3DS has surpassed PS3 lifetime sales in Japan
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How does this show how Japanese consumers are spending most of their time????
again, ????
a console sells 21 million. yeah, impressive.
handhelds serve a different market niche than consoles. yeah, thats true.
handhelds and consoles cannot be considered in the context of one another? never said that, of course they can. Just like overall spending on dvds/blurays/movie-attendence can be compared to overall game purchases. Or overall time spend on handhelds vs home consoles.
But comparing a single movie to a single game, or a single handheld to a single home console, is worthless.
the hell are you talking about!? they shouldn't be compared since the Vita has been out longer!
Sorry, I meant Japanese video game consumers spending most of their video game playing time. Thought that was implied.
As for the latter, it's as worthless as the earlier thread that showed 3DS sold 47x more than the Vita in one particular week. Which is, pretty worthless. Doesn't mean it's not an interesting talking point though. I mean most people who follow the Media Create threads just see this data as a matter of course. But making threads like these at arbitrary milestones are how non Sales-Agers can be kept in the loop, in a manner of speaking.
That's all I'm saying, really.
Couldn't a significant portion of initial loss be attributed R&D, initial manufacturing lines, and marketing costs? Perhaps they are making a slight profit on the Vita system, but not enough to help break even from initial costs until year three.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Cause most people when they are outside they don't game... parties, sports, bars, climbing, skiing. Seriously the only time I could see myself enjoying a portable is on a plane ride...
Yeah, too bad they don't. I mean look at dat Vita software support!
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Severe lack of obscure games geared towards the East and better versions of multiplatform games.
I want to know where "portables" = "playing outside the house" notion come from. There are many reasons why playing portables at home is completely valid and comfortable.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
It is, but if I have the choice between large screen and small screen that game has to be all that to even compete with its large brother!
1. The thread is clearly discussing PS3 vs 3DS sales. 3DS and PS3 support both seem fine to me.
2. To what extent do hardware sales have an impact on software support? I mean, look at the 3DS 18 months ago? If anything, the 3DS is proof that hardware sales don't actually matter, because the future of a machine can be turned around with a price drop and a couple of big titles.
3. Vita actually has plenty of software support anyway. 2013 looks to be a bigger year than 2012. Your point again?
In the top ten this week, numbers 1, 2, 4, 6 and 7 are console games. Are you feeling better now?
Brofist
Member
Video games are very much more a kids hobby in Japan. Most kids don't care about playing on a big screen with high fidelity.
chertipros
Member
I'm surprised no one brought up the fact that handhelds have most of the games people in Japan like playing as a reason why they are doing so well over there.
Regardless of screen size, if I want to play Monster Hunter 4, Mario Kart 7, the eventual Pokémon on 3DS or Dragon Quest Monsters / VII I have to play it on the small screen. 3DS isn't a miniature Wii, it has its own library.
The PS3 has not sold much worse in Japan than it has in the US, on a per capita basis. (Americans definitely bought more Wiis and 360s, however, and fewer 3DS/Vita/PSPs, than did Japan.)
DS userbase in Japan = mostly people in their early 20s. They care about the games over the specs, I guess.
http://www.m-create.com/shouhin_shoukai/news_release.htm
My kids are allowed to use the tv, what now? I also find it funny that you mention only husbands and not wives.
It's actually got a pretty good lineup in the country this thread is about
metalslimer
Member
Yes, so if Vita gets Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, and Mario it will all be fine.
It means 3rd parties have a chance for greater sales and more stability which is better for gamers.
Edited for accuracy
Most people live in small apartments and few have a TV. My Japanese friends are surprised I got two.
The cost of living is high and the standard of living is average at best.
TV has become a luxury not a necessity.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Eh.
It's a portable nation
The PS3 isn't doing so hot itself
The DS was wildly popular.
Not impressed. Let's see it eclipse the PS2.
It's a portable nation
The PS3 isn't doing so hot itself
The DS was wildly popular.
Not impressed. Let's see it eclipse the PS2.
chertipros
Member
It's stuff like this that makes me wish that people would look at the 3DS sales in a vacuum. These are very good sales, whether it's the successor to the DS or not
DeaconKnowledge
Member
They are good sales. I just don't see eclipsing PS3 as any sort of a milestone. 3DS is supposed to do this.
VGChampion
Member
It's an easy way to see how far it's come. I don't see why not. If someone created a topic that said the 3DS has sold 21+ million units in Japan I wouldn't even be interested.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Portables beating console sales out in Japan isn't even slightly shocking. Hasn't that always been the norm? Honestly, I wonder if Japan will eventually go portables only.
chertipros
Member
The only time that has happened was this Gen. It came close to that in the PSX era, but the combined jp sales Of the psx, n64, and the Saturn were about equal to the sales of the gameboy+Gameboy color. But the OG gameboy was a beast with killer software and didn't really have any competition so it's not surprising why it sold so well
EDIT: I believe I misunderstood your post
AdventureRacing
Member
You make it sound like that would be a big feat. The 3DS will almost certainly pass the PS2 and compared to the DS that would be quite a backwards step.
It doesn't need any of them, but it will likely get a Monster Hunter at some point in the future.
That must be why all 3rd parties concentrated on Wii development after the PS3 turned out to be such a failure! Hardware sales do not matter. Even the 360 has more Japanese support than the Wii, and look at the sales of that.
metalslimer
Member
Sure it will.
MasterSheen
Member
Monster Hunter Frontier Vita!
Start comparing software sales/revenue on both platforms and I think they'll feel just fine.
test_account
XP-39C²
Personally i dont feel that the PS3 is that relevant in this case. I just see that as a goal post/comparison being made. The 3DS outselling the PS3 isnt really "that is really impressive" in my opinion concidering that the PS3 is a console (usually 1 unit per household VS handhelds that are usually 1 unit per person), and it had a pretty rough couple of years in the begining (high pricing being a bigger factor to that). What i do find impressive though is the turnaround that the 3DS had in Japan. It had a slower start in the first months, but then it started selling very well.
You have a point. Japan loves their handhelds. The real impressive thing is that Sony managed to release a handheld in Japan that is selling less than Dreamcast.
*5 years later*
"Think 3DS will keep going to get to the DS?"
"Maybe. There's at least another two years of life in it."
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Too high a bar. Let's wait until it catches Dreamcast first.
test_account
XP-39C²
That is not hard though. It is just to price a system for $1000 and you achieve that goal easily
Yep, Japan loves their handheld indeed, but the Vita or handheld doesnt matter in this comparsion either in my opinion. "Loving their handhelds" is no guarantee for success either, so i find the 3DS sales impressive regardless of that. If the 3DS was a console, its success would be impressive as well.