2014 FIFA World Cup |OT5| Que Jara, Jara. Whatever Will Be, Will Be.

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Has this angle been posted yet?

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SkylineRKR said:
Its a very weird thing indeed. From a damage standpoint, kicking someone in half is much worse than a bite. I rather get bitten than lay wasted for 9 months. Chiellini won't have much of a problem.
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It's because biting is abhorrent behaviour. While kicking someone is never acceptable, it could be argued that because kicking is integral to football, being on the receiving end of a kick is always a possibility.

Taking a bite out of someone is just... weird. Even when two guys are fighting, biting is just an unmanly/unsporting thing to do which is why in films and tv it's often used as a last resort (similar to eye gouging).
 
gutshot said:
Suarez not present for Uruguay's training session today, according to ITV.
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Here's hoping Gattuso made his way over to Brazil and offed this fucker.
CTLance said:
The pics that make you laugh thread is starting to accumulate Suarez pics. Seeing as how this here page is already getting close to 100MB of assets I'll refrain from embedding 'em.

Guy needs therapy, not bans. Well, a sizeable ban is kinda necessary since he's a repeat offender and his fouls are particularly unprofessional, but it's mainly to give him enough time to get a shrink to look at his anger issues. It's not like biting is the only thing he's known for, if my quick trip around google is to be believed.
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He needs both.
 
Omg can't believe there are people that are actually defending Suarez, claiming that it is not as bad as hard tackle. It's his THIRD time, he is biting another human. If a dog did this he would have been shot after the first or second time. He obviously did not learn after the Bakkal bite, neither did he after the Ivanovic bite. This guy will NEVER learn, he needs therapy and a ban.

Also, this picture is from last year. Would not be suprised if he tried to bite him there as well.

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gutshot said:
An analysis of flopping by the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-world-rankings-of-flopping-1403660175

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CON-CA-CAF! CON-CA-CAF! CON-CA.... oh wait.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] Worst Use of a Stretcher: 5 players (tie) Of the nine players carried off in these matches, five returned—all in less than 90 seconds, including American DaMarcus Beasley. [/QUOTE]

They should really force a waiting time of like 5mins.
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Zaph said:
Has this angle been posted yet?

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It's because biting is abhorrent behaviour. While kicking someone is never acceptable, it could be argued that because kicking is integral to football, being on the receiving end of a kick is always a possibility.

Taking a bite out of someone is just... weird. Even when two guys are fighting, biting is just an unmanly/unsporting thing to do which is why in films and tv it's often used as a last resort (similar to eye gouging).
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Crunch!!
 
John Dunbar said:
there should be a doctor at the sidelines, and any player who goes down and starts writhing around should be taken off the pitch and forced to go through a medical check up.
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Problem with that is it'll encourage players to continue on even if they have a concussion or something else quite serious.

We don't want to end up in a position like American Football where all the unchecked knocks are causing mental issues like depression or psychosis - leading deaths and suicides.

For all the jokes we make about flopping, some of these guys do get knocked around quite a bit on the pitch.
 
No wonder Chile was up there, they were terrible divers against Holland. Alexis did really nothing else, same shit he pulls at Barca. But Neymar seems to have this chart locked, lol.

Barca biggest divers confirmed, what a shock.
 
Well, at least the Brazil dives were rather quick, but looking at Honduras or Nigeria roughly doubling the time with fewer dives is a bit astonishing.

On the doc/mandatory 5 minute timeout thing, yeah, sounds good. I mean, caring for possible injuries is important and penalising a quick medical checkup of a leg that's the livelihood of the player is problematic, but there needs to be a bit of a penalty for dives.

Anyway, not much longer until the game, right?
 
CTLance said:
Well, at least the Brazil dives were rather quick, but looking at Honduras or Nigeria roughly doubling the time with fewer dives is a bit astonishing.

On the doc/mandatory 5 minute timeout thing, yeah, sounds good. I mean, caring for possible injuries is important and penalising a quick medical checkup of a leg that's the livelihood of the player is problematic, but there needs to be a bit of a penalty for dives.

Anyway, not much longer until the game, right?
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Or USA and France who had 12 and 10 "injuries" yet spent an astonishing amount of time on the ground.
 
CTLance said:
Well, at least the Brazil dives were rather quick, but looking at Honduras or Nigeria roughly doubling the time with fewer dives is a bit astonishing.

On the doc/mandatory 5 minute timeout thing, yeah, sounds good. I mean, caring for possible injuries is important and penalising a quick medical checkup of a leg that's the livelihood of the player is problematic, but there needs to be a bit of a penalty for dives.

Anyway, not much longer until the game, right?
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I don't think 5min would matter if you hurt or injured for real and need some kind of medical support.

Though I would love if there are some badass refs who would just give yellow cards for blatant bullshit.
 
GTP_Daverytimes said:
Or USA and France who had 12 and 10 "injuries" yet spent an astonishing amount of time on the ground.
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At least one of USA's "injuries" that took a major amount of time was Besler, who re-aggravated what seemed to be a legit hamstring injury from the previous game in the Portugal game (he received treatment for it between games). That was probably at least a full minute all by itself, which would have been counted on this list since he wasn't subbed out, and I would say it's probably not fair to class it as an "injury" like a lot of the other dives.

I'm sure there are some similar cases for other teams. There's a difference between a dive and a guy who gets hurt but plays through it, but the criteria for this list doesn't seem to make that distinction (and really, that's so subjective that I'm not sure there is any way to do so fairly).
 
SkylineRKR said:
No wonder Chile was up there, they were terrible divers against Holland. Alexis did really nothing else, same shit he pulls at Barca. But Neymar seems to have this chart locked, lol.

Barca biggest divers confirmed, what a shock.
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Dude, the ref completely ignored Alexis, that Robben cunt on the other hand....
 
...and you also have people like Robben who doesn't even try to make it look like an injury and just gets up if he doesn't get a free kick.
 
Zaph said:
Problem with that is it'll encourage players to continue on even if they have a concussion or something else quite serious.

We don't want to end up in a position like American Football where all the unchecked knocks are causing mental issues like depression or psychosis - leading deaths and suicides.

For all the jokes we make about flopping, some of these guys do get knocked around quite a bit on the pitch.
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Haven't there already been various studies that show the headers cause long term brain damage? Are you concerned about those 'mental issues'? Your comment is hypocritical.
 
MetatronM said:
At least one of USA's "injuries" that took a major amount of time was Besler, who re-aggravated what seemed to be a legit hamstring injury from the previous game in the Portugal game (he received treatment for it between games). That was probably at least a full minute all by itself, which would have been counted on this list since he wasn't subbed out, and I would say it's probably not fair to class it as an "injury" like a lot of the other dives.

I'm sure there are some similar cases for other teams. There's a difference between a dive and a guy who gets hurt but plays through it, but the criteria for this list doesn't seem to make that distinction (and really, that's so subjective that I'm not sure there is any way to do so fairly).
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And Dempsey, who literally broke his nose. Hard to count that against them when you have Nigerian players laughing as they lay one the ground.
 
sabertoothzombie said:
GAF, what are the games I should watch today?
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Argentina is qualified, and Nigeria needs at least a tie to secure its place in Ro16.
Iran will try to beat Boznia for the most possible goals, so that MAY be interesting.
not really sure which one of those two you should watch.

later today:
Ecuador - France it's promising. Ecuador NEED a win and may be the first real test to France (with all due respect to Honduras and Switzerland)
Honduras is virtually out of the World Cup, I'm not pretty sure how they will face the game, maybe pulga can give us more insight.

I would watch the Argentina game and the France game, just for Messi and Benzema.
 
PdotMichael said:
Though I would love if there are some badass refs who would just give yellow cards for blatant bullshit.
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There would be far more of those if they had a fourth ref (on the sidelines watching footage) that could stop them if they fucked up or provide guidance if there was a questionable event. They have to judge and react with split second accuracy even if they only saw something out of the corner of their eye, and the stakes are incredibly high.

I mean, I'm always waiting for the close-up slow-mo shot whenever something happens and even then I often need another repeat, I cannot imagine the stress for those poor fuckers that only get to watch it from afar, without tool assist. Honestly, being a ref on the field sounds shitty.
 
Suarez is awesome, vampiric and wolfman. He's a character, a person who's so driven to win he does stupid things. What I like about Suarez is that he's not doing Studs up career ending tackles....his drive is funneled into bizzare biting as if his strain, angst, and pressure get released in the one area of his body that's propelling him forward (because one must breathe).

Hell, if I had that mouth full of teeth I'd probably want to bite people too.

He should be banned and not play in this tournament. I still love the dude primarily for what his actions represent, and how harmless most of his actions are.


CTLance said:
There would be far more of those if they had a fourth ref (on the sidelines watching footage) that could stop them if they fucked up or provide guidance if there was a questionable event. They have to judge and react with split second accuracy even if they only saw something out of the corner of their eye, and the stakes are incredibly high.

I mean, I'm always waiting for the close-up slow-mo shot whenever something happens and even then I often need another repeat, I cannot imagine the stress for those poor fuckers that only get to watch it from afar, without tool assist. Honestly, being a ref on the field sounds shitty.
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It's horrible enough with 22 players on the field and with parents/friends sitting on the sidelines. I can't imagine doing it in front of college/high school playoffs, let alone Professional League games and International tournaments. It's a no love job. I feel bad for Howard Webb, who had to deal with last WC's horrific final. His perspective on De Jong's tackle must have hid most of the viciousness of it--though what's surprising to me is that neither of the assistants could get a good look and tell him how bad it was.
 
Wilbur said:
If Song elbows someone in the back three times, he might get more media coverage.

If Song repeatedly denies wrongdoing and blames others for his problems, he might get more media attention.

If Song was a good enough player so that it was unbelievable that someone so talented was acting so foolishly, he might get more media attention.
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Actually there have been players sent off for multiple times for violent conduct so that argument doesn't really hold water.

Just to be clear I think a long ban is warranted and the history of his transgressions should be considered. But if a player commits a violent act it should be dealt with seriously on all counts.

Ask yourself why the ban for spitting more than an elbow? There's a level of disgust associated with certain acts - It's just part of our culture.

We accept some levels of violence over others and the severity of the act has nothing to do with it.
 
That chart is so trash. Their methodology is flawed. Some teams have played in way more heat than others, which leads to cramping, fatigue, and a much higher tendency to take your time getting up after an impact.

Also, Raul Meireles for Portual laid on the ground for longer than they're even claiming for Portugal's total when he had a beard injury from a Beckerman "elbow" to the beard. Are they just not counting that?
 
Jeff-DSA said:
That chart is so trash. Their methodology is flawed. Some teams have played in way more heat than others, which leads to cramping, fatigue, and a much higher tendency to take your time getting up after an impact.

Also, Raul Meireles for Portual laid on the ground for longer than they're even claiming for Portugal's total when he had a beard injury from a Beckerman "elbow" to the beard. Are they just not counting that?
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Did he left the field, even just for a short time? If yes then it doesn't count.
 
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