-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
2017-18 TV Season Cancellations: Guess which woman's late night show got cancelled
- Thread starter Sober
- Start date
Christ, Wisdom of the Crowd is so abysmal, to go from Entourage to this for Piven... I guess he needs to pay the bills somehow.
Lol, glad I watched only Pilot.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
That series premiere for Valor. Whew.
Edit: I watched the pilot. It's a little dated. Mostly a serious drama but they do that speed up and then slow down thing with the woosh sound effect for some reason. 90s and 00s comedies did it a lot...not sure why you'd have it in a drama.
dead souls
Member
Damn, looks like it's going to be a bad year for The CW.
Now we know why Supergirl was so grumpy.
Now we know why Supergirl was so grumpy.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
She actually takes the batteries out of the controller later. It's weird. lol
dead souls
Member
Valor was obviously going to bomb. Why was it even made?
eternalcircle
Member
Ugh. I hate when network shows throw in video game related plotlines. It's always terrible.
I'm still salty/bitter about iZombie always being benched to the next year for lame middling shows like Valor and Frequency. I'm always willing to be optimistic about new shows and not judge them before I see them.
Valor on the other hand doesn't look like anything. I've watched the trailer like 3 times and I still don't know what it's about. Is it another seal team army like show?
Like I said earlier, maybe i'm just salty/bitter about iZombie, their best show by far.
Valor on the other hand doesn't look like anything. I've watched the trailer like 3 times and I still don't know what it's about. Is it another seal team army like show?
Like I said earlier, maybe i'm just salty/bitter about iZombie, their best show by far.
Yeah, so I guess they get a pass because third party controller?
Still, third party controller ugh!
Dedication Through Light
Member
I guess CBS went all in on SEAL Team and SWAT and was like taking a chance on VALOR
Razgriz-Specter
Member
I guess CBS went all in on SEAL Team and SWAT and was like taking a chance on VALOR
At least SEAL Team is a dumb fun military action series(and has a budget)
even watching the first episode I don't "get" Valor as a CW series.
Budget is also absolutely horrendous on Valor, they had to CG(terrible quality at that) a plane just parked in the background at an airbase.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
In between the two, he did the fairly good Mr. Selfridge, a period drama, which ran for 4 seasons.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I swear I've never seen a third party PS4 controller in my life. lolYeah, so I guess they get a pass because third party controller?
Still, third party controller ugh!
If they take AAA batteries, then no wonder no one uses them.
Good, the CW needs to learn to launch their seasons BEFORE every other network instead of after. When you do worse than everyone else you shouldn't let them launch their shows before yours. I want them to do something like what Fox did back in the day with The O.C., launch their lineup a month before the other networks so there's no competition to start the year and hopefully the shows finds and keeps an audience in that time.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
And this is the pilot. I guess by virtue of the premise, they don't have to do expensive fights and raid scenes too often because the leads are chopper pilots. They kinda tried glossing by that in the opening.
It's not soapy enough for The CW audience. They should be leaning more towards Army Wives than Seal Team. Especially when they ain't got money!
The thing with The CW is that they don't really care. As long as they can get deals with Netflix and international broadcasts, they'll let their low-rated shows run for 10 years if they want.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I don't think Valor would have succeeded even in a world where there weren't two other similarly premised, better executed, and higher budgeted shows airing (SEAL Team and The Brave). Also, talk about audience miscalibration -- the CW has a younger audience. Has there ever been a military show that's attracted 20-somethings? MTV Films distributed Stop-Loss, the Channing Tatum vehicle, but that's about the only thing I can think of.
Father_Brain
Banned
Inhumans > The Gifted
I'll take a trainwreck over a competently made but suffocatingly bland slice of mediocrity any day.
I'll take a trainwreck over a competently made but suffocatingly bland slice of mediocrity any day.
dead souls
Member
Great news!
.
But hey I managed to avoid subscribing to Amazon for American Gods (sorry ivy, I'll buy it on blu-ray I promise) so maybe I'll manage this as well.
TDLink
Member
I've heard Apple is going to announce a bunch of stuff this month and next month. They're going hard into high concept genre stuff especially. This is only the beginning.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Normally budget/CG on CW I completely forgive so my complaint might seem hypocritical but honestly its because those other shows are giving me stuff that you don't see on tv(besides maybe cartoons).
Im actually interested in the show and got some enjoyment from the premiere,
Just the wrong network at the wrong time.
Jason Frost
Member
It was already renewed in France and Canada, now United States is just following them.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Starz has cancelled Survivor's Remorse.
:/
Fuck.
Hopefully the season finale works as a series finale.
EDIT:
:/
:/
Fuck.
Hopefully the season finale works as a series finale.
EDIT:
:/
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Valor - 0.3
Winners!
Fails!
Winners!
Fails!
Starz has cancelled Survivor's Remorse.
:/
Fuck.
Hopefully the season finale works as a series finale.
EDIT:
:/
FUCK STARZ
That series premiere for Valor. Whew.
Edit: I watched the pilot. It's a little dated. Mostly a serious drama but they do that speed up and then slow down thing with the woosh sound effect for some reason. 90s and 00s comedies did it a lot...not sure why you'd have it in a drama.
That's pretty terrible from Supergirl. Way down from last season. Doesn't bode well for any of the other shows.
Flash is probably a 0.7 or 0.8 if it also drops like that.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Great news, I love this show.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Supergirl premiered with Superman last season and then turned to complete crap(even decided to dump on their really well liked Superman in the final)
It doesn't surprise me at all, probably the highest it will be besides the crossover.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I assume the female protagonist is the big difference. It makes me wonder why someone hasn't just licensed Our Girl yet.
dead souls
Member
Wanted to love it, but I merely (kind of) liked it.
Jason Frost
Member
Note to myself:
SEAL Team is the show on CBS with David Boreanaz
The Brave is the show on NBC with Anne Heche
Valor is the show on The CW with Christina Ochoa (the girl from Blood Drive)
SEAL Team is the show on CBS with David Boreanaz
The Brave is the show on NBC with Anne Heche
Valor is the show on The CW with Christina Ochoa (the girl from Blood Drive)
Honestly, I'm just glad it got as many seasons as it did.
MHWilliams
Member
Every odd internet network will have a Stephen King show.
Supergirl premiere numbers.
TDLink
Member
He's got a great Lit. Agent. That's for sure.
torre_avenue
Banned
In this article about Amazon and TWC, two nuggets of info standout:
Holy shit. $160 million for a David O Russel. series is already overkill, but then paying DeNiro 3/4 of a million per episode??? And to top it off, only a few scripts have been turned in? That money would be better spent in an incinerator at this rate.
TheNatureBoy
Member
Disappointed to hear Survivor's Remorse is canceled, especially since it seems like everything won't be wrapped up in the season finale this Sunday. Also considering it seemed to be getting its best ratings last season. Starz should have had it return for a new season the same time as Power. I know it aired some episodes alongside it, but it could have used the rub more.
It's been a slept on show since it first started airing though. Glad it introduced me to Erica Ash.
It's been a slept on show since it first started airing though. Glad it introduced me to Erica Ash.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Thank God.
$160 million for two seasons isn't too too bad when you consider that it's 16 episodes written and directed by David O Russell and starring two Oscar winners (one admittedly past his prime Robert De Niro and Julianne Moore). No idea how they've managed to spend $40 million when they're still in the script stage though...
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Except that a David O. Russell series is almost guaranteed to be a niche hit at best. I honestly don't see it exploding into the mainstream, at all. They may get the critical cred, but I feel like they're desperate for a populist hit which tend to not be conventional adult dramas. And indeed they already have that prestige drama in Transparent.That money would be much better off going to a genre show, IMO (which is a direction they already seem to be pivoting towards).