Kacho
Member
Like I said in a previous post, Halo will be judged with or without her. I was simply explaining WHY people are skeptical to clarky boy.
whooosh
343i is dead, renamed Halo studios.
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clarky
Gold Member
Give me a break its been a long day and im stuck in the middle of the Atlantic on shitty wifi.
Still like i said a pride flag is neither here nor there and i dont judge people on looks alone.
Has there been any reports of DEI toxicity at Halo studios ? 343i sounded like a shitty work environment full stop regardless.
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That's the point, Halo Studios is being run by completely different leadership team now. I'm sure there are a bunch of people still there from 343, but the leadership is all new.What's the point if it's just the same people/management involved anyway? They want to drag the Halo brand name even deeper into the dirt by attaching it to a bad studio?
clarky
Gold Member
Most of the dev team have departed also.
This is about as close to a fresh start as we are going to get, yet some still don't get that.
There is nothing left to hate.
Teh Chosen Juan
Member
Welp. DOA everybody. Lessons still haven't been learned. Just the fact alone that her business profile has a rainbow flag bullshit shows where her priorities are. Would have been nice to go to her page and see maybe se game content on her banner. You know, shit that shows she's not all about bullshit, pandering, propaganda.
simpatico
Member
Microsoft: See's Halo is in a hole --> Jumps into hole and aggressively starts digging deeper. Been my experience with all their products to be honest. I need to start brushing up on my Linux because there's just no way I'm upgrading my personal rig to 11. Everybody has their line. 11 had just enough little jabs to finish me off. All America wants is the under-the-hood stuff in 10 and the aesthetic beauty of NT. They'll never give it to us.
Kacho
Member
I don't even have beef with you man. You were being a condescending prick so I'm giving it back to you.
I don't have an answer to your question. I'm just contextualizing the concern people have, including myself. I seriously doubt she's the next Laura Fryer.
At the end of the day if Halo is good nobody will care. It's just now, in the current climate, people look at that stuff sideways.
clarky
Gold Member
If i came across as condescending then i apologise, i just fail to see the hate this woman seems to be getting because of a pride flag and the way she looks.
Now if she starts wanting to be called proffessor and all that jazz then thats a different story. Like i said she seems alright in the vidoc to me. Passionate even.
Guess im just used to this stuff. Where i live they even painted the pedestrian crossings as rainbows instead of black and white.
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stickkidsam
Member
I was confused too since yeah, a pride flag alone didn't seem to say much.
Pegasus expanded on her background here though:
That's info straight from the Microsoft webpage for her.
"Melissa joined Xbox Research in the summer of 2015. After earning her BA in psychology from Spelman College in 2008, Melissa went on to complete her PhD in social psychology and public health from Columbia University. Her research in public health focused on how people's social interactions influenced their risk for HIV and substance abuse – particularly with African Americans and Latinx folks, LGBTQ+ people, and women – but also how these people's personal resilience could be developed and supported to help them avoid poor health outcomes.
Melissa did a stint conducting market research in video games – which was so much fun it inspired her to make the leap to the games world. Currently, Melissa manages research across several Xbox franchises and experiences, including Ninja Theory, Compulsion Games, Double Fine Studios, and the Xbox Store. She also leads research in diversity, inclusion, and accessibility across Xbox's games and experiences, with a focus on making Xbox a place where everyone has fun!"
Now I get that you're pretty much down with all of this, and that's your right... but pretending you just can't fathom why anyone would have an issue with her is fucking hilarious.
As for what it takes to qualify for being "deep" in it, I'd say it's like porn. Ya spank it when ya see it.
If you're championing DEI initiatives I think it's safe to say you've bought into the idea.
Moriarty1889
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Moriarty1889
Member
After the shitshow Bonnie Ross put on its unreal MS would choose this woman. MS seem intent on virtue signaling and risking the rest of Halo's already damaged image. Unreal and just shows what an utter mess the industry has become.
BbMajor7th
Member
When studios say they're moving to UE5 I think they're expecting me to be wowed - and, I kind of am: 'wow, patchy frame rates, reconstruction artefacts and loading stutter."
Jinzo Prime
Member
What is with this misinformation?
Pierre Hintze is the head of Halo Studios. She's the HR manager.
Let's give the guy who fixed the Master Chief Collection a chance before we go apeshit, this is pathetic.
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Teh Chosen Juan
Member
ok. well, let's meet back here after the game is released and we can catch up on how things have gone. deal? maybe then you'll get it. figured the past 12 years of life maybe could open up heads and eyes like yours, but as we're seeing everywhere, still a lot of people that don't see the cancer. talk soon! xoxo
Jinzo Prime
Member
You made a mistake in the heat of the moment and I forgive you. It can happen to anyone!
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Kacho
Member
I think that's fair.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
And see this right here is my problem. The bolded. If the next Halo is good nobody will care. But shouldn't they care?! LOL! If it's good, shouldn't they want to give credit to someone?
And why is this lady getting so much hate, but no Phil Spencer? He's overseeing the whole thing.
VAVA Mk2
Member
Fuck Bonnie Ross. I hate her so much.You clearly have zero brains if you can't figure it out. Hint: her entire existence is being a DEI caricature which no doubt permeates the entire studio. Why is that needed to make a successful dudebro shooter? <-- rhetorical question btw
Do you think she's the new real Master Chief?
Look, if this doesn't raise any alarms for you, more power to ya. The last thing Halo needs is more uncertainty looming over it, especially after a decade of failure.
Kacho
Member
Until we know it's good (literal years away) we can only speculate, and considering how trash entertainment has become, it's hard not to be skeptical unless you've been living under a rock.
Also LOL @ "why hate her and not Phil Spencer"
Could you be anymore disingenuous? lmao
Angry_Megalodon
Member
She does much more than "recruiting". Just read her job description. She has a major impact on the studio as if hiring weren't impactful enough.
It's quite the promotion, from "doing videogames research" to leading multiple projects at a top gaming studio. Then we pretend to be shocked by companies "being out of touch" and alienating their fanbase. No matter how well-intended diversity hires are, they are tourists. They aren't passionate about this hobby, they don't like it, let alone understand it. They think "gamers" are annoying nerds. Guess what, you need nerds to run a videogame studio.
This is the same as hiring showrunners who never watched a Star Wars movie to direct The Acolyte. Clown world.
It's quite the promotion, from "doing videogames research" to leading multiple projects at a top gaming studio. Then we pretend to be shocked by companies "being out of touch" and alienating their fanbase. No matter how well-intended diversity hires are, they are tourists. They aren't passionate about this hobby, they don't like it, let alone understand it. They think "gamers" are annoying nerds. Guess what, you need nerds to run a videogame studio.
This is the same as hiring showrunners who never watched a Star Wars movie to direct The Acolyte. Clown world.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
You guys will really freak out if you read her description under her Principal UX Researcher role. (need to log in to LinkedIn, enjoy)
Shrap
Member
No she's not. She's the chief of staff which is a much more directly impactful role. Nice try with your own misinformation.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Should be called beating a dead horse studio
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
Just saw this halo is over.
All the best
odhiex
Member
I don't quite understand the purpose of this announcement.
"Project Foundry" – a multi-discipline research project designed to explore the creative potential of Unreal for the next generation of Halo games." --> This is from the YouTube trailer's description.
How exciting!! This footage may not well be in future games either since this is technically not the development build. This is a developer recruitment video/advertisement, basically. The games may be way further in the future. I guess, we shall wait and see, again.
Plus, the Halo Studios logo is not so inpiring.
"Project Foundry" – a multi-discipline research project designed to explore the creative potential of Unreal for the next generation of Halo games." --> This is from the YouTube trailer's description.
How exciting!! This footage may not well be in future games either since this is technically not the development build. This is a developer recruitment video/advertisement, basically. The games may be way further in the future. I guess, we shall wait and see, again.
Plus, the Halo Studios logo is not so inpiring.
Oddvintagechap
Banned
worse logo i seen in a while.
I have faith in Pierre. Glad they made the engine switch. I do wonder what the target hardware was for their Foundry experiment and how the Series S factors in?
Selfishly I'd want the following in new Halo:
-linear campaign unless open world has different biomes
-big team battle being part of mp focus
-flood return
-m rated w/ blood
Selfishly I'd want the following in new Halo:
-linear campaign unless open world has different biomes
-big team battle being part of mp focus
-flood return
-m rated w/ blood
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
James Sawyer Ford
Member
"Melissa joined Xbox Research in the summer of 2015. After earning her BA in psychology from Spelman College in 2008, Melissa went on to complete her PhD in social psychology and public health from Columbia University. Her research in public health focused on how people's social interactions influenced their risk for HIV and substance abuse – particularly with African Americans and Latinx folks, LGBTQ+ people, and women – but also how these people's personal resilience could be developed and supported to help them avoid poor health outcomes."
What experience does she have that warrants her being essentially the chief executive officer of Halo Studios after joining the Xbox Research seem in 2015? Clearly none of that Research since 2015 was valuable given the state of affairs today....
This is just insanity how any company operates like this.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I'm not even a Halo gamer. In fact, I dont play any Bungie games, since I prefer boots to the ground games like COD. But Halo needs to go back to this awesome hype back in the day.
YukiOnna
Member
Yeah, you're kidding yourself if you think this isn't an understandable cause for concern for people who don't like this stuff. That isn't some mere "Office Manager" nor "HR" and if she was in HR that'd be its own brand of worry. It explicitly states her background and field at Xbox and there's no relevance to Gaming or Halo. I have zero reason to trust them so my expectations are lower now.
"Melissa joined Xbox Research in the summer of 2015. After earning her BA in psychology from Spelman College in 2008, Melissa went on to complete her PhD in social psychology and public health from Columbia University. Her research in public health focused on how people's social interactions influenced their risk for HIV and substance abuse – particularly with African Americans and Latinx folks, LGBTQ+ people, and women – but also how these people's personal resilience could be developed and supported to help them avoid poor health outcomes.
Melissa did a stint conducting market research in video games – which was so much fun it inspired her to make the leap to the games world. Currently, Melissa manages research across several Xbox franchises and experiences, including Ninja Theory, Compulsion Games, Double Fine Studios, and the Xbox Store. She also leads research in diversity, inclusion, and accessibility across Xbox's games and experiences, with a focus on making Xbox a place where everyone has fun!"
Now I get that you're pretty much down with all of this, and that's your right... but pretending you just can't fathom why anyone would have an issue with her is fucking hilarious.
DirtyBast8rd
Member
I didn't judge she/her based on the way she/her looks, but the flag behind her bio and the need to mention pronouns is she/her sending a message thus i get the idea she belongs to a certain group of people known to fuck up everything a man with a working ballsack loves. It's unnecessary and doesn't add anything to her working skills.
As I understand it, the role of the Chief of Staff is to be the interface between the upper management and the employees, so it doesn't make her the CEO. Before this, she was a research manager for 4 years, and it looks like her key skillset is data analysis. Being able to communicate effectively seems to be what her job requires and what her previous experience was geared towards.
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VAVA Mk2
Member
Yeah this is my concern. I don't give a shit about her personal beliefs or practices. Her work history does not sound like someone with enough experience to be in a leadership position so high in an industry she doesn't really have much experience or training in. What does Chief of Staff do? Please don't say she is responsible for franchise development and lore.
Stop using logic and making sense! You can't use critical thinking in here we must be up in arms because the HR person has purple hair so she's personally going to go to the programmer's desks and rewrite their code to make it gay! Grab your pitchfork brother, we go to war! (uber sarcasm btw, just in case someone thinks I'm serious)
Badlucktroll
Member
I bet the next game (after infinite) will be a multiplatform unreal engine 5 remake of halo combat evolved in 2026 that they will intend to reintroduce everyone to halo and it will be on playstation and switch 2
clarky
Gold Member
Chief of staff (generally speaking).
"Duties include managing and directing programs, facilitating communication between departments, providing administrative and strategic support to the executive team and managing the day-to-day activities of personnel."
Looks like she is a Psychology graduate so sound about right. If you are on your period she would be your first stop basically.
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Ponderling
Member
Rotate the new logo 90 degrees clockwise....
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Your gaslighting is pretty poor, since you didn't even bother to read her JOB DESCRIPTION.
I will bring it to you.
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Moriarty1889
Member
She checks certain boxes and MS cares more about that.
CuteFaceJay
Member
This cow was already giving powdered milk god knows what state the cow will be after all this.
The thing is I've actually went and looked at her profile on LinkedIn and saw nothing that would make me want to start shouting doom and gloom with regards to the future of the Halo franchise. So no, I'm not gaslighting anyone, I'm making fun of the childish discourse that can go on around here and has only been getting worse lately.Your gaslighting is pretty poor, since you didn't even bother to read her JOB DESCRIPTION.
I will bring it to you.
Then again I'm not American so I don't see things in either black or white, left or right. This is not an RPG where you just have the evil or good choice for your character, reality is a lot more nuanced but people seem to want to ignore that fact. If the next Halo sucks it will not be because of her but rather a collection of decisions from the top brass. Same if the next Halo is awesome, it will not be just because of her although I really do hope the next game is amazing just so it will shut up some of you (I know it won't as you'll find the next petty thing to latch onto)
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Angry_Megalodon
Member
yes, like the androids from Westworld. No surprises.
You also disregarded their statements about "changing the culture" in which this person plays a central role.
Everything in the running of a company is connected. The hiring process impacts the culture, the culture impacts the creative decisions and that defines the product.
At this point, we can only make assumptions. If the game is bad I will laugh, if it turns out great I will say it's great. I'm not "shutting up" either way.
"At this point, we can only make assumptions." Exactly! I was laughing at the people assuming that Halo is destroyed based on some LinkedIn profile of a person that is not even a creative lead or a game director. You accuse me of gaslighting because I did not join the bandwagon while stating yourself that you're just assuming stuff, that's insane. You're confrontational because I did not assume the same thing you assumed
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
First new game image has leaked....
Moriarty1889
Member
All kidding aside that's propably what will happen. Looks like with her girth she would bitch slap Master Chief into next week. And of course he would be replaced with a woman of color yet again for the lead role in the game.First new game image has leaked....
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TransTrender
Gold Member
It's going to be really awkward when MS closes Halo Studios.
Some literal retard energy to make that name change.
Do they not realize how bad this could look if they need to close or even rename the studio again?
Leave Halo out of it.
Either keep it 343i or call it Microsoft Game Studios Redmond.
I went to check the Ratio and I see YouTube Dislike is broken:
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Some literal retard energy to make that name change.
Do they not realize how bad this could look if they need to close or even rename the studio again?
Leave Halo out of it.
Either keep it 343i or call it Microsoft Game Studios Redmond.
I went to check the Ratio and I see YouTube Dislike is broken:
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CoreyFlawless
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Wait? Just seen where they got someone to help make this new halo game, yet he hates guns? Halo is a shooter right? So I'm confused.