25+ dead in a terrorist attack that targeted tourists, Hindus

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Yikes. Terrible stuff. Reportedly they went around pulling down people's trousers to check if they were of their faith and killed anyone who wasn't.

This comes as JD Vance is in India to try to seal a trade deal, so I wonder if this was some sort of message, even if a completely brain dead terrorist one.


Major question now is India's response, it's very different than it was in 2008 with the Mumbai terror attacks where that administration largely did nothing, only now are the culprits of that dropping dead, how will they respond to this now with a much stronger posture in the world.
 
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Yikes. Terrible stuff. Reportedly they went around pulling down people's trousers to check if they were of their faith and killed anyone who wasn't.

This comes as JD Vance is in India to try to seal a trade deal, so I wonder if this was some sort of message, even if a completely brain dead terrorist one.


Major question now is India's response, it's very different than it was in 2008 with the Mumbai terror attacks where that administration largely did nothing, only now are the culprits of that dropping dead, how will they respond to this now with a much stronger posture in the world.

This seems more religious that anything to do with Vance. He does seem like one of the horsemen of the apocalypse right now I'll give you that, wouldn't want to be the next person he visits is visited upon.
 
Um, what?
Muslims shave or otherwise remove pubic hair or at least certain sects do.

No, many if not most modern people shave pubes now, I didn't want to be too graphic or risk a closure by naming the religion or something but Muslims near universally circumcise, while it's unofficially looked at with horror in Sikhism and Hinduism which were subject to a lot of forced attempts over centuries by Turkic invaders. They were checking if people were cut aka "one of them", and killing anyone that was an "infidel"

In America it may not make sense because they also do it for some grandfathered in reason that just never ended like it has in most of the developed secular world, in India it's a clear divide, even the Christians there don't do it and Judaism is just a too small population and probably wouldn't get a visual pass just appearance wise before checking that anyways.
 
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This seems more religious that anything to do with Vance. He does seem like one of the horsemen of the apocalypse right now I'll give you that, wouldn't want to be the next person he visits is visited upon.
It was a fundamentalist religious terror group for sure, but there could also be something to the timing in that they don't want the growing alliance between the US and India and put a mark on this visit

India and the US were always the big satans to these fundamentalists, and Israel a mini satan, and they don't want the partnership to strengthen
 
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This comes as JD Vance is in India to try to seal a trade deal, so I wonder if this was some sort of message, even if a completely brain dead terrorist one.

Considering the group that has claimed responsibility for the attack has claimed violence will be directed toward those attempting to settle in the area illegally, doubtful, what would that have to do with a trade deal.
 
Yikes. Terrible stuff. Reportedly they went around pulling down people's trousers to check if they were of their faith and killed anyone who wasn't.

Getting a bullet to the brain because some psychos checked your dick to see if you were cut or not. Fucking ridiculous that this happens in 2025.
 
Getting a bullet to the brain because some psychos checked your dick to see if you were cut or not. Fucking ridiculous that this happens in 2025.

That's fucking absurd, yet that's what happened. Men got shot based on their dick.

If it wasn't such a tragedy I'd be laughing at how mental that sounds.
 
As for india if you don't respond harshly expect more.

True. They did nothing after the shocking Mumbai hotel attack. Only so many years later are the perpetrators falling dead wherever they are in the world to "unknown gunmen", and honestly, good.

This new India is going to root out and find every perpetrator wherever they are, even if Pakistan tries to wave around their nukes to protect the terrorists as always. No glory, only the death of rabid dogs for these terrorists.
 
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One woman was with her husband on their honeymoon, they asked for IDS and checked the the man was hindu and killed him on spot.

Fuck this desert cult.


 
You have to be out of your mind to travel to Kashmir as a tourist. It's been notorious for decades and governments give strict advise to not go there for vacation.
 
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You have to be out of your mind to travel to Kashmir as a tourist. It's been notorious for decades and governments give strict advise to not go there for vacation.
Fair opinion but normalization also has to happen at some point, since raising Kashmir to full statehood infrastructure, investment, and quality of life upgrades have been pouring into Indian Kashmir, as has a sense of normalcy. This attack is exactly to make people feel like things aren't normal, and such pinpricks have always been Pakistan's tactic to keep India off its footing since they got clapped in every conventional war they started.
 
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This seems more religious that anything to do with Vance. He does seem like one of the horsemen of the apocalypse right now I'll give you that, wouldn't want to be the next person he visits is visited upon.
Can someone give me a recap of what vance did lately to be so utterly trolled?

(I mean after the zelensky meeting debacle)
 
So all Muslims are terrorists? Is that what you're saying?

And peace? More wars were started under the banner of Christianity than almost anything... Not to mention the upkeep of Chattel Slavery in the Americas and Caribbean.

Christian nations banned slavery first. Have you also never heard of the Arab Slave Trade that lasted like 3 times longer than the Trans Atlantic one?

They still had open air slave markets in Saudi Arabia when Dr. Who debuted in the UK.

Muslims, when polled, show that a MAJORITY answer that terrorism is ok. And those are the ones that have the balls to publicly admit that to a pollster.

And the only "wars" fought in the name of Christianity were the Crusades, which were just trying to reclaim land that was invaded by Muslim Arabs from the Arabian peninsula.

Maybe these swaths of the world can finally catch up to the 21st century? Or are you going to give them a pass even today because 1000 years ago some Christians tried to reclaim lost lands?
 
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So all Muslims are terrorists? Is that what you're saying?
  • 63.4 percent of all terror-related deaths between 2013 and 2019 were linked to Islamism. source
  • Nine-tenths of the 43,000 people on MI5's terror watchlist are Islamist extremists. source
  • Nearly 60 percent of polled Muslim Americans thought that Hamas was at least "somewhat justified" in attacking Israel on 10/7/23 in which they slaughtered 1200 Jews and took hundreds of civilians hostage as part of their "resistance campaign." source
These are but a smattering of statistics correlating Islam with violence. Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but terrorism in today's world, and for a good part of the last half-century, has been hugely driven by faithful adherents to the death cult. After all, they're just following the example of their so-called prophet, who was a slave-trading, warmongering, pedophilic barbaric savage.

And peace? More wars were started under the banner of Christianity than almost anything...

Citation?

Not to mention the upkeep of Chattel Slavery in the Americas and Caribbean.

... not to mention the Ottoman slave trade, the Barbary slave trade, or the Trans-Saharan slave trade, the longest lasting in history, extending well into the 20th century. Oh, and they had a curious practice of regularly castrating black African men.
 
  • 63.4 percent of all terror-related deaths between 2013 and 2019 were linked to Islamism. source
  • Nine-tenths of the 43,000 people on MI5's terror watchlist are Islamist extremists. source
  • Nearly 60 percent of polled Muslim Americans thought that Hamas was at least "somewhat justified" in attacking Israel on 10/7/23 in which they slaughtered 1200 Jews and took hundreds of civilians hostage as part of their "resistance campaign." source
These are but a smattering of statistics correlating Islam with violence. Not every Muslim is a terrorist, but terrorism in today's world, and for a good part of the last half-century, has been hugely driven by faithful adherents to the death cult. After all, they're just following the example of their so-called prophet, who was a slave-trading, warmongering, pedophilic barbaric savage.



Citation?



... not to mention the Ottoman slave trade, the Barbary slave trade, or the Trans-Saharan slave trade, the longest lasting in history, extending well into the 20th century. Oh, and they had a curious practice of regularly castrating black African men.
They literally used slave labor in Qatar for the Olympics.



There are more slaves today, than ever in history.



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India's carrier battle group headed to off of Pakistan to ward off any retaliation to what will probably be India taking out terrorist launching pads close to the border. Last time this happened it ended with India destroying Pakistan's port, sinking their warships and navy, and coming back unscathed iirc. Their air force has procurement issues but their navy could still honest to god solo all of Pakistan still, and SSBN's are incredibly difficult to find and kill. India has a great spot for them with the bay of Bengal too which is deep, too far to target, while their missiles can target sites in Pakistan with precision.


Not wishing for an all out kinetic war, Pakistan would be stupid to respond to protect a few goat humping terrorists who are about to get some FREEDOM
 
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So all Muslims are terrorists? Is that what you're saying?

And peace? More wars were started under the banner of Christianity than almost anything... Not to mention the upkeep of Chattel Slavery in the Americas and Caribbean.

No, not all Muslims are radical cunts - that should go without saying. But let's cut the bullshit and stop pretending there isn't a consistent, glaring pattern when it comes to global terrorism and its ideological roots. Islam, more than any other religion in modern history, has produced a wildly disproportionate number of violent actors who justify their brutality through scripture.

We can talk geopolitics, Western imperialism, and historical grievances all day - and sure, those factors play a role. But they're not the core. The core, for many of these arseholes, is religious conviction backed by scripture that doesn't just allow violence - it goddamn commands it. These aren't fringe misinterpretations. They're chapter and verse.

Happy to provide examples but I'm already straying far into politics.

People can follow whatever religion they like. But let's not pretendi that Islam doesn't have a serious, internal problem with violence, misogyny, and institutionalised cruelty that's been baked into its core texts from day dot.
 
Christian nations banned slavery first. Have you also never heard of the Arab Slave Trade that lasted like 3 times longer than the Trans Atlantic one?

They still had open air slave markets in Saudi Arabia when Dr. Who debuted in the UK.

Muslims, when polled, show that a MAJORITY answer that terrorism is ok. And those are the ones that have the balls to publicly admit that to a pollster.

And the only "wars" fought in the name of Christianity were the Crusades, which were just trying to reclaim land that was invaded by Muslim Arabs from the Arabian peninsula.

Maybe these swaths of the world can finally catch up to the 21st century? Or are you going to give them a pass even today because 1000 years ago some Christians tried to reclaim lost lands?

Those are not "Christian" nations. There's no official national religion in any of them. It's not codified. So no... No "Christian" nation abolished chattel slavery.

Not to mention chattel slavery (under the Atlantic Slave Trade) has differences with Arab Slave Trade. As a slave, any child you had was born free. And you could gain your freedom by converting to Islam. Not to mention it didn't usually mean lifelong and generationally handed down slavery. You had rights under the Arab Slave Trade and none under chattel slavery. Both were horrific but you could gain your freedom and you children were born free in one.

The crusades weren't the only wars fought under Christianity (as a Christian, war is evil to the Lord) ... the Crusades, the Reconquista, the Thirty Years' War, and the Hussite Wars. Not to mention the KKK terrorizing black and brown citizens under the guise of Christianity.

And where did you get those stats about polling Muslims? What were the questions? What country(ies) was it conducted? What were the percentages? Who created the poll?

There is a clear anti-muslim bias from some posters... And the person I was responding to never said "but not all Muslims are terrorists"... It's not implied, either.
 
Fair opinion but normalization also has to happen at some point, since raising Kashmir to full statehood infrastructure, investment, and quality of life upgrades have been pouring into Indian Kashmir, as has a sense of normalcy. This attack is exactly to make people feel like things aren't normal, and such pinpricks have always been Pakistan's tactic to keep India off its footing since they got clapped in every conventional war they started.

Both Pakistan and India have done their fair shares of fucking Kashmir up. Admittedly, Pakistan seem to care far less about developing the region and giving it back some autonomy, but India have still be authoritarian.

And India have a terrible track record regarding taking over Himalayan kingdoms. Only Nepal and Bhutan have survived.
 
Both Pakistan and India have done their fair shares of fucking Kashmir up. Admittedly, Pakistan seem to care far less about developing the region and giving it back some autonomy, but India have still be authoritarian.
India raised it to statehood and gave it a free and fair election. This comes after that normalization. While it's been heavy handed at times, it had a major terrorist problem funded by Pakistan to deal with there.

Sometimes you give the carrot, sometimes you have to give the stick. Kashmiri Hindu's were targeted and murdered for decades and decades by these Islamists and driven out of their own homes, you can't draw any equivalency here for cracking down on the problem of militancy, what looks like a crackdown to some is actually a protection of another population to others.

Most of us live in countries that don't have to make these decisions, and are blessed for it. India, Israel, do not. The depth of the response is what's up for criticism, but we have to keep some context and moral clarity here, it's like South Korea isn't perfect but we can't just call it the same as North.

And India have a terrible track record regarding taking over Himalayan kingdoms. Only Nepal and Bhutan have survived.

The last king of Kashmir acceded to India as they all had the right and choice to. Pakistan quickly sent in tribal armed men aka also the Pakistani army to massacre Hindus and cause the whole rift in turn. There was no "taking over" of Kashmir, it followed the process to join the democratic union and should have been a peaceful joining otherwise.
 
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Those are not "Christian" nations. There's no official national religion in any of them. It's not codified. So no... No "Christian" nation abolished chattel slavery.

Not to mention chattel slavery (under the Atlantic Slave Trade) has differences with Arab Slave Trade. As a slave, any child you had was born free. And you could gain your freedom by converting to Islam. Not to mention it didn't usually mean lifelong and generationally handed down slavery. You had rights under the Arab Slave Trade and none under chattel slavery. Both were horrific but you could gain your freedom and you children were born free in one.

The crusades weren't the only wars fought under Christianity (as a Christian, war is evil to the Lord) ... the Crusades, the Reconquista, the Thirty Years' War, and the Hussite Wars. Not to mention the KKK terrorizing black and brown citizens under the guise of Christianity.

And where did you get those stats about polling Muslims? What were the questions? What country(ies) was it conducted? What were the percentages? Who created the poll?

There is a clear anti-muslim bias from some posters... And the person I was responding to never said "but not all Muslims are terrorists"... It's not implied, either.

No! Don't give Christian nations credit for anything! They just HAPPENED to be all Christians that ended slavery first. Just a coincidence!

You can try to diminish the Arab slave trade if you wish, the Arabs wound up killing much more during the Saharan transit, castrated the men, and African women were given forced abortions because in Islamic law they can potentially claim property if a child was involved. The Arabs started taking slaves in the 600s, quite the head start!

There is zero Muslim bias here. Facts are now bias? Ha.

Let's just go by the teachings. Christianity says love your neighbor and turn the other cheek.

Islam says you deserve death if you leave the religion. And when you ask them, they agree!

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Btw, Islam, like any other religion, is just a collection of ideas. We can criticize ideas, at least we still can here in the USA. Not sure if the de facto blasphemy laws (but only for Islam) have gone into effect in the UK yet.

The Reconquista and the Crusades were just trying to reclaim lost lands to Muslim invaders. Or is allowing the Arab invasion of the Middle East and North Africa ok because they're not Europeans?

And do you have any examples that are not from at least as far back as the Middle Ages? You know we've had something called the Enlightenment since the 17th century. Did this information ever reach the Muslim lands or does information need more than 400 years to travel across the globe?

Bringing up the KKK btw is just embarrassingly bad. They have nothing to do with anything.

I think YOU sir have the bias, but in favor and playing defense for a collection of ideas that make people either do bad things or at minimum, support those who do.
 
I ain't (I'm Southern, Sue me) getting into a pissing match about slavery or who's worse... I gave you additional information, so did you give to me... That's that as far as I'm concerned. I don't concede but I definitely withdraw from this
 


Country 1 is doing live fire drills + displaying photos photos of a shotdown fighter jet. Country 2 sends a CSG to the area after cutting the fresh supply of water to the disputed region. Both sides armed with nuclear weapons.
What could possibly go wrong
 
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Pakistan asked for this. You cant keep training and sending terrorists into another country and expect nothing to happen. Especially when you rely on the same country's goodwill to literally provide you water. A bunch of fucking retards.
 
So all Muslims are terrorists? Is that what you're saying?

And peace? More wars were started under the banner of Christianity than almost anything... Not to mention the upkeep of Chattel Slavery in the Americas and Caribbean.
Everyone is aware most muslims are normal people, but you are naive and excusing what is going on. Truth is a lot of muslims view terrorists as badass warriors for their faith. There are millions who support it and every country with large muslim populations are facing attacks by muslims.

Its not a small thing, its a significant part of their religion, and the "they are not all terrorists" line is undermining development towards stopping this. muslims themselves need to stop this, not pretend it aint happening, as they currently are doing.

it is a religion made for war, its not like christianity or judaism in that sense, islam is a newer copy of those religions, but is built for a warlord to subjugate people.

read on al quidas rampage in africa the last few months. Its destroying people in asia, europe and africa alike.
 
Some seriously naive people in this thread and the world sticking up for Muslims the majority of them are maniacs.

You won't gaslight me into believing Christians are just as bad or worse.
 
Some seriously naive people in this thread and the world sticking up for Muslims the majority of them are maniacs.

You won't gaslight me into believing Christians are just as bad or worse.
They were, not anymore, but they were quite as bad. Legacy of that… one very very very simple thing… in the modern Italy, despite all of the fake progressivism and the famous historical compromise with communist parties post war, there is a 5 days of mourning for the death of Pope Francis and, actually more relevant to the point, blasphemy against God is still a crime you can be fined for… to this day.
 
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So all Muslims are terrorists? Is that what you're saying?

And peace? More wars were started under the banner of Christianity than almost anything... Not to mention the upkeep of Chattel Slavery in the Americas and Caribbean.

What a stupid comment. We are not in ancient times.

I am not religious but today all violent terrorists are Muslim. Zero terroist groups are Christian.
 
Not excusing Pakistan, fuck about with being a giant terrorist factory, find out.

But this didn't help…

 
So all Muslims are terrorists? Is that what you're saying?
Vast majority of terrorists are muslims though.

And peace? More wars were started under the banner of Christianity than almost anything... Not to mention the upkeep of Chattel Slavery in the Americas and Caribbean.
As an atheist i am grateful i live in a christian country. I have the freedom to speak my mind and criticize religion. Try that in an islamic country.

Christianity is not like it was in the dark ages but islam still is. So making this comparison to defend islam is stupid.
 
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