Ninja Scooter
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Pass. Peddle your wares somewhere else, Vlade.
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2015 NBA Draft |OT| The Resurrection of the Lakers
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Pass. Peddle your wares somewhere else, Vlade.
Well, it would be win-win kinda. Lakers get current dominant big man, but would lose Randle (likely a future Z-bo if he wants it). The only problem is the Lakers would still need an elite point guard. I'd say Sacramento would get the better deal. Two good young bigs.
MetalFearSolid
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Vlade wants revenge he wants everything from the Lakers.
LyleLanley
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That's the kind of trades they should be going for right now though since they have no real incentive to trade him right away.
Ninja Scooter
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Traded Vlade for Kobe, not complete the circle 20 years later and trade Kobe TO Vlade.
darkside31337
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If Karl can't get along with Cousins then just fire him now.
Cousins has 3 years left on his deal at a reasonable price. He's one of the best in the league and they should be building around him not catering to the whims of a 64 year old head coach. I think Karl is great but this is ridiculous. They could keep Cousins and give it a go again this year and if it doesnt work out then trade him next year and still get basically the same amount of value back.
LyleLanley
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I know I'm going to wake up tomorrow and find out that the Lakers got Boogie for Clarkson straight up.
Ninja Scooter
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You misspelled Swaggy P
LyleLanley
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The Kings would probably have to give up their pick as well in that case.
Ainge will swoop in and offer Gerald Wallace and Phil Pressey. It's a wrap.
LyleLanley
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It's one or the other, not both.
Jmanunknown
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The Kings were actually getting better last year until Cousins got meningitis the Kings owner decided to actually fire a coach Cousins liked and than by time he got back healthy the season was a lost cause.
MetalFearSolid
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Can't believe Vivek won't trade DmC to the Nuggets because of his pride. He doesn't want him to join Mike Malone and Pete D'Alessandro in Denver.
Lawson, Faried, Gallo, and the pick. Take back DmC and get rid of any contracts you want.
Lawson, Faried, Gallo, and the pick. Take back DmC and get rid of any contracts you want.
Dion Blaster
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I'm so excited for tomorrow. Okafor, Russell, Cousins, is the draft always this fun?
LyleLanley
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"Sense I get on Lakers pursuit of Boogie is same it's been last two weeks..they continue to pursue hard but it'll take a ton to get him" - @RamonaShelburne
Ninja Scooter
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Woj's own article mentions how the Kings want Randle and Clarkson, but the Lakers flat out don't want to give up Randle and are even hesitant on Clarkson. Doesn't really jive with a deal being close.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Then why the fuck won't they give away Swaggy P? Randle and Clarkson stays or I'm going to be pissed. The Lakers seriously can't fuck this up.
Ninja Scooter
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Swaggy P has no value. Shitty 2 guards are a dime a dozen in this league.
MetalFearSolid
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Come on Divac.
JV. Ross, 2016 Knicks pick. Do it Masai. Bring Boogie North.
JV. Ross, 2016 Knicks pick. Do it Masai. Bring Boogie North.
LyleLanley
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Clarkson's decent but the league is full of decent point guards, I wouldn't let him and Randle get in the way of Boogie. I assume you're joking about Swaggy P.
lol you think any team wants Trashy P? C'mon son.
lmao lakers fans are nuts
If the Kings are smart(which they are not) they let Karl fleece the Lakers like they did the Knicks. Overpay extensively for a guy that is statistically very good but has personality and fit issues and was probably going to leave you in a few years and with nothing of value in your pocket.
MetalFearSolid
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Just last year people were saying 4 years 21 million was great value for Swaggy P. Amazing how badly his stock has dropped. Entertaining dude though.
Dion Blaster
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this is the delusion I mentioned earlier
Aaron Bruski ‏@aaronbruski
Im told the theoretic deal (2, Randle, Clarkson, etc) presented by Yahoo! for a DeMarcus Cousins trade isnt of interest to the Kings.
Sam Amick ✔@sam_amick
Re: Yahoo report on Cousins/Lakers, Kings' management message unchanged: not interested in moving him, focus of Thursday is on draft. But there's always a threshold here. If that Kings' ransom gets big enough, you never know. I'm still skeptical they'd do this in division.
Im told the theoretic deal (2, Randle, Clarkson, etc) presented by Yahoo! for a DeMarcus Cousins trade isnt of interest to the Kings.
Sam Amick ✔@sam_amick
Re: Yahoo report on Cousins/Lakers, Kings' management message unchanged: not interested in moving him, focus of Thursday is on draft. But there's always a threshold here. If that Kings' ransom gets big enough, you never know. I'm still skeptical they'd do this in division.
Ninja Scooter
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Kobe, Love and Cousins probably still doesn't make the playoffs in the West. This year is going to be another rebuild for LA no matter what happens.
I think Clarkson should be the sticking point from the Lakers' perspective, not Randle. I don't think Randle will develop the requisite jump shot to make him compatible with Cousins' game, and he'd probably be rendered superfluous in the case of a Love free agent signing anyway. Clarkson, on the other hand, is about as good a point guard as you'll find on the contract that he's on and has remarkable defensive upside and uncommon length at his position. I'm alright with sending over the #2 and Randle for Cousins and vestigial Kings contracts.
Then there's no way a "framework" was exchanged because there is nothing else of value on the Lakers roster.
MetalFearSolid
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Fuck off Kings. This is getting as bad as Dwightmare.
Ninja Scooter
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I'm kinda glad. Cousins is really good, but he's not a guy you are going to win with with a gutted roster. Lets just keep our assets and try and use the one thing we do have lots of (money, as opposed to good players) to try and improve the roster over the next couple of offseasons. This rebuild is going to be a marathon, not a sprint.
LOL, exec of the year material right there...
Probably a bunch of grandstanding to see what they can get, either tomorrow or before the season begins. King bringing Cousins on the court after all of this seems like a bad idea, IMO. Dude is huge on loyalty, and volatile even before all of this started.
Adi Joseph ‏@AdiJoseph 8m8 minutes ago
Heres what the Jazz got for 26-year-old Deron Williams:
Derrick Favors
Devin Harris
two first-round picks (one that became No. 3 overall)
Adi Joseph ‏@AdiJoseph 14m14 minutes ago
What Denver got for 26-year-old Carmelo (in a complex deal):
Gallinari
Koufos
Mozgov
WChandler
Felton
1 first-rounder
2 second rounders
Sam Vecenie ‏@Sam_Vecenie 1m1 minute ago
Lakers Fans:
DeMarcus Cousins puts up stats on a bad team, hes worthless.
BUT JORDAN CLARKSON! HES SO GOOD!
Heres what the Jazz got for 26-year-old Deron Williams:
Derrick Favors
Devin Harris
two first-round picks (one that became No. 3 overall)
Adi Joseph ‏@AdiJoseph 14m14 minutes ago
What Denver got for 26-year-old Carmelo (in a complex deal):
Gallinari
Koufos
Mozgov
WChandler
Felton
1 first-rounder
2 second rounders
Sam Vecenie ‏@Sam_Vecenie 1m1 minute ago
Lakers Fans:
DeMarcus Cousins puts up stats on a bad team, hes worthless.
BUT JORDAN CLARKSON! HES SO GOOD!
LyleLanley
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People really think Clarkson is so good that they'd let him hold up a trade for Boogie?
Ainge still living off that 2007 rep when his buddy Mchale did him a favor
Ninja Scooter
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the 2, Randle and Clarkson is literally EVERYTHING we have so if that doesn't move the Kings there's nothing much else to discuss.
Please breh, take him. Landry's dusty ass too.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Yeah its really this simple. Lakers cannot offer a deal better than this unless they can get a 3rd team involved somehow.
Yup. I mean, unless the Kings want future firsts thrown in, although can LA even do that? They likely don't own next year's pick, I'm not sure LA is willing to throw in a 2017 first rounder (although by that point I think they'd have signed enough star FAs to make the '17 first rounder fall late in the draft).
LyleLanley
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"ESPN's LaMarcus Aldridge latest: Batum trade only latest signal of Aldridge's likely departure and sources say Lakers are moving up his list" -@ESPNSteinLine
If this is true the Lakers probably should deal their entire roster minus Kobe for Boogie.
If this is true the Lakers probably should deal their entire roster minus Kobe for Boogie.
Luckily Kobe took one for the team and is only due 25 million this year.
Bron
Wade
Kobe
Lamarcus
Boogie
JR Smith to make Kobe's chucking look good
Mike Miller gets a seat wherever Bron goes since he carries for him
Random scrubs
New Lakers rebooted.
Ninja Scooter
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those two examples, as good as Cousins is, sort of make the case for not trading him. There are only 2 or 3 players in this league who you can surround with shit and still have a good team (LeBron and AD?). From them there is a HUGE drop off to the next batch of superstars. Granted the Lakers don't have a lot of assets, but "gutting your roster" is sort of a relative term.
Can LA even afford LMA?
edit: Stein - ESPN sources say Lakers appear to be passing Dallas on list of likely destinations for Aldridge should he leave POR. San Antonio still No. 1
Ninja Scooter
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We can squeeze in one max deal so long as we don't take back any salary in any future trades I believe. Then likely another max deal next offseason when Kobe comes off the books.
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