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[Funky Papa]

Stolen from SE.

http://www.glasnost.de/hist/usa/1935invasion.html

In 1934, War Plan Red was amended to authorize the immediate first use of poison gas against Canadians and to use strategic bombing to destroy Halifax if it could not be captured.

It could be an ancient wargame exposed or a real plan crushed by WWII, let your bias decide Interesting stuff anyway.

 

[Shinobi]

Goddamn yanks...they've never changed. Guess they were still bitter about what we did to the White House. :lol

 

[Saturnman]

F*ck America.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Hehe. My city is one of the main points of attack/entry.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

I didn't know there was a big push by our military to take out the great northern threat in 1935. Why the hell would we ever need to invade Canada, just in case it caught communist fever from Russia or something?

Did we really need this much of a contingency plan?

 

[Saturnman]

The US would be more secure if Canada was under their control.

The US was also suffering from the great depression. If you can't jumpstart your economy, plundering a neighbouring nation might do the trick.

f*ck them in any case.

 

[G4life98]

um why is this surprising we probably developed plans like that for every major nation on eath, even our freinds.

 

[Saturnman]

It's not surprising to Canadians really. There was a mini controversy here when the US started closing bases at home and abroad in the early nineties, save for those near the Canadian border. That raised some eyebrows in Canada.

 

[Shogmaster]

 

[impirius]

um why is this surprising we probably developed plans like that for every major nation on eath, even our freinds.

Yeah, stuff like this is interesting, but plans existed for a large number of implausible scenarios; there's no reason to take this personally.

 

[G4life98]

Yeah, stuff like this is interesting, but plans existed for a large number of implausible scenarios; there's no reason to take this personally.

i wonder if there is an alien invasion plan

 

[Saturnman]

lol, I wonder how an old French plan of a (nuclear) pre-emptive strike on American soil would be received in the US.

 

[impirius]

i wonder if there is an alien invasion plan

Fend them off until the sequel!

lol, I wonder how an old French plan of a (nuclear) pre-emptive strike on American soil would be received in the US.

Ha, that'd be amusing... I'm sure all the usual suspects (O'Reilly, etc.) would be up in arms about it.

 

[AntoneM]

It's not surprising to Canadians really. There was a mini controversy here when the US started closing bases at home and abroad in the early nineties, save for those near the Canadian border. That raised some eyebrows in Canada.

shouldn't it be obvlious as to why those were left open... it puts our bombers that much closer to Russia.

 

[Saturnman]

shouldn't it be obvlious as to why those were left open... it puts our bombers that much closer to Russia.

Put them all in Alaska then...

 

[rs7k]

That would have been like 1812 all over again. Britain would have come to our help and crushed those damned Yanks.

 

[Screaming_Gremlin]

Put them all in Alaska then...

I'm just guessing, so it could be entirely wrong, but if they put the bases in Alaska they may not have time to launch the bombers after detecting a missile launch. When the bases are located within the continental U.S. it takes that much longer for an ICBM to get there giving more time for planes to takeoff.

 

[Saturnman]

The US had missiles and military bases in West Germany and Turkey (before the compromize in the Cuban missile crisis aftermath) pointed at the SU. The closer your strike force is to the 'evil empire', the better.

It's good to have a fallback plan and bases farther and more protected, just in case, but that wouldn't explain why they needed to be at the border specifically (if being farther is an advantage) or why they remained open after the Cold War, where dozens of other bases to fight the Soviets were closed.

If the roles were reversed, this would be considered hostile by the US.

 

[ArcadeStickMonk]

Put them all in Alaska then...

My dad was in an airforce base in Alaska. Not during the 30's but during the late 50's and 60's. He was an aircraft mechanic and has told me of the bombers he serviced that routinely flew patrols with nuclear payloads; just in case, I guess.

 

[Phoenix]

i wonder if there is an alien invasion plan

Actually yes there is. There are plans in place for pretty much every conceivable scenario. There are think tanks in the country whose whole job is to take care of this. One of the projects I worked on 'back in the day' was for battlefield planning. Plans are made just for the sake of having them. You don't want to have to say 'invade Canada' and then try and figure out how you'd even do it.

 

[AntoneM]

The US had missiles and military bases in West Germany and Turkey (before the compromize in the Cuban missile crisis aftermath) pointed at the SU. The closer your strike force is to the 'evil empire', the better.

It's good to have a fallback plan and bases farther and more protected, just in case, but that wouldn't explain why they needed to be at the border specifically (if being farther is an advantage) or why they remained open after the Cold War, where dozens of other bases to fight the Soviets were closed.

If the roles were reversed, this would be considered hostile by the US.

they remain open because Russia still has a lot of weapons and theoretically could muster the 2nd or 3rd most powerful military in the world. As for moving them to Alaska, the reason they were shutting down bases to begin with was to save money, not spend more to re-locate them. Lastly at least for the 2 bases in North Dakota, they stayed open because out side of a base in Alaska those 2 bases are the closest air bases the US has to Russia inside US borders.

 

[Dilbert]

I learned so much about Canadian geography from that war plan, and it stoked my desire to visit!

I hope there is a Canadian geography quiz like the United States one shown on the board yesterday.

 

[Saturnman]

Close the ones closer to the North East border, the ones farther away from Russia. There's nothing to invade North of North Dokota (though BC and Alberta in the West has grown significantly since 1935). That's not the issue and it wasn't in the original transcript either. It's all about striking the industrial base of the center and the ports in the East.

 

[AntoneM]

Close the ones closer to the North East border, the ones farther away from Russia. There's nothing to invade North of North Dokota (though BC and Alberta in the West has grown significantly since 1935). That's not the issue and it wasn't in the original transcript either. It's all about striking the industrial base of the center and the ports in the East.

Indeed the article is about that, but we got onto the topic of bases near the Canadian border. Crazy thing about conversations, they like to go off on tangents, eh.

 

[Saturnman]

Will you be here 50 years from now when the 1991 (or something) invasion plan of Canada is revealed?

I'm pretty sure it got updated in 1995 when Canada was close to breaking up. I just have a hunch about it.

 

[StoOgE]

Good.. Im running low on Ice. We can get more by invading canada.

 

[impirius]

Good.. Im running low on Ice. We can get more by invading canada.

We should just send in a team of agents to find and recover the secret recipe.

 

[LinesInTheSand]

lol, I wonder how an old French plan of a (nuclear) pre-emptive strike on American soil would be received in the US.

It would be alarming initially... Once the plan was actually opened and looked at we would see that it was nothing more than one page explaining the best way to surrender. :lol

 

[Boogie9IGN]

Invade Canada

I'm pretty sure it got updated in 1995 when Canada was close to breaking up. I just have a hunch about it.

Please educate me on this!

 

[Boogie]

Invade Canada



Please educate me on this!

Quebec had a referendum on whether to separate from Canada in 1995. They narrowly voted no.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Invade Canada



Please educate me on this!

They stole our basketball teams
Since when does the "N.B.A." stand for "Canadians Can Play Too". We need to get Vancouver and Toronto annexed into America to preserve the "N".

You stole the sport in the first place.

 

[KilledByBill]

Heh, bullshit like this is the end result of our nation's gov. being slowly strangled by the military-industrial complex. Eventually, our bloated military needs to do something to justify it's unecessary exsistence. An invasion of Canada in the 1930's would be the equivalent of our invasion of Iraq in the present.

EDIT:

We're all living in Amerika
Amerika ist wunderbar
We're all living in Amerika
Amerika
Amerika

Coca Cola
Sometimes war

 

[FrenchMovieTheme]

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[NLB2]

i wonder if there is an alien invasion plan

There's not its already too late. You've been fooled by the Grand Deception

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

the USA is like batman, a contingency plan to take down every friend if they ever go "rogue" or something......

 

[GaimeGuy]

Goddamn yanks...they've never changed. Guess they were still bitter about what we did to the White House. :lol

Hey, we might have burned down Toronto, but that didn't give you any right to burn down Washinton.

Ah, history

 

[ConfusingJazz]

My dad was in an airforce base in Alaska. Not during the 30's but during the late 50's and 60's. He was an aircraft mechanic and has told me of the bombers he serviced that routinely flew patrols with nuclear payloads; just in case, I guess.

That would probably be The Strategic Air Command, which bascially flew nonstop until the 70s over the northern border of the USSR. They are the basis for the movie Dr Strangelove.