage.

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Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
FT is his embarrassing category. Rondo would be an absolute monster on any of the top teams currently.

I like Paul. Not sold on Williams.
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Williams has shown me he is a whiny little punk.. but when he plays with passion he is more complete than Rondo... not by much, would be interesting to see how he meshes with 2 other top notch scorers..

Paul is a beast..

FT is shameful.. not having much of a jumper is semi excusable.. but shooting under 70% for your career from the line is not..

But he NEEDS a post game... the NBA needs a PG with mad post moves again..
 
Blackace said:
Williams has shown me he is a whiny little punk.. but when he plays with passion he is more complete than Rondo... not by much, would be interesting to see how he meshes with 2 other top notch scorers..

Paul is a beast..

FT is shameful.. not having much of a jumper is semi excusable.. but shooting under 70% for your career from the line is not..

But he NEEDS a post game... the NBA needs a PG with mad post moves again..
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Williams is still a scumbag for the Sloan debacle. Besides that, he doesn't generate nearly as many turnovers as both Paul and Rondo. I don't see him flourishing on a team with actual talent.

I agree with Rondo's FT being shameful. I'm pretty sure I can look up HoF points and see nobody even close to his percentage.
 
msdstc said:
I don't get to watch a ton of Deron, but I think it's close. That being said when Rondo really goes out and wants to play, he's ahead of them by a fair amount IMO. He's wingspan and handsize allow for him to move the ball unlike any other, on top of that his timing is perfect, and his vision is incredible.

They've clearly learned that in order to contain Rondo just stay far back. If he had a jump shot I really think he'd be one of the best players in the league, but he's awful at it, same reason he's scared to take the ball to the rim.
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He is not better than Paul.. it really isn't close..

Williams maybe, at this point, but not Paul.

Ifs doesn't make him better...
 
Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
Williams is still a scumbag for the Sloan debacle. Besides that, he doesn't generate nearly as many turnovers as both Paul and Rondo. I don't see him flourishing on a team with actual talent.
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I don't know.. I think he would beast on the Lakers..
 
Blackace said:
Williams has shown me he is a whiny little punk.. but when he plays with passion he is more complete than Rondo... not by much, would be interesting to see how he meshes with 2 other top notch scorers..

Paul is a beast..

FT is shameful.. not having much of a jumper is semi excusable.. but shooting under 70% for your career from the line is not..

But he NEEDS a post game... the NBA needs a PG with mad post moves again..
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Deron is definitely more complete, but really Rondo is one of the whiniest in the league so they both share that downfall... again when Rondo is trying I really do think from a pure point stand point he's got a step on Deron. Also yeah Rondo has been great in the post for those rare times he's actually down there.
 
thekad said:
Paul averages 2.3 turnovers. Deron averages 4.
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He's saying steals and disrupting the offense.

edit- btw Deron only averages 3 for his career... he's up because he's clearly pissed this year.

edit edit- Also Rondo on The lakers would be ridiculousssss.
 
Tom Penny said:
It's a real possibility so be careful what you wish for.
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I don't have any faith in Danny, so I'm going to wish for more wishes and get disqualified.

I grew up watching the Celtics in the twilight years. Saw my favorite player die. Accepted the fact the best we could get were Dino Radja and the Eric Montrosses of the world. This team was designed for a specific purpose in mind and we achieved that goal and beyond. I fully believe in assisted suicide.
 
The Bulls really should be concerned with the regression of Taj and Omer. Omer just hasn't developed, but I think Taj is sick of being a backup, and he's playing like it. He'll be gone, unless Boozer is out first.
 
Rodeo Clown said:
When did the DeRozan backlash begin?
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couple weeks ago.

He's been pretty terrible this season.

Had so much promise last year, and maybe he came in unprepared and all that this season, but I've just been disappointed so far. I thought he had a legit shot at being a very good SG.

Very unconvinced of that now.


Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
Don't feel that way at all. Rondo is still the best pure point guard in the league. The way this team is structured, he is playing about where he should be.
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Nash just laughed. He doesn't know why, but he did. Then he stole rondo's lunch money.
 
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