Majima Everywhere System
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No, it is not legit. But, we dont need 5G under any circumstances. Burn them towers, boys
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5G scare...is this legit???
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lukilladog
Member
Interesting document on FCC website
electricsense...
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And it didn’t just happen once. From that point on it happened every single time I answered my phone.
It soon got that it was too painful for me to use my cell phone. Then it was my office computer, my TV, the radio in my car , I was even reacting to my landline telephone at one point. I got very sick. If you’d like to hear my full story, including how I’ve experienced complete freedom, click here to discover more…
I now know how dangerous cell phone radiation and electromagnetic fields (EMFs) are. I’ve experienced it first hand.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Interesting document on FCC website
Pranksters take advantage of FCC file-upload comment system
Pranksters have posted a variety of fake messages on the Federal Communication Commission commenting system that have been made to look as if they are rebellious statements coming from within …
thehill.com
LordPezix
Member
Also this:
(5G isn't even on this chart because it doesn't rise up to the level of ionizing radiation)
This is the greatest scientific proof post I've ever seen.
Says right in the picture "If you're basing radiation safety procedures on an internet PNG image and things go wrong, you have no one to blame but yourself"
Also at the bottom of the source link. I waive all copyright to this chart and place it in the public domain, so you are free to reuse it anywhere with no permission necessary. (However, keep in mind that I am not a radiation expert, and this chart is intended for general public informational use only.)
I love the internet, thank you.
lukilladog
Member
Is it wrong though?.
I've studied and worked with many people over the years in electrical engineering, general electronics, communication technologies, broadcast technology, etc and sadly I'm afraid to say, if you're scared of 5G then you're a complete idiot.
PS: Please stop attacking workers setting up GENERAL towers and installing Fibre lines, you fucking numbskulls.
PS: Please stop attacking workers setting up GENERAL towers and installing Fibre lines, you fucking numbskulls.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I'm unclear on what your point is.
The key here is 100kW output power. Most powerful 5g transmitters have like what, 120w output power? Do the math.I do understand from a security and technology perspective 5g seems pointless. I'd rather have infrastructure to get fiber in more places. Use Airfiber where it can be used and finally use edge routers and wifi.
I don't understand millimeter wave technology but I do know the military has this:
Active Denial System - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
"The ADS works by firing a high-powered (100 kW output power)[13] beam of 95 GHz waves at a target, which corresponds to a wavelength of 3.2 mm.[14] The ADS millimeter wave energy works on a similar principle as a microwave oven, exciting the water and fat molecules in the skin, and instantly heating them via dielectric heating. One significant difference is that a microwave oven uses the much lower frequency (and longer wavelength) of 2.45 GHz. The short millimeter waves used in ADS only penetrate the top layers of skin, with most of the energy being absorbed within 0.4 mm (1⁄64 inch),[15] whereas microwaves will penetrate into human tissue about 17 mm (0.67 inch).[16]"
5G - Wikipedia
"High-band 5G uses frequencies of 25 - 39 GHz, near the bottom of the millimeter wave band, to achieve download speeds of 1 - 3 gigabits per second (Gbit/s), comparable to cable internet. However millimeter waves (mmWave or mmW) only have a range of about 1 mile (1.6 km), requiring many small cells, and have trouble passing through some types of building walls."
5G from what I found is running up to 90GHz.
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LordPezix
Member
How would I know? I'm not a radiation expert. Silly question.
I wasn't making one. I thought the chart was comical.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
5G signal is less than 200 meters before it's useless (and that is with nothing in the way, even a single tree can block the signal). Your Bluetooth will kill you much faster with a signal range of 500+ meters (Bluetooth 5) through everything. Your Wifi signal will kill you long before 5G.
F
Foamy
Unconfirmed Member
I too was worried about the potential dangers of 5G but after reading numerous articles I do feel comfortable with the technology. To answer why we need such high speeds, well mostly for autonomous vehicles, drones, A.I. and everything and anything electronic being linked.
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And this relates to my post how exactly?
The person I replied was trying to point out a connection between the frequency used in a weapons system and the 5G frequency. I simply explained that this weapons system has like x830 higher power output than the strongest 5G transmitter.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
The range of ADS is 1,000 meters. Have you experienced the effects of an ADS within 1,000 meters of a 5G transmitter before?
I'm literally telling that 5G has extremely tiny power output in comparison to this ADS. Basically it doesn't have anywhere near the power density to heat anything unlike ADS.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Ah, right. I guess I read something wrong because it sounded like you were arguing the opposite in my head. When I go back further up the reply chain it makes sense.
I'm literally telling that 5G has extremely tiny power output in comparison to this ADS. Basically it doesn't have anywhere near the power density to heat anything unlike ADS.
lukilladog
Member
You can check the sources or references, there is plenty there:
Sievert - Wikipedia
Acute radiation syndrome - Wikipedia
V4skunk
Banned
I do.
5g uses dielectric lens which is the main technology that makes military grade weapons like phased array radars and active denial systems work.
Here is a hardware breakdown that shows the tech and exactly what voltage the system runs at etc...
Edited because wrong link.
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Keihart
Member
Ok then, then please explain why do you think that the frecuency it's so important for the standard? i have read all the documentation from 3gpp about the progress of the standard recently, and frecuency it's hardly a focus of the standard push. In fact it is intended to use 4G frecuencies in some countries in phase 1.
Edit: I'm asking because i only read here comments about the radio component of 5G, when that it's hardly where the innovation is at.
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MetalAlien
Banned
Viable light is in the terahertz range. Nothing 5g will do that could outpower what the sun does to you every day.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
is there a map of 5G towers? like how many are in each state, or the geographical locations? feel like you could compare concentration of towers to Covid-19 infections, if that truly was a link.
have been done this? tho i suppose it would be tough, since there is a lot of desire to underreport and misrepresent facts for politicians all over the world, real numbers would be hard to get. but i think a general comparison survey wouldn't be hard to do.
have been done this? tho i suppose it would be tough, since there is a lot of desire to underreport and misrepresent facts for politicians all over the world, real numbers would be hard to get. but i think a general comparison survey wouldn't be hard to do.
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You seriously think that would convince the nut jobs? Over here they've been torching normal phone/4g towers because they "thought" it was 5g and "could feel the radiation".
V4skunk
Banned
You need to know the difference between a dielectric lens and a normal antenna.
I'm no expert but phased array radars work at 60-300ghz and are millimetre wave length like 5g.
5g tech (dielectric lens) is what makes modern radars (phased array) be able to track objects and 3d map battlefields, including 3d mapping of buildings.
It is common knowledge that the telecom companies want 5g to control autonomous vehicles....
The problem is pointing this shit at people is dangerous and zero research has been done on none ionising radiation above 30ghz.
MetalAlien
Banned
When you get your info from buffoons like the guy in this video...
I stopped watching when he didn't even understood what those "Optical radiation risk groups" mean. I literally choked on my laugh when he said these LEDs are extremely toxic because of those risk group warnings.
Risk group 2 for optical radiation basically means that it might be harmful to eyes if you look at the light source for a prolonged period of time. You obviously stare at the Sun without any protection, right? Or if you are stupid enough, just stare at the light bulb in your room for an hour and tell me how it went for your eyes.
At least he saved me time by demonstrating his idocy during the first 2 minutes.
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Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Ok but, do you sit under the sun 24/7?
Keihart
Member
WTF, aren't dielectric lens what you call the fucking bucket in front of MMOO links? Those are used to focus the signal it has nothing to do with what frecuency you want to irradiate at i think.
BTW, the control of autonomous vehicles will be made possible by lowering the latency , which has nothing to do with the radio component but the control plane and the backhaul.
I can give the benefit of the doubt to some band having harmful long term effect not yet studied, but i have no idea what are you talking about here as proof and relating it somehow with low latency applications?
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MetalAlien
Banned
No but but you are exposed to the sun through out your life. You can't avoid it. Exsposer is dosage vs time. The sun is exposing you to massively higher doses and for much longer than anything 5 g will ever do.
Ultraviolet light coming from the sun for example is in the petahertz range.
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#Phonepunk#
Banned
fyi the US government has a long history of using dangerous materials that are harmful to the public and covering them up. you know about the Flint water issue? this is just one result of malfescance that directly harms the public. then there are instances like the Rocky Flats nuclear accident that sent a cloud of radioactive gas towards the city of Denver, Colorado.
this was in fact the real life inspiration behind the villains of the Simpsons. the public would remain unaware of the incident until someone tested radiation in the soil a decade later. eventually the EPA stepped in and there was in fact a dramatic FBI raid at the plant dubbed Operation Desert Glow in the 1980s.On September 11, 1957, a plutonium fire occurred in one of the gloveboxes used to handle radioactive materials, igniting the combustible rubber gloves and plexiglas windows of the box. Metallic plutonium is a fire hazard and pyrophoric; under the right conditions it may ignite in air at room temperature. The accident resulted in the contamination of Building 771, the release of plutonium into the atmosphere, and caused $818,600 in damage. An incinerator for plutonium-contaminated waste was installed in Building 771 in 1958.
Barrels of radioactive waste were found to be leaking into an open field in 1959. This was not made publicly known until 1970 when wind-borne particles were detected in Denver.
Throughout the 1960s, the plant continued to enlarge and add buildings. The 1960s also brought more contamination to the site. In 1967, 3,500 barrels (560 m3) of plutonium-contaminated lubricants and solvents were stored on Pad 903. A large number of them were found to be leaking, and low-level contaminated soil was becoming wind-borne from this area. This pad was covered with gravel and paved over with asphalt in 1969.
May 11, 1969 saw a major fire in a glovebox in Building 776/777.[18] This was the costliest industrial accident ever to occur in the United States up to that time. Cleanup from the accident took two years and led to safety upgrades on the site, including fire sprinkler systems and firewalls.
Rocky Flats Plant - Wikipedia
eventually the Cold War ended and the need to produce plutonium buttons, products that are used only to make nuclear bombs, declined. the plant was eventually shut down in W's first term, as congress passed a "National Wildlife Refuge Act" which dictated the top 3 feet of soil be measure to a certain level of radiation. they ended up dumping trucks of dirt on top of the site to satisfy that pitiful requirement.
so this place was a hazard for 50 years, which included 10+ following the fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War. it is not beyond imagination that the US government would ever cover up something damaging to the public yet very profitable.
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And what's that got to do with idiots in the UK destroying things that arn't even the things they claim them to be? And then making up lies about said things to justify their dumb borderline special actions.
Jayjayhd34
Gold Member
The one hole in this conspiracy is how fuck do the people implementing 5g are protecting themselves.
I get kicked out of all 5g groups without hesitation for stating this with no answer....
I get kicked out of all 5g groups without hesitation for stating this with no answer....
daveonezero
Banned
not live where the towers are deployed.
V4skunk
Banned
You'll find that he is a ex British Army electronic warfare specialist that is fighting a huge legal battle with the British government and his local council, and just recently was taken to court for a gagging order by his local council of which the judge refused.
Also you are correct about the class 2 optical radiation and the point that was made is that blue led light radiation with out a shroud is class 3 and damaging to your eyes.
You need to try harder.
Yes wtf!
Dielectric lens focuses a beam at you like a laser! Many hundreds are used together in a phased array radar!
It's how the radars are able to detect and track multiple targets at the same time, then because the radar is millimetre wave it can penetrate through things like buildings and people.
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Jayjayhd34
Gold Member
Thats like playing the lottery as these mast are not all made by the same people so they would nessarily know where one is.
Secondly 5g is going liturally be everywhere since they has such a short radius. Its going to be next impossible for anyone to avoid 5g when it's finished rolling out.
These conspiracies since introduction of radio waves, this will die down everyone will use 5g and then 6g will come out everyone will be making conspiraces about 6g on there 5g phones.....
Keihart
Member
do you realize that there are thousand of this distributed over cities and even more so in non urban areas to link together equipment? It's not exactly new
Avasarala
Emoji Emperor
4g antennas run at 20W with an effective range of 2-12 miles, topology dependent.
5g antennas run at .2 - 10W, with an effective range from tens to hundreds of meters.
Frequency != Power.
5g runs at a fraction of total output power of 4g, that's why there are more antennas per square mile.
5g antennas run at .2 - 10W, with an effective range from tens to hundreds of meters.
Frequency != Power.
5g runs at a fraction of total output power of 4g, that's why there are more antennas per square mile.
You do know that the Sun is by far the biggest blue light source? It's basically a group 2. Better not go out then.
And no, it is not group 3 without a shroud. That's another thing he made up. Group 3 are light sources that can cause immidate damage just by momentarily gazing. And as far as I know besides lasers there are no such light sources. Group 2 basically means that as long as you let your body naturally react to staring at such bright light by closing eyes or turning your head away, you will be fine.
Electronic warfare specialist my ass! Probably made up that title to sound smarter amongst his conspiracy friends.
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Reptars Revenge
Member
Lol people. I think you mean lizard people
V4skunk
Banned
You know absolutely zero. The sun also blinds you and gives you cancer.
A 5 second censored google search also brings up these facts.
Blue light emitted by smartphones and laptops accelerates blindness by making a molecule in our eyes toxic, according to a new study
Blue light in our digital devices transforms molecules in the eye's retina into cell killers, according to a new study. Exposing blue light to cells triggers reactions that generate poisonous chemical molecules in photoreceptor cells, the researchers found.
www.businessinsider.com
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Faenrir
Member
Are you sure they really have headeaches, though, and are not pretending to be sick to avoid school ? Lots of kids play sick to avoid school xD
Using a phone as hotspot to dl 100+Gb games is something that would be vastly improved
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This is worthy to be moved to Clown World thread.You know absolutely zero. The sun also blinds you and gives you cancer.
A 5 second censored google search also brings up these facts.
Blue light emitted by smartphones and laptops accelerates blindness by making a molecule in our eyes toxic, according to a new study
Blue light in our digital devices transforms molecules in the eye's retina into cell killers, according to a new study. Exposing blue light to cells triggers reactions that generate poisonous chemical molecules in photoreceptor cells, the researchers found.
Imagine thinking that I don't know that excessive blue light over years can degrade vision.
That's why you don't stare at light sources or spend overly long hours staring at screens (especially in dark). What the fuck are you trying to argue here? That LEDs are dangerous if you stare at them like a moron? No shit, Sherlock! That idiot in the video thinks that government is out there to get him with their toxic LED lamps on streets. What kind of lamps do you propose to put on streets? The invisible ones? Afterall the visible light consists of "toxic" blue light.I guess you and that moron in the video are both living in a cave to hide from all the toxic blue light coming from the Sun, LED lamps, screens etc.
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V4skunk
Banned
Try harder.Imagine thinking that I don't know that excessive blue light over years can degrade vision.
I guess you and that moron in the video are both living in a cave to hide from all the toxic blue light coming from the Sun, LED lamps, screens etc.
Hulk_Smash
Banned
I do actually know a person who had that and it was not a scam. Imagine living in Florida with the only AC you have is whatever blows from your neighbor’s connected condo. The only silver lining is that she didn’t have any children so not a lot of reason to venture out and visit family or other activities.