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What is this gibberish?
4 new (off-screen) screenshots from STALKER 2 on XS X 'quality' mode
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Kupfer
Member
When S.T.A.L.K.E.R. released in 2007 it was an absolute looker!
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
too much for you to understand?
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Might want to get that eyesight checked before it becomes a real problem.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
We are talking about something different.
You want to make it sound like games look like 360 on ps5 and next gen on pc.
While in reality, most people wouldn't see a difference. real next gen difference will be apparent without squinting
Astray
Member
The photos are very overexposed, wouldn't judge much based on them.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Nah don't exaggerate, nobody here is saying that.
But games on PC do look better. Being able to crank everything to eleven, native 4K or even DLAA which looks even better or using RTX with all the shit and not just some reflections here and there. There's a reason why the most enthusiasts of gamers are spending so much money on the latest GPUs.
It's true that the Pro might be able to shorten the gap, even if just for a while, but overall game's still look way better on PC.
What most people are able to notice doesn't matter. Most people aren't playing on powerful PCs nor on PS5 Pros anyway, so who cares? Doesn't change the facts.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Off-screen shots? Like how they used to cover arcade games in the '90s?
Of fucking course it doesn't look good. The visuals are going to be fine, even on Xbox. Though, anyone who thought this wasn't going to be a PC-first sorta game was kidding themselves.
Of fucking course it doesn't look good. The visuals are going to be fine, even on Xbox. Though, anyone who thought this wasn't going to be a PC-first sorta game was kidding themselves.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I wonder how it'll look on PC, specially interiors.
Imo the stencil shadows of the first games did a lot for the atmosphere. Are those still a thing nowadays?
LordOcidax
Member
When the Xbox Series X games started to look bad?
Let me guess… This game looks really good, people already saying that the game looks like trash because 4 offscreen imagines… Really…https://youtu.be/jRLJ3lV-_V8?si=rHrmdmnv_3GPauq5
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Wolves hunt in packs
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Looks good to me, Thanks for posting, good to see that it will have a performance mode, even tho it was told before, hopefully it will hold 60fps nicely, can't wait 4 more days! 
LordOcidax
Member
For some people is already the worst looking game ever… It's going to be fun here in 4 more days, trust me. And if the DF guys say something positive about the graphics is going to be epic.Looks good to me, Thanks for posting, good to see that it will have a performance mode, even tho it was told before, hopefully it will hold 60fps nicely, can't wait 4 more days!
Wolves hunt in packs
Banned
LordOcidax
Member
Agree. Can't wait to play the game day 1 on GamepassWill be busy exploring every nook and cranny to pay attention to other stuff.
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Buggy Loop
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Because to get Hellblade 2 graphics at bigger scale than corridors, the engine will kill performances and or cost too much for artists to make. The costs of development are skyrocketing especially in the western world. Almost nobody has the budget or talent that Sony had to pull these graphics during PS4 era. Not even sure Sony HAS the budget for the kind of PS4 output they had to be on PS5, we're certainly not seeing it so far into the gen.
Why is 8th gen graphics so good looking on 2 TF hardware? Let's pick a few games, Ghost of Tsushima, Death Stranding, Quantum break, Spider-man, TLoU part 2, MGS 5
Then you have these 9th gen games that have absurd system requirements and don't look a gen ahead on 10 TF hardware, Suicide Squad, Starfield, Forspoken, Gothan Knights, Alan Wake II, Remnants 2, Robocop, Jedi Survivor.
Devs got lazy with optimization exactly because of over reliance of UE. 9th gen basically meant that studios are cutting costs on legitimate optimization processes for faster releases. UE heavily relies on TAA to hide how grainy it looks without it, which is honestly has so much downgrades compared to circa 2015 SMAA in image quality. Yes DLSS is better than "native" which is anyway, TAA garbage, but its not a high bar to surpass. The end result is that these temporal solutions kneecap most graphic effects and smear the image quality. Now devs rely on cool new tech like nanite but its mainly a tool for exorbitant geometry which almost only the cheap labour countries can now afford to make at any big scale, like Wukong. Otherwise, enabling nanite for lower geometry more down to earth games will most often than not hurt performances compared to traditional LOD.
Lumen forces devs to not bake any high quality indirect lights that would save performances and then Lumen's volumetric lightmaps have serious leaking problems which are only mitigated with devs cranking up the volumetric space resolution to stupid levels and blow up the VRAM and performances.
So yea, UE allows games made faster than ever (if you have the budget for the increase in graphics), but is the most inefficient way to present graphics in a long long time. Basically kneecapping all of the best hardware for barely a bump in visuals compared to 2015 era graphics. Is Hellblade 2 system requirements showcasing the kind of visual bump that Quantic dreams' Beyond Two souls managed to pull off on a 256 MB VRAM 0.192 TF hardware from 18 years ago? The fuck happened?
Sadly, I think we'll come to a realization in the future that this massive move to UE5 will be bad in the long run. Konami scrapping Fox Engine, Crystal dynamics going UE5, CD projekt red going UE5, Halo going to UE5, etc etc. Very very worrying imo. I don't think we're heading in the right direction.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Dont forget Flight Simulator 2020.
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Inb4 but some of the cities look like shit...........download all the packs and fly the damn plane.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
how many 30fps only games there are you think? 2? 3?
Why are people even bringing up this point anymore.
Besides - 30 was fine and is fine if done well. It doesn't matter.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I've missed you so much.
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Cant really take anything from those poorly done pics. But I am getting nervous for the performance mode.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Lucky this isnt a First Person Shooter in the traditional sense
Its actually a First Person Survival Horror that just so happens to have guns.
LordOcidax
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Looks good. Fuzzy thumbnail holding his rifle though!
Senua
Member
Not ue5Dont forget Flight Simulator 2020.
Inb4 but some of the cities look like shit...........download all the packs and fly the damn plane.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
The initial poster was stating where are all the games that make your jaw drop like the initial UE5 demo, not necessarily UE5 games per say just games that are legit jaw dropping.
Second poster said on PC.
rofif said really.......and yes there are some legit jaw dropping games on PC, id even add Alan Wake 2 PT to that list. Yeah some of the character models dont hold up, but the environments are sometimes straight offline rendering quality.
Unless I was misunderstanding the intial poster.
bitbydeath
Member
They're no Matrix demo though.
That's the sort of graphics they're referring, not the moderate looking games you listed above.
GTAVI will be the first game to really blow people away.
digital_ghost
I am a closet furry. Don't you judge me.
My friends stalker loves this game. Don't know why.
tmlDan
Member
I dont have a 2 thousand dollar GPU it may be on PC but it wont look much better for me, what now?
bundylove
Banned
Without consoles these games wouldnt exist.
I am gamer for the past 40 years i witnessed the ups and downs of pc gaming.
Consoles helped the industry to expand and take bigger risks.
The days of do it yourself with a small team and budget are over.
No alan wake or stalker would have a sequel if it wouldnt be on consoles as well.
Consoles made gaming mainstream , sony helped a lot here with ps one, and so by extansion pc gaming also became more popular.
Pc gaming was and will be always ahead in terms of graphics but they are financialy supported by consoles as in they can spend a lot of money on r&d and make up that expense through console releases.
I could explain and word this much better but i am doing math with my daughter and if you ever had the plesure to do so you know how quick my brain cells are dying.
Moses85
Member
But on PS5 ProI never believed what they showed few years ago would be real time graphics. it was too good.
The only game that delivered on it's graphical promise is Stellar Blade
I've been playing on PC since the early 90s but have always had a console as well. The thing here is the discussion was not about the economics of video games but rather about a drive-by troll comment about graphics.
I think you're projecting a bit relating to other discussions as my points were squarely focused on the graphics fidelity advantage that the PC platform has almost always enjoyed.
No idea what the market expanding has to do with any of what I said other than goalpost moving
Considering the way that this plain text appears, I'd say that these images are less than worthless for evaluating the image quality of this game on XSX.
DF already played the XSX version at the end of August and was very happy with the game's visual level and IQ. And the game was running at 60fps UE5 using Lumen and Nanite.
But hey!! Don't expect much from the usual suspects drawing conclusions from saturated off-screen images while when it's a game for their platform they make fun of those who do the same and pretend to be people with common sense
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
In 2024 why would anyone be interested in off-screen pictures of a game running? Yikes to this whole thing
bundylove
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Without getting money back from your investment the push for new graphics tech would slow down.I've been playing on PC since the early 90s but have always had a console as well. The thing here is the discussion was not about the economics of video games but rather about a drive-by troll comment about graphics.
I think you're projecting a bit relating to other discussions as my points were squarely focused on the graphics fidelity advantage that the PC platform has almost always enjoyed.
No idea what the market expanding has to do with any of what I said other than goalpost moving
Cant argue with economics
I can buy any pc you throw at me and i dont care.
I enjoy the same game with limited visuals just like you enjoy them at max settings.
And thats my choice and you cant change my mind.
I have different needs than you.
Pc gamers for once have to understand we are ok with our consoles for a reason.
Drive by post is joke from you since you are in an xbox game thread as we talk about xbox version here
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
My brother in Christ are you meant to have this discussion with someone else?!? What I said was PC versions of games push higher fidelity graphics which is and has been objectively true for ages. Where does the "lesson" into the gaming market fit into this?
Games are an entertainment product that needs to sell well to make money for a company so their investors can buy their third holiday home somewhere fancy. I'm fully aware of that. For the last time, my point was that the PC platform has higher quality graphics compared to consoles for reasons that should be painfully obvious.
Holy bad reading comprehension and lack of critical thinking batman, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills in here
bundylove
Banned
Please go back lurking like you said.
Given your post history and 10 year old account
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Graphics tech don't need full games and some don't even need games to advance as they can come from movies or any non real time rendering.
Most of these games you list here weren't made with UE, let alone UE5
bundylove
Banned
In my industry we use a lot of real time rendering for designs so yes .
But when we talk about gaming, most devs would not make a AAA game for pc only to show all the bells and whisels anymore. Why you think pc gamers all they get nowdays is console games to the max and no more pc only high end games?
Cuz of cost.
All games are developed as multiplatform for a reason same happens now at xbox and sony releasing their games accross the board.
And so consoles play a huge roll in all this.
One can argue that pc gamers get their games for cheap or for free cuz the drvs get their money through console releases.
But that every thread is about shitting on console users and how dumb we are playing at low settings is becoming more and more discussting .
As i said. I will never go back to pc and no one can change my mind as its not about graphics anymore for me its about comfort and ease.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
That is what tech demos are for.
PC gamers get "console games" because majority of people still insists in buying inferior console versions for the same/higher price for whatever reason(s).
Buggy Loop
Member
Doesn't have to be, my 9th gen list is just a list of heavy requirements for little to no eye candies brought to the table. Regardless of engine, just like 8th gen list is almost no UE at all.
The bar has been set so low on performance vs visuals since the massive tsunami of UE4 games. Why would studios invest money in optimization when competition performs like it does? It sells anyway, why polish it?
Even in-house engines are seeing shit performances where it used to be fine for the most part. Capcom's Monster hunter wilds is a joke in performance.
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bundylove
Banned
Yep thats true.That is what tech demos are for.
PC gamers get "console games" because majority of people still insists in buying inferior console versions for the same/higher price for whatever reason(s).
When pc was king ans games were exclusive we had the best time in gaming with classics that till this day were never replicated.
Then came 1994-1995 and everything changed.
Playing virtua cop on windows 95 set the tone for whats to come.
Sure you still have unreal and thief and what not but as time past you got less and less bangers.
ITs a shame as there is no more originality in games so i wont drop thousands to get the best pc only to play a console game at max settings.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Drop 1 thousand for a good enough PC then.
PC gaming is not only console gaming at max settings. It's much more.