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"24" - 10PM - 11PM (the TWIST!!!11)

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DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Phoenix said:
Gotta be pretty stupid to try to use sheetrock to defend yourself from bullets.

Seriously... anytime I can throw an N64 cartridge through a sheetrock wall.....
 

Joates

Banned
Man, after what happened when Jack nearly got killed before from the guy who wasnt dead I was yellin at the TV for him to shoot the imposter chick in the forehead. Just for good measure. :lol
 

Pimpwerx

Member
Oh please, this is getting a bit ridiculous again. WTF kind of encryption gets bypassed in 30 seconds via tech support? Anyway, I'm hoping they are too late. I want some fucking drama to end this season. It's kinda fading lately. PEACE.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Phoenix said:
Gotta be pretty stupid to try to use sheetrock to defend yourself from bullets.

Yeah, that was pretty dumb of her. I don't know what made her think a thin column would protect from Jack's ace shooting. :lol
 

Link

The Autumn Wind
JoatesDogg187 said:
Man, after what happened when Jack nearly got killed before from the guy who wasnt dead I was yellin at the TV for him to shoot the imposter chick in the forehead. Just for good measure. :lol
He checked her pulse. I'm fairly certain he knows how to do that properly.
 

Fifty

Member
Heh, what an obvious TWIST. I mean, we all knew it was coming! Last week was a setup episode, this week had action, but next week is the one when something surprising might actually happen. Not a bad episode, it had to happen sometime.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Umm... where was the twist? I figured that out as soon as I saw a pilot was involved.... what... 2 weeks ago?

Oh... and was already pointed out Wobbly Goblin's don't carry air to air ordinance as part of the regular armament Dale Brown and Tom Clancy would NOT be happy!
 

Link

The Autumn Wind
I was expecting the use of misdirection and that the target would actually be something else. You're disappointing me with your lack of "didn't see it coming," 24!
 

MIMIC

Banned
Wow...they fucking hit Air Force One.

Season one's revenge. :)

But the obvious question: where's the twist?
 

Phoenix

Member
Aw come the fuck on. Clearly no military advisors attached to this show. Air force one has more than sufficient ability to defend itself from aSINGLE sidewinder, sparrow, or amram missile. Considering that it has 4 escorts sitting next to it that can jam the missile and fire chaff and flare decoys, there is little chance of a good strike on the plane.

Especially considering the missile is being fired by a plane that isn't designed to be an air-to -air fighter. The F-117 is a fighter in name only. It is designed to hit ground targets!
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Bauer Action Hour said:
Holy shit... they went through w/ it.

It was obvious that it would happen, but I'm still shocked...

Yeah. For me the twist wasn't the President being the target, most of us figured that out weeks ago. I'm just surprised that attack went according to plan, Jack wasn't able to stop it. :(
 

MIMIC

Banned
Next week:

Since the plane went down, the codes to all of the US's nukes have been made available, since they were also on the plane. Marwan is after them...
 
Most disappointing twist since...

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Still, another good episode.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Phoenix said:
Aw come the fuck on. Clearly no military advisors attached to this show. Air force one has more than sufficient ability to defend itself from aSINGLE sidewinder, sparrow, or amram missile. Considering that it has 4 escorts sitting next to it that can jam the missile and fire chaff and flare decoys, there is little chance of a good strike on the plane.

Five escorts... and I'll play devil's advocate and say within in a short mileage situation 1-2 miles, at night I don't think fighters or air force one would be able to react quick enough.

For years there has been this running debate(outside of military circles) about exactly what Air Force One is capable in terms of defending itself.... this though definitely of REALLY course stretches things...(why with 5 fighters would 1 not drop back?)... but I'll go along to see what happens.

Then again we didn't think a strike like 9/11 was possible in this day and age either(I know completely different thing... but I think you know where I'm trying to say).
 

Fifty

Member
Marwan is hilarious....he always has a guy waiting in a van to pick him up. He must have 30 of them just hiding around different parts of LA. Here's a tip for CTU: next time you've cornered him in a building, put a giant net around it, perhaps even watch fire exits and other emergency exits, because the odds are that he's going to come sneaking out of them.
 

MIMIC

Banned
Maybe that was the twist: that
Marwan is actually after the nuke codes, and killing the President (who we assume is dead) was just killing two birds with one stone
.
 

Phoenix

Member
DarienA said:
Five escorts... and I'll play devil's advocate and say within in a short mileage situation 1-2 miles, at night I don't think fighters or air force one would be able to react quick enough.

Nah, once the doors open - the F-117 is just as visible as most other aircraft and all of them would have had an opportunity to jam, attract, engage the missile. The missile doesn't have any stealth characteristics and once the F-117 opens the bays, it doesn't either.
 

Malleymal

You now belong to FMT.
honestly i think that if the plane didnt blow up then the episode would have been a total waste... also I knew the plane was going down when they tried to build up some sort emotional tie with the pres and his son..
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Phoenix said:
Nah, once the doors open - the F-117 is just as visible as most other aircraft and all of them would have had an opportunity to jam, attract, engage the missile. The missile doesn't have any stealth characteristics and once the F-117 opens the bays, it doesn't either.

Your info must be different than mine... I've read that one the doors are open its' radar signature does go up, but depending on the other conditions it still might be hard to locate. Anyway since the claimed an indirect hit and from the angle the radar showed perhaps one of the fighters was able to clip it.... my info also says newer sidewinders do Mach 2.5+ One of the best short range dogfighters out there... next to a... russian missle whose name slips my mind right now...
 

Mooreberg

is sharpening a shovel and digging a ditch
I had a feeling this was going to happen since Keeler wasn't on the show nearly as much as Palmer was. All that speech revision for nothing.
 
If they're going to say an F-117a can fire A2A missiles, then why didn't they just go all the way and have this guy steal an F-22 or JSF prototype?
 

DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Phoenix said:
Aw come the fuck on. Clearly no military advisors attached to this show. Air force one has more than sufficient ability to defend itself from aSINGLE sidewinder, sparrow, or amram missile. Considering that it has 4 escorts sitting next to it that can jam the missile and fire chaff and flare decoys, there is little chance of a good strike on the plane.

Especially considering the missile is being fired by a plane that isn't designed to be an air-to -air fighter. The F-117 is a fighter in name only. It is designed to hit ground targets!

Well, at least they didn't give Air Force One an escape capsule like another depiction of it did. :D
 

LakeEarth

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We've been been saying this was gonna be the big twist before they told us there was going to be a big twist. We've been saying this was gonna happen for months now.
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Ah the AA-11 Archer.... I'm slipping, getting tired... 24 is fantasy... I'll except this stretch and move on.. JAck Bauer failed!!! Time to go back to being a drug addict! ;)

DarthWoo said:
Well, at least they didn't give Air Force One an escape capsule like another depiction of it did. :D

Don't you be hatin on Escape from NY dammit!
 

DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
I was thinking of another movie actually.

Anyway, was it my imagination or did they keep switching between five and four escort fighters?
 

Phoenix

Member
DarienA said:
Your info must be different than mine... I've read that one the doors are open its' radar signature does go up, but depending on the other conditions it still might be hard to locate. Anyway since the claimed an indirect hit and from the angle the radar showed perhaps one of the fighters was able to clip it.... my info also says newer sidewinders do Mach 2.5+ One of the best short range dogfighters out there... next to a... russian missle whose name slips my mind right now...

Just like the radar signature of AF1 and its escorts is hard to spot, so is the active seeker head of a missile. Your electronics light up like a christmas tree. Generally this is when the automated chaff/flare/special jammers kick in so you can evade.

But I guess I'll just roll with it, though the lack of flashbangs on an assault while jack runs through there with a windbreaker shows clearly that they aren't really trying to be all that authentic :) Its like when they are sitting there with the laptops saying "I can't stop it from deleting" I'm just sitting there saying - "unplug and remove the battery - it'll stop real quick".
 

Phoenix

Member
DarienA said:
Ah the AA-11 Archer.... I'm slipping, getting tired... 24 is fantasy... I'll except this stretch and move on.. JAck Bauer failed!!! Time to go back to being a drug addict! ;)



Don't you be hatin on Escape from NY dammit!


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Believe it was in here as well...
 

jenov4

Member
AWW YEAH Another Great episode! I didn't think they'd actually go ahead and blow up Air Force One. WOWSERS.

And damn Michelle Dessler
already hooking up with another man. Poor Tony. ;(
 

DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Jack must be losing it in a way though when it comes to negotiations;
he should have threatened to kill Anderson's sister or give her the Cordilla Virus if he didn't land.
 

MIMIC

Banned
Phoenix said:
Its like when they are sitting there with the laptops saying "I can't stop it from deleting" I'm just sitting there saying - "unplug and remove the battery - it'll stop real quick".

Then you'd have died in the blast. :p
 

Phoenix

Member
DarthWoo said:
Jack must be losing it in a way though when it comes to negotiations;
he should have threatened to kill Anderson's sister or give her the Cordilla Virus if he didn't land.

That's actually what I was expecting :)
 
Very tense episode, especially since I kinda figured what was going to happen. About as tense as the episode when the bomb blew up in S2(but not as emotional)

darkiguana
 
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