xrnzaaas
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Dayum she's cute I would've given her batteries instead of explaining it doesn't need any.
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2017-18 TV Season Cancellations: Guess which woman's late night show got cancelled
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Dayum she's cute I would've given her batteries instead of explaining it doesn't need any.
KonradLaw
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I thought it was fairly popular, was it just too expensive or (going by wikipedia) have the ratings cratered this season?
I like Gaiman, and I like Fuller, also since ivy has described it as a tone poem which is what the best part of Hannibal basically was (yes my favourite bit of Hannibal is season 3 part 1, come at me).
Weiner da gawd. (but seriously I'm relieved it's apparently going well)
$160 million for two seasons is pricey but not insane, it's not, you know Vinyl, fucking Vinyl, which was $100 million for a single season.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up going massively over budget like The Get Down did. Film directors who don't take the time/effort to understand how TV works have a tendency to do that (and make mediocre shows).
American Hustle and Silver Linings were both fairly decent sized hits.
Also Transparent is ostensibly a comedy.
Non-genre fare can still do well.
Both made about $250 million worldwide. In similar box office comparison, I think they're looking for the equivalent of a $1 billion+ film, which has a tendency to be genre fare.
Basically, David O. Russell is a double, maybe a triple at best and Amazon is looking for a Grand Slam.
Last time I went high, now I'm going low.
Flash - 0.6
Legends - 0.4
Even then it's a big drop from last season's average. Nobody expected it to match the Superman/network shift premiere of last year, but this wasn't hitting the numbers of a random post-break episode.
That said, show it's still in safe range and third season cancellations are rare.
Flash - 0.6
Legends - 0.4
Even then it's a big drop from last season's average. Nobody expected it to match the Superman/network shift premiere of last year, but this wasn't hitting the numbers of a random post-break episode.
That said, show it's still in safe range and third season cancellations are rare.
I just read the Deadline take on the TWC/Amazon thing:
Just because Netflix is doing Mindhunter, doesn't mean they won't do season 2 of Iron Fist.
Sigh, time to break this evergreen out again (btw, that link is about sexual harassment conducted by Price if you're too lazy to click) :
Sure, but they still don't have a "prestige" drama in the vein of House of Cards or the like which is a niche that this could fill.
Just because Netflix is doing Mindhunter, doesn't mean they won't do season 2 of Iron Fist.
Yeah, a prestige drama would be nice. I just think spending $160 million is overspending just a tad bit to get one, and the ROI is going to end up being a disaster.
$160 million for two seasons. Which again, is pricey but not insane.
I think Mindhunter is about the same budget wise. edit: Damn, I'm good at this
Well I say that but it is actually insane because apparently the deal included Weinstein saying that he could control Russel, which is bullshit and also you know he's finally fucking out of the business. It's so going to be The Get Down 2.0.
KonradLaw
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The fact that this year it has to compete against two other comicbook shows instead of one probably isn't helping.
KonradLaw
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Investing all profits back into new stuff is pretty much Amazon's credo. As you've said they are pivoting towards genre shows, but this was likely started a long time before that pivot. And most of all, it's not like they have limited budget/air space, so it's not like money spent on that is a money that won't go towards something more mainstream.
That said, I'm really surprised Amazon haven't picked up a superhero show yet (real one I mean, I love Tick, but it's comedy). This seems like the easiest way to get big buzz and lots of exposure for a streaming platform.
Oh, wow. I didn't realise that the trailer for the failed Roadside Picnic TV adaptation (same novel that inspired Stalker the film and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. the video game series) starring Matthew Goode leaked.
I can see why this one didn't make it. Unfortunately.
I can see why this one didn't make it. Unfortunately.
KonradLaw
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Damn. I definitely would watch this series.
Ghosted is the time during the night where I'll leave the TV on and go do something else. I like the actors but the story isn't funny or interesting so far. I haven't tried The Mayor yet but have two episodes on my DVR for it. Me, Myself and I is something I might keep watching. Its an interesting structure but it definitely doesn't seem very comedic so far.
Love both Ghosted and Mayor. Great year for me.
dead souls
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Ghosted is just insane to me. I've watched both episodes of it and there isn't a single joke or even amusing moment in it. Such a creative misfire.
Razgriz-Specter
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Please don't get cancelled Lethal Weapon.
dead souls
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I wouldn't worry. 0.9 is practically a hit on Fox.
It's the better show, so I'm not too surprised
dead souls
Member
Nah, Legends is the worst of the DC shows by a mile. Only my completionist tendencies keep me watching that truly abysmal show.
Starz has cancelled Survivor's Remorse.
:/
Fuck.
Hopefully the season finale works as a series finale.
EDIT:
:/
That's a bummer. I'm a bit behind on this season. I really enjoy the show. I could certainly have watched some more, but at least it would have been nice if it had gotten a chance to end properly with the writers being able to craft a proper series finale.
The CW is saved!
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Prediction!
Dynasty - 0.4
Dynasty - 0.4
Obliterator
Member
Not surprised at Supergirl underperforming. Last season was really rough. They spent way too much time dragging out various romance plots and didnt do a whole lot else.
TDLink
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I think over-saturation of DC Superhero shows on the network is a real thing. It's a minority who is watching every episode of all of them. Supergirl also stands out as being the only more female-targeting of the 4 shows as well which indicates the demographics watching are mostly men.
It's funny how the CW has transformed from that network that is all for teen girls to this comic book thing. Though Riverdale I know is a huge hit with women still.
How is there an audience for something this bad?
Claude Augario
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They somehow made Supergirl more dour than Arrow and that's not what anyone wanted, so I'm not surprised people are checking out. Maybe it'll be course corrected with the new season.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
It's been vaguely described as a 'mafia crime series', so I think it could end up being a success for them. People love mob shit.
The ratings rose every season, especially in season 3 when it aired behind Power, but then pretty much cratered this year. Not quite sure what happened. One would think that, even if L+SD viewership was down, the difference would be made up with delayed viewing, but apparently that hasn't been the case. Shame.
The main story is dull af. The side stories are the only compelling parts of the show. I think it would be better as an episodic anthology about different mythological beings coming to and living in America.
Drop all of them like I did. They all suck.
TDLink
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Agree with this. The "Coming to America" portions of the show were all pretty great. Could have easily had them each be an episode. I do like Ian McShane as Wednesday though.
Apparently, Legends of Tomorrow will be getting worse as Victor Garber (half of Firestorm) is leaving the show sometime this season.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Obliterator
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I really enjoy Legends and this SUCKS. Dude is probably the best part of the show
I'll go with 0.3
There's a reason why all of those shows feature multiple ripped dudes that like to work out and be shirtless, though there's a similar thing with the female characters.
Razgriz-Specter
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Fingers crossed his characters' daughter becomes the other half or something.
WickedLaharl
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Arrow is trash even the much-talked-about season 5 is still shit while legends of tomorrow is good fun.
Losing martin stein is gonna be a huge blow for me.
Dedication Through Light
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No CBS viewer was going to switch channels to CW.
Razgriz-Specter
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It was on CW last year, CBS was the year before.
It has declined even for CW.