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7 Things 360 Does Better

jedimike said:
Bullshit. There is no lag.
:lol

You can not be serious?

Oh wait, you are one of those gamers with a washed brain who thinks MS can do not wrong.

All wireless devices have lag. EVERY single one of them. The 360 pad is no exception.
 
Kon Tiki said:
All wireless devices have lag. EVERY single one of them. The 360 pad is no exception.

Technically maybe, but not that you can feel. Sorry, you must be one of those to find fault where there is none, huh?
 
krypt0nian said:
Technically maybe, but not that you can feel. Sorry, you must be one of those to find fault where there is none, huh?
If by 'none' you mean 'no response' when I press a button. Yes, I am one of those people. Happens in every game, and yes my batteries are fully charges.
 
Kon Tiki said:
If by 'none' you mean 'no response' when I press a button. Yes, I am one of those people. Happens in every game, and yes my batteries are fully charges.

I'd return that controller. Its on your end.

I can link to review after review if you'd like...

I'm not saying you should spend your $400 right now on an Xbox 360. And I'm not saying I forgive Microsoft or Edelman for ignoring us haughty leeches here in the media capital of the world. What I am saying is that the Xbox 360 is worth $400. Its specs are impressive (512 megs of memory, a 3-core CPU, an ATI 500 MHz processor, HD, infrared ports, a 20 gigabyte hard drive, a remote control, USB ports to play almost any media—even from the Sony PSP, a revamped online gaming hub, and a wireless controller with no lag time).

http://www.villagevoice.com/screens/0548,goldberg,70599,28.html

99 reviews on ebgames.com and not one mentions any lag, in fact 5-6 mention zero lag and being surprised about it.
 
krypt0nian said:
Technically maybe, but not that you can feel. Sorry, you must be one of those to find fault where there is none, huh?

That subject was discussed before in this thread, and there appear to be people out there who can feel a difference between the wired and wireless X360 controllers. Might want to cut the guy a little slack here.
 
Kon Tiki said:
:lol

You can not be serious?

Oh wait, you are one of those gamers with a washed brain who thinks MS can do not wrong.

All wireless devices have lag. EVERY single one of them. The 360 pad is no exception.

Technically wired and wireless devices have lag... the inherent problem with wireless is interference, not speed. For example, ping your router from a wireless device and then ping from a wired device. My wireless laptop comes in at 2ms, same as my wired desktop.

As long as you aren't running a microwave oven in between your controller and your 360, you will never see a difference between your wired or wireless controller.
 
Tellaerin said:
That subject was discussed before in this thread, and there appear to be people out there who can feel a difference between the wired and wireless X360 controllers. Might want to cut the guy a little slack here.


Some people see rainbow shimmers in plasma screens too. Nothing to do with the screens either.

"but the lag is worse than wavebird" - then you'd think one review would have mentioned that?

Sorry no slack here. Its on him to prove otherwise now.
 
krypt0nian said:
Some people see rainbow shimmers in plasma screens too. Nothing to do with the screens either.

Just like some people can't see the difference between 30 and 60 FPS. Does that mean the difference doesn't exist?

(Edit: Dammit, stop editing after I reply, krypt0nian. It makes it look like I'm selectively quoting your posts when I'm not. :p)

As for the 'worse than Wavebird' thing, I think that's subjective on his part. My point was that you shouldn't casually write off anybody who says they can feel a difference between wired and wireless. Some people can.
 
Tellaerin said:
Just like some people can't see the difference between 30 and 60 FPS. Does that mean the difference doesn't exist?

He's saying its worse than the wavebird. He should put up or shut up, correct? Its that simple. Not one review mentions any lag.

Kon Tiki said:
If by 'none' you mean 'no response' when I press a button.

No response would be noticed by everyone.
 
jedimike said:
from the article...



Undisputable.


Omg..are there peple actually defending this article?

For one, I refuse to take this crap seriously. My post was just a light hearted joke.

Secondly, explain to me why you feel the need to compare 360 to last gens systems?

Some of you take these things to seriously.
 
BudokaiMR2 said:
Omg..are there peple actually defending this article?

For one, I refuse to take this crap seriously. My post was just a light hearted joke.

Secondly, explain to me why you feel the need to compare 360 to last gens systems?

Some of you take these things to seriously.

If you don't like the article, fine... but give some valid arguments as to why. I don't think the article is some masterful piece of work, but at the same time, there is nothing within the article that makes it false. They are exactly what the author claims...

"Seven Things That the Xbox 360 Does Better Than Anyone Else"

Tellaerin said:
As for the 'worse than Wavebird' thing, I think that's subjective on his part. My point was that you shouldn't casually write off anybody who says they can feel a difference between wired and wireless. Some people can.

Anyone who does feel a difference has an intereference problem. The "speed" is the same. As illustrated above, the delay speed is about .000002 seconds. I think we can all agree that is not perceptable. However, if the 2.4Ghz frequency is getting hammered by a similar 2.4Ghz signal, then your going to have problems.

Saying a Wavebird is faster than the 360 is just incorrect.
 
They are comparing a next gen system to this current gen's systems. That just seems silly to me. I see no point, and the arguments have no basis. You can't compare the 360's features to the PS2 features. That is just damn retarded.
 
krypt0nian said:
He's saying its worse than the wavebird. He should put up or shut up, correct? Its that simple. Not one review mentions any lag.

Then again, you also have to ask yourself how many reviewers ever had reason to use both. If all they ever used were the standard wireless controllers (which most people seem to prefer), it's not exactly like they would have any grounds for comparison, would they?

Maybe you and Jedimike don't feel any difference in response time between wired and wireless controllers, and that's fine. It's a problem that exists in varying degrees for all wireless devices, though, so what's the big deal? You guys are acting like he just slandered the honor of your woman and you want to challenge him to pistols at twenty paces or something. Relax already.
 
BudokaiMR2 said:
They are comparing a next gen system to this current gen's systems. That just seems silly to me. I see no point, and the arguments have no basis. You can't compare the 360's features to the PS2 features. That is just damn retarded.

Point taken. If they wated to highlight some of the features of 360, they shouldn't have done the better than thing. They seem pretty impartial though and I'm sure they'll do a "PS3" and "Revolution is better because" article as well.
 
Kon Tiki said:
Well it is a overall better pad than the wavebird, but the lag is worse than wavebird.

:lol

What? How the hell did you come to this conclusion? I own both controllers and they both perform equally well.

I know this is GAF, the land of insane hatred of everything Xbox 360, but come back to reality here. There is no difference between the two when it comes to lag.
 
jedimike said:
Point taken. If they wated to highlight some of the features of 360, they shouldn't have done the better than thing. They seem pretty impartial though and I'm sure they'll do a "PS3" and "Revolution is better because" article as well.

Well we've all seen how the PS3 "Spring" release was just a ruse. As I said earlier, I started with the "11 Mistakes of the Xbox 360" -- then we were told that we were unfairly negative against the 360, so I said "well, let me figure out what I really like about the Xbox 360.

We'll definitely do the PS3 and Revolution once it's out. Once all three are out, we'll probably do the technical comparison between Xenon GPU, RSX, and the Rev GPU.
 
jedimike said:
As long as you aren't running a microwave oven in between your controller and your 360

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Ahem... ;)
 
Wireless lag exists. You people calling bullshit have it good. I fucking wish I couldn't notice it. I replaced my Cube controllers with Wavebirds--all of them. Later on, I realized the Wavebird is not suitable for Smash Bros, nor for Monkey Ball. But it's a tiny, tiny lag and in most games you'd never notice, because most games don't require that level of precision.

I've not noticed any lag from my X360 controller. It's the best controller around based on button layout and responsiveness, easily.

But that doesn't mean it has the best wireless implementation. I dislike several things about it. I find it really irritating that the controller powers on (and off) so slowly, and I don't like it turning off by itself, either. And I really, really hate that the controllers aren't assignable as Controller 1 and Controller 2, permanently (if I'm wrong, I'll be really happy, so let me know).
 
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