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A black man went undercover online as a white supremacist. This is what he learned
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Taco_Human
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Posting in this to find this later after work. Really interesting stuff. Sad to hear how dumb the people are and why they justify their racism.
Frozenprince
Banned
On topic yeah, nothing all that revelatory here sadly.
sturgboski
Member
Thank God we have a terrorist organization running this country ensuring these same people never get proper education as they work to bring education levels lower and lower to ensure this organization keeps it's power.
Darryl M R
Member
Nothing new to be honest.
But it's always so interesting to see a bunch of bigots get mentally played by misinformation and hate while claiming that they are superior.
People with low IQ, EQ, and confidence are fond of bigotry because it helps them live through their miserable life day in and day out. I know some successful and well traveled people that joke about geotagging their vacation and lifestyle in places known for their racist populations (like a small town that made sure to talk down on BLM)--I don't have the energy but I laugh along since the punchline is that seeing a person of color enjoying a better life would make them incredibly upset.
But it's always so interesting to see a bunch of bigots get mentally played by misinformation and hate while claiming that they are superior.
People with low IQ, EQ, and confidence are fond of bigotry because it helps them live through their miserable life day in and day out. I know some successful and well traveled people that joke about geotagging their vacation and lifestyle in places known for their racist populations (like a small town that made sure to talk down on BLM)--I don't have the energy but I laugh along since the punchline is that seeing a person of color enjoying a better life would make them incredibly upset.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
I appreciate more in depth looks into racism like this because they can help inch moderates along.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
That seemed like a monumental waste of time just to find out how fucked up humanity is to become incredibly depressed and void of hope.
Welcome to the club!
Welcome to the club!
I actually wanna push back against statements like this as I find it bit reductionist and adds nothing here. Racism is a system that's willfully perpetuated and racist are socially programmed to be racist.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Or they could just be fucking waste of space and life, bigoted idiots man.
There doesn't have to always be a higher cause or reasoning behind dipshit fascists and what they do.
Yeah, it's not like it's hard to find these racists. They're on youtube comments, news comments sections, various forums etc.
It's sometimes hard not to see the racist shit they say.
Sunset Samurai
Member
I'm a Canuck but I am a firm believer the most important issue in America is eduction. It's a tough hill to climb, I can't believe the movement in the US against being educated.
This is a TEDx talk, not a TED talk.
https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-TED-and-TEDx
On topic yeah, nothing all that revelatory here sadly.
Even 10+ years later classic Chappelle skits still make me laugh. God bless that man.
I don't understand the Soros conspiracy. Is that an Alex Jones thing? It seems like something he'd come up with.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
No, the point of alt-right is that they are upfront about their bigotry, while the regular right still loves dog whistles and double talk.
the bold doesn't run counter to my post. I'm saying as the man himself said that there's still underlying social issues were not addressing that are at the worst breeding and radicalizing these racist. Saying "well these guys are just ignorant pieces of shit" is not at all insightful to what was raised there.
The Jazz Cabbage Master
Member
That is 100% a choice to look at humanity like that. Have fun in the shit world view club...
I thought it was going to be more about the insight in the specific tactics of groups like Stormfront. The reason a lot of the alt-right sounds the same is because they use coded language to infiltrate areas that are not explicitly Neo-Nazi, and the dog whistles allow them to find people from those places to groom into their community.
There's a whole informal operation there to create a pipeline to VOAT and Stormfront from places like 4Chan and Reddit (or during the height of gamergate, any gamer-friendly space).
There's a whole informal operation there to create a pipeline to VOAT and Stormfront from places like 4Chan and Reddit (or during the height of gamergate, any gamer-friendly space).
Nothing new or revelatory here, but it's still an interesting, if depressing read.
The image of the elderly out of touch white man screaming at the nigras on his lawn have been disproven ages ago. This hate is from young, privileged, and entitled people who, despite an era in which the knowledge of the entire earth is literally in the palm of our hands thanks to cell phones, or the click of a few keys at our computers/laptops, still wallow in ignorance. And are proud of it, to boot.
Personally, I no longer find it in me to feel compassion/empathy for that level of ignorance. There's no excuse for it. These people literally see me as sub-human. They don't see me as a part of their species at all. The days of extending an olive branch for a "teaching moment" are long behind me. If they can't find it in themselves to do the google-fu necessary to come to the conclusion that, yes, black people and other marginalized minorities are deserving of basic human rights, then I don't know what I can tell them that will suddenly make them see the light.
I used to engage all of the time. Try to guide them to reason. It always fell on deaf ears, and I ran out of patience. Shrugs. I don't even feel bad for feeling this way anymore. There's only so many times I can yell at the top of my lungs "I'm a human being too!" before I lose my voice. It feels like black people will never be given that same benefit of the doubt/compassion that we're expected to give to those that refuse to see us as people.
It's no surprise that police can walk after executing us in the streets. In the minds of our "peers," they just put down a rabid animal, not a man or woman.
The image of the elderly out of touch white man screaming at the nigras on his lawn have been disproven ages ago. This hate is from young, privileged, and entitled people who, despite an era in which the knowledge of the entire earth is literally in the palm of our hands thanks to cell phones, or the click of a few keys at our computers/laptops, still wallow in ignorance. And are proud of it, to boot.
Personally, I no longer find it in me to feel compassion/empathy for that level of ignorance. There's no excuse for it. These people literally see me as sub-human. They don't see me as a part of their species at all. The days of extending an olive branch for a "teaching moment" are long behind me. If they can't find it in themselves to do the google-fu necessary to come to the conclusion that, yes, black people and other marginalized minorities are deserving of basic human rights, then I don't know what I can tell them that will suddenly make them see the light.
I used to engage all of the time. Try to guide them to reason. It always fell on deaf ears, and I ran out of patience. Shrugs. I don't even feel bad for feeling this way anymore. There's only so many times I can yell at the top of my lungs "I'm a human being too!" before I lose my voice. It feels like black people will never be given that same benefit of the doubt/compassion that we're expected to give to those that refuse to see us as people.
It's no surprise that police can walk after executing us in the streets. In the minds of our "peers," they just put down a rabid animal, not a man or woman.
Puck Beaverton
Banned
I mean, people are both the best and the worst.
Lucky Forward
Member
Those guys must be easy to fool, years ago there was a black police police investigator who was so good at fooling the Klan over the phone they offered him a leadership position:
Black sergeant was 'loyal Klansman'
Black sergeant was 'loyal Klansman'
It still hits me hard that not only in my generation, but in 2017 there is still a huge presence of this type of hate in the United States. I didn't even realize how big this was until a few years after gamer gate when people on the internet started siding with this movement. I never thought they would gather though in real life and start protest either until Charlottesville. Sadly, I don't think this is the end and I am worried about the future of the country with this resurgence of thought and action.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
I had pie for my birthday at the village inn and there were not one but at least two vehicles with Confederate flags, the people that owned the vehicles also had KKK tattoos. The second one was a huge oversized truck that looked like it destroyed part of the Ozone everytime it fired up, and the couple that drove it were literally caricatures for fat, white, rural Americans.
They also lost their shit and interrupted my conversation with my mother about the state of the united states and the fact that these idiots and their dear leader were leading us into A;A world war B: A thermonuclear war C: civil War or D: all of the above and more because it's the russian planted donald fucking trump administration shitshow.
You can't escape this shit because most people don't want to admit how much the Internet, specifically places like the chan sites and reddit, have fostered and championed the causes of white supremacy, nazism, pedophilia, and dangerous anarchy like tendencies. Most people don't realize 4chan has been around since 2003 or 4. In that time they've done untold amounts of damage and drastically helped normalize all of this shit.
When people don't care about fact, and fact is now simply opinion or outright falsehood, when people choose the language of the fascists, or choose nothing except maybe anarchy, this is what happens. When you start the Orwellian machine it doesn't just stop.
I tried to tell people when I was younger but no one listened and yet, here we are.
I think this is an interesting point. It help explain why they advocate political violence; they've built up their perceived enemies as untouchable by any other means.
Dude Abides
Banned
It is all about blame
No woman wants me= Damn feminests
I am not where i am at in my career= Damn minorities
Nothing really new, just the package
Sam Harris
Jeff sessions
No woman wants me= Damn feminests
I am not where i am at in my career= Damn minorities
Nothing really new, just the package
Sam Harris
Jeff sessions
Captain Tuttle
Member
On topic yeah, nothing all that revelatory here sadly.
This is the greatest, most relevant and important comedy bit ever written.
You can not be properly educated and racist. That is like saying I understand math but I believe 1+1=3.
Dude Abides
Banned
No true racist puts sugar on his porridge.
Racism is a lot more complicated than being exposed to the "proper" learning.
You sure can. Hate is emotional, not logical. I know plenty of people that know there's no genetic reason to feel superior over another... But they choose to act that way because they enjoy lording privilege over another.
So like Forbes Contributors, basically.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
A choice based in fact, is more than just a choice. It is acknowledgement.
That doesn't mean a goddamned thing because of the amount of stupidity and cognitive dissonance required to be a hateful piece of shit that blames your problems on minorities is so far and away from being intellectual.
Goddamn, I swear the centrist crowd shows up every time "w-wait just give them a chance!"
No because when you give them a chance, an innocent girl dies, a man is beaten to death with no one charged, another man is practically lynched(beaten nearly to death) on video with no one caught.
When you "give them a chance" Kaiser Wilhelm leads his country to a future that will horrify the world several times over.
When people gave Hitler a chance, he killed so many fucking people.
People gave Trump a chance, and now we're completely fucked.
You don't give fascists a platform, you don't give them a chance for anything.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
You don't have to go undercover to find out this shit.
Raven117
Member
It always comes down to this.
There is something inherit to the human condition that constantly is trying to shift responsibilities on to something else. All major human institutions do this to some extent. Religion, government, demigods, sex, race, etc...the list goes on and on. Im not saying one is justified over another. It just means that all humans are susceptible to the message.
Vicetrailia
Banned
That and in this competitive world people love feeling superior to others.
I hate to break it to but these people are not properly educated, they are in fact ignorant. Also being educated has fuck all to do with exposure to "proper" learning.
Yeah, that's close to how much weight I give TEDx talks.
katsubento
Member
First thing that came to mind.
Second thing that popped into my head.
Honestly the guy seems naive... We had humans walk on the moon, several nations send probes to the moon and even mars, have a space station showing 4K footage from space, and people still believe the earth is flat.
You don't need to go undercover, nor should you be surprised a new generation of nationalism has existed. If it isn't race, humans segregate themselves around religion, language, food, culture, hell even skin darkness even if you are the same 'race'.
Couple our tribalist nature with the increased echo chambers of communities that rarely get permeated by outside sources and you see how it forms.