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"24" - 10PM - 11PM (the TWIST!!!11)

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Archaix

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DarthWoo said:
I was thinking of another movie actually.

Anyway, was it my imagination or did they keep switching between five and four escort fighters?
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I certainly heard four said twice, and there were absolutely five on the radar screen at the end.
 
Phoenix

Phoenix

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DarkAngelYuna said:
Who says the stealth fighter is done? Vice president or something else next for bombing? ^_^
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Well the stealth only has two pylons and is generally standard equipped for routine flight with the same thing in each so unless the vice pres gets in Air Force 2 and the escort fighters prove to be as incompetent as the CTU strike teams and can't take the stealth down - its done :D

They seem to be playing on the popular misconception that the stealth is invisible, can't be tracked, and can destroy things with impunity with no warning. It doesn't have a cloaking device for goodness sakes.
 
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BigJonsson

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I think they need to play Blackmail the Universe by Megadeth next episode

"This is breaking news
It appears that Air Force One was shot down
Somewhere over the Middle East this morning
By a sleeper cell of rogue terrorists, firing a Stinger Missile
The Pilot and all passengers are unaccounted for
The President’s whereabouts are presently unknown and he is presumed missing
The Vice President, Secretary of State, and principles of the military are assembling
Our nation stands at DEFCON 3 "
 
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Wario64

works for Gamestop (lol)
Why didn't the pres just escape via a pod? Or was that just something they made up in the film 'Air Force One'? :p

And I stil say the nuke ep is the best 24 episode. This episode was too hyped up imo, and I didn't really care about the pres since he hardly had much air time. Hell, this is probably the only ep where he was on camera for more than a couple minutes (in season 4)
 
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DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Out of curiosity,
assuming the nuclear "football" was somehow lost, aren't there procedures in place to lock down the nuclear arsenal? Aren't the codes only authorization codes that tell a human on the receiving end that they've been genuinely ordered to fire their missiles? It's not like these codes would let Marwan automatically fire off missiles, right?
 
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VPhys

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This episode would have been lost forever if they did not take down Air Force 1. There was WAY too much hype for that minimal payoff. There have been much better episodes this season that would have better deserved the advertising dollars.

Wasn't Palmer supposed to come back
 
ManaByte

ManaByte

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Wario64 said:
Why didn't the pres just escape via a pod? Or was that just something they made up in the film 'Air Force One'? :p
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It was made up for the movie. Rumor has it, Clinton said he wished he had one of those when they had the White House screening of the movie.

VPhys said:
This episode would have been lost forever if they did not take down Air Force 1. There was WAY too much hype for that minimal payoff. There have been much better episodes this season that would have better deserved the advertising dollars.

Wasn't Palmer supposed to come back
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The final six episodes...
 
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VPhys

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Wario64 said:
Why didn't the pres just escape via a pod? Or was that just something they made up in the film 'Air Force One'? :p
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A pod could have made him even more vunerable, as then the F-17s (?) would not have been able to protect a plundering sphere.

Then again, if there was a pod, it could have been an excelent decoy.
 
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Prince of Space

Banned
Ugh, what a disappointing episode. This whole season has been lacking; everything's just too damn predictable.

And WTF was up with Jack pussy-footing around Anderson? That's not the Jack "When your daughter's infected, I'm gonna make you watch her die" Bauer I know...
 
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Teddman

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Overhyped twist. I have to agree, pretty disappointing episode considering... I would have thought it was just fine it wasn't so trumped up in the ads.
 
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gblues

Banned
THERE... ARE.. *FOUR*.. ESCORTS!

Erm.. sorry.

I'll chime in my disappointment at the "twist." Although from the look on the VP's face...
I wonder if the VP might be involved?

The Edgar thing from last week's preview was
a red herring. Chloe brought up Edgar's mom and he accidently burned a disc with the data in the wrong format. The "what are you doing, Edgar" was because Chloe caught the error and took the flack for it to save Edgar's ass.

Nathan
 
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CajoleJuice

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I never watched the ads or previews, so I wasn't hyped for this episode in particular. I saw Air Force One going down the whole episode. I must say, 24 is being pretty predictable so far this season. I guess there's only so many unpredictable twists writers can come up with.

This episode isn't even close to the Nuke episode.

And I second the Blackmail the Universe song suggestion for next episode. That would be cool.
 
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suaveric

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DarthWoo said:
Out of curiosity,
assuming the nuclear "football" was somehow lost, aren't there procedures in place to lock down the nuclear arsenal? Aren't the codes only authorization codes that tell a human on the receiving end that they've been genuinely ordered to fire their missiles? It's not like these codes would let Marwan automatically fire off missiles, right?
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Yes,
there would be a new football up and running extremely fast. Those codes would be worthless almost as soon as the plane hit the ground.
 
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metsallica

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Or... maybe us "nitpickers" expect more out of 24. Maybe we expect a twist that wasn't telegraphed for the past 10 episodes (or so) and thus isn't a twist at all, but convention.

Granted, I was a victim of "The Fox Overhype," but still, I hold 24 to a higher standard than most other TV shows. I don't think I can anymore.

That being said, I'll still be there next week, and I still hold out hope that this season won't be a total bust.
 
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MIMIC

Banned
metsallica said:
Or... maybe us "nitpickers" expect more out of 24. Maybe we expect a twist that wasn't telegraphed for the past 10 episodes (or so) and thus isn't a twist at all, but convention.

Granted, I was a victim of "The Fox Overhype," but still, I hold 24 to a higher standard than most other TV shows. I don't think I can anymore.
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You said this was the "worst episode in 24 history." That's like calling Oprah Winfrey the "poorest billionaire."
 
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boredJonathan

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I'm just suprised that this episode in particular has been nit picked for its inaccuracies. Do you really think that there was ever a device that could do anything remotely similar to the Override device from earlier this season? I mean, the partical reasoning behind even having such a device exsist is strange, yet most just brushed it off as a good exscuse to show us some good story lines and provide some good TV.

Which is what I am doing with this. They shot down Air Force One, and that was a pretty gutsy move if you ask me. Of course they couldn't back down from it, having lead up to that point so heavily... but there will be alot of fall out from this and I am very curious to see how it all plays out.

At least 24 tries to keep things remotely realistic, and if I didn't post here I would not have even known any of this inaccuracies when it comes to the Stealth fighter, so I assume that by and large the majority of fans quite enjoyed this episode much like I did.

Hell, the whole action scene up front with Jack knifing the dude and then using his body to hold him up while he checked for anyone else was just so hard core that I demand having this move in the next MGS. How can you people think this episode brings down the entire season to the level of cougars... its just beyond me.
 
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metsallica

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MIMIC said:
You said this was the "worst episode in 24 history." That's like calling Oprah Winfrey the "poorest billionaire."
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You're right, and that's the problem with 24. When the rare situation of a bad episode comes along, it's like a sucker-punch. Completely unexpected. When I (and nearly everyone else in this thread) realized what the show was working towards over a month ago, we only talked about it because we were sure that it couldn't be that straightforward. We just knew we couldn't be right; previous swerves had just been so good, how could the show be so obvious?

I know I'm overreacting; I've been spoiled by such a fantastic show. I really hope something happens in the next episode that redeems this "twist," but somehow I doubt it. I did go similarly insane over Gael's batcave on this very forum, though, and we know how that turned out. So... who knows.

Maybe I'll just blame Fox. That always makes me feel better.
 
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cubanb

Banned
Vibri said:
What was the twist? Did I blink and miss it?

Pretty cool episode otherwise.
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THEY DECIDED TO FIRE ON AIR FORCE ONE. Can you believe it? I really thought they were just gonna derail some more trains and make the politicians scared to appear in public!
yea im mad they led us to the obvious acting like there would be a twist.
HOWEVER, if i had not seen the previews I would say this episode was very good
 
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Black Deatha

Member
Ok, all the nitpickers need to shut up, 24 is still a show, but unlike most it does a damn good job of keeping up a lot of realism. Lets put it this way, the last episode stated that they had done some work on the F-117-A, maybe they added air to air missles, and were gonna run a test, just maybe it was an experiment. Come on, dont let such a small thing drive you so nuts, my friend who I showed season's 1 through 3 to constantly nit picked saying that there was no such thing as image enhancing software, and that cell phones can be traced in a matter of seconds and not minutes, but damn, it's not a big deal.

In any case, remember guys, there was more to the eppisode than
Air Force One being attacked, and the most likely death of the president
, Seems most people are ignoring it, Jack stabbing that guy and holding him up with his back was badass, and the way he takes off and lets the guy drop was awsome, who had the idea first I wonder? Ubisoft or 24, knives are agents freinds.

And man, sucks for Tony, this is one more hurdel for him, poor guy, come on Tony, keep on fighting, or at least start a bit

~Black Deatha
 
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Deku Tree

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I'm dissapointed that there was no twist. Everything about this show is great, except the writing. I mean so much of this stuff is totally ridiculious. That plane should have never gotten off the ground. Does anyone think it was realistic to say that the head mechanic at the air force base didn't realize that his high tech stealth mechanic wasn't anybody he had ever seen before?
 
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aaaaa0

Member
I'm confused.

If they had the frequency of the stealth pilot's radio, and could tell if he was listening or not (which means they were getting a carrier signal back from him), why couldn't they track his plane?

Oh yeah, CTU's tactical teams are USELESS. Holy crap are they useless.
 
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cubanb

Banned
aaaaa0 said:
I'm confused.

If they had the frequency of the stealth pilot's radio, and could tell if he was listening or not (which means they were getting a carrier signal back from him), why couldn't they track his plane?

Oh yeah, CTU's tactical teams are USELESS. Holy crap are they useless.
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i think it was too late to do anything about the plane at that point
 
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The Bookerman

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What I don't understand is.... that Air Force One has counter mesures for missiles.... and missiles aren't stealth.


Theorically.air force one should have known that they had a sidewinder or another air to air missile on their asses.
 
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golem

Member
how is palmer going to enter the show if the VP is still in the way? unless novak has some sneaky plans.. not sure how that will work out
?
 
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DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Getting aside from the nitpicking which we could do to hell and high water... back to the story... you know Jack had the pilot until he mentioned the pilots sister and that he had her on the phone... that seemed to piss Mitch off...
Anyone else think the sister is already dead?

EDIT: Skluck since we're talking about something that hasn't been clarified yet you need to spoiler tag it.
 
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SKluck

Banned
I thought the same thing. Like he's doing this because of his sister's death or something.

I'm rather disappointed with 24's "twists" lately. You could see this coming the moment you saw the f-117.
 
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Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
why the fuck did air force one just sit there? i know its a big plane but surely it doesnt have to take 11 minutes (or whatever it was) to decend, and why leave the president on a plane thats about to get shot down?!? Wheres the parachutes?!

And Chloe, what the fuck are you doing telling edgar in the middle of a vital mission that he's not gonna be able to bury his mom!! FFS WAIT TILL AFTERWARDS!

And SINCE WHEN was michelle a skank? When Tony went to prison last season we were supposed to believe that she was still very much in love with Tony, now they are telling us she cheated on him when he was in prison?

And Pauls character just continues to make no sense.

This episode was a mess from start to finish imo. I think next week Jack should wake up, revealing that this weeks episode was just a nightmare.
 
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KarishBHR

Member
DarienA said:
Umm... where was the twist? I figured that out as soon as I saw a pilot was involved.... what... 2 weeks ago?
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Ditto, but it was an amazing episode anyway. Im in Israel, but I did download the preview for this episode... and it said nothing about a "twist".
 
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shantyman

WHO DEY!?
Fifty said:
Marwan is hilarious....he always has a guy waiting in a van to pick him up. He must have 30 of them just hiding around different parts of LA. Here's a tip for CTU: next time you've cornered him in a building, put a giant net around it, perhaps even watch fire exits and other emergency exits, because the odds are that he's going to come sneaking out of them.
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Yes, assaulting a bulding and not sealing off the exits was one of the worst plot holes ever.
 
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CloudNL

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"24" Appearance Changes a Life


Tomorrow night's episode of "24" will be a special one for a Twin Cities family.



A White Bear Lake teenager will make a second appearance on the show. A teenager whose dreams became reality by the Make A Wish Foundation.



This is Pete Meslow and Keifer Sutherland on the set of 24. At just 19, cancer took away Pete’s ability to go to school, play sports and even walk. But it was a show based on a 24-hour day that gave Pete a lifetime of memories.



For many, watching 24 takes us away from the troubles of daily life, if only for an hour. For Pete Meslow, it took him away from the reality of battling with cancer. “Peter became part of the family at 24.”



In January of 2003, Pete was diagnosed with osteosarcoma, a type of bone cancer. In February of 04, this White Bear Lake teenager's “Make a Wish” became reality: he met the cast of 24, then became a part of it



“Peter talked about 24 every single day, from the day he had Make a Wish. It was something that made the good days better and brightened some pretty hard day for him.”



That is Peter, sitting there as an extra. His brother was also in the scene. “It was perfect for him, mind-blowing for both of us, never expected anything like that.”



Throughout the next year Pete and Keifer Sutherland kept in touch. “’Dear Peter, another season of 24 is coming to a close and can't think one of the best times we all had is having you out to the set.’”



In February, Pete went back to California. On February 1st he shot this scene that will air tomorrow. 7 days later, on February 8th he died.



“He came home and said, ‘Mom, I haven't thought of cancer for 5 days.’ And that it gives me so much happiness to know he was happy out there last week of his life.”



“’Keep your chin up and don't forget how you have handled yourself during this fight it’s made all of us so proud to know you.’”



The letters and memorabilia are reminders to Pete’s family how Keifer and the cast opened their lives to a young teenager who never gave up his battle with cancer.



“I need to look them in the eyes and tell them how happy they made Peter's last year of life.”



Pete’s family will have a party tomorrow to watch the episode that will air at 8pm.



Pete’s scene is just after the last commercial break. The family plans on going to California in the near future to meet with the cast of 24.
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The 24 crew is awesome.
But what a sad story :'(
 
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AssMan

Banned
Didn't bother reading the whole thread, but do you guys think the president is dead? Seems like civilians will discover the crash site, and then take the football.
 
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BuckRobotron

Member
I was underwhelmed by this episode, just seemed predictable and even boring despite a good amount of gunplay added to supposedly boost the overall excitement meter.
 
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CloudNL

Member
Or... maybe us "nitpickers" expect more out of 24.
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Just enjoy the right.
And what if Anderson failed with shooting down Air Force One? Would that be any different? No everybody would be saying "The writers didn't have the guts to do it. They suck!". It's never good. People ALWAYS complain in the Western world!

I hate nitpickers.
 
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