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[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

Concept art, repeating word vomit about what they're going to do all the while not showing what they have done. Technical testing and feedback are all assumptions of what is to be done when making a game. Who cares what is to be said about it at length.

It just rubs the wrong way. Let the game speak for itself. I know that comes with streaming and flighting but stating get it early and still be this late in the game etc. Just as I suspected, it's not shaping the game, it's just testing. They're not changing shit about maps, geo, designs, modes the community may have in mind or core mechanics of what they've actually made. It's a hardware, engine and network test at best.

Screenshots look real good, more of that. Release some 4K downable footage instead of flighting streams with shitty bit rates. Do yourself a favour 343 and show the game the best way possible.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

They may change some minor things but chances of this preview producing large-scale changes IMO went out the window when they still refused to give a date at E3 (preferably "right now"), it's just too close to full release at this point... assuming it still comes out this year of course.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Yep. So at this point it's hold on tight and hope for the best lol.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Ya know, the bot stuff reminds me a lot of Gears 4/5. Hell, that mode where you have a human team playing against AI is pretty much directly lifted from their Co-op vs AI mode. I wonder if they're using some of the same tech, I believe Coalition was reported to be helping with this game so it'd make sense. The bots in those games are no joke, especially on higher difficulty they can feel even harder than real players.

 

[cormack12]

How the fuck do REQS work in Halo 5 multiplayer? I can't get my head round them. I'm only like level 9 but at the end of each game I get like packs and see about 30 cards. Where the fuck do they go? I browse through my loadouts, weapons etc and maybe one thing gets added. Where do things like my needlers go? Why can I choose a BR Long and BR from my assault rifle tab but I don't have any other options?

Cofused as fuck, mainly playing Warzone

 

[Deputy Moonman]

How the fuck do REQS work in Halo 5 multiplayer? I can't get my head round them. I'm only like level 9 but at the end of each game I get like packs and see about 30 cards. Where the fuck do they go? I browse through my loadouts, weapons etc and maybe one thing gets added. Where do things like my needlers go? Why can I choose a BR Long and BR from my assault rifle tab but I don't have any other options?

Cofused as fuck, mainly playing Warzone

Oh gosh I haven't played Halo 5 in a while but I do remember reqs really confusing me too when I first started playing warzone. So you have certain weapons that you can opt to make your default load out weapon once you unlock it (no additional req cards of that weapon needed), but there are other weapons that you have to have available req cards to use like the needler. But you'll also notice all the different reqs have a required level to use. From the beginning of a warzone match to the end you'll level up based on kills and what not. Everyone starts at level 1 and then move up based on performance and team completed objectives. I think a needler is level 2 and the BR is level 3 but I can't remember for sure. By the end of a warzone map you may hit level 10 or whatever the max level is and be able to use the highest level req cards (legendaries if you have any).

So at the very beginning of a warzone match I don't think you can opt to use your needler req cards right away. Have to get to level 2 first. Once you hit level 2 you can go to a req station on the map and switch out weapons if you have the req cards available. Or after you die and before you respawn you can quickly choose a req card like the needler to use.
That was probably the worst explanation.

I just remember you have to have the req unlocked. If not a default weapon you have to have available req cards. And you have to reach the needed req card level during a match before it can be used.

If you just want to try and unlock more loadouts you can sell back all the cards you get to buy new packs and another chance at unlocking something new.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

REQ stations on the WZ map, the green dots at the bottom add up to each REQ level as the game goes on and you get kills etc. You unlock them as a an overall progress in your UI when not in a game and then use and use again as you earn points in game. The menu in game at the station unlocks cards to select as the levels unlock.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

The whole req system was garbage. I'm so, so glad they seem to have thrown it in the trash where it belongs for Infinite.

Even if they wanted to do it again, I doubt they would've been able to after the whole Battlefront 2 fiasco.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

I was perusing Klobrille's twitter and saw his quick summary on the latest Insider update. I guess I missed the part in the update that mentioned it could potentially go live next weekend? Now i need to go back and re-read lol.


HiddenXperia also:




Edit: lol i'm bad at this. I didn't realize technical preview was being used instead of calling it a beta or flighting.

"That said, we’ve been given the okay to say our first Bot-focused technical preview could happen as soon as next weekend. Prior to the flight starting, we’re planning a live stream where we’ll dive into the actual build and walk through nearly every facet of the technical preview. Stay tuned."

 

[Deputy Moonman]

We got bumped to the 2nd page again.

However....

EDIT: I just got the email saying that I was accepted for the July 29-Aug 1 technical preview. Woohoo!

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Ugh no email yet. Fuuu...

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Ugh no email yet. Fuuu...

I'm hoping everyone gets in. Would make more sense for testing server load.

 

[h00ters]

Got my email to say I'm in for the flight this weekend. Noiceeee.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

 

[LQX]

Nice! Got in.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

That tenure thing is bullshit. I've been in the program literally since it started (have done every flight too) and didn't get in. :/

 

[Deputy Moonman]

That tenure thing is bullshit. I've been in the program literally since it started (have done every flight too) and didn't get in. :/

I feel like it has to be pretty random. Unless they keep a database of all past participants and their involvement, which I doubt. There is still time. Hopefully something comes through.

 

[Havoc2049]

I'm in the tech flight as well... Woot!

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

I feel like it has to be pretty random. Unless they keep a database of all past participants and their involvement, which I doubt. There is still time. Hopefully something comes through.

Even if I don't get in the first test I'm still glad there will finally be lots of gameplay soon. That's the main thing I've wanted since E3.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Oh barf I'm totally not paying attention. 1 hour late lol.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

I still feel 50/50 on this game. Half of what I'm seeing I like, and half of what I'm seeing I don't.

TTK looks really fast, especially for the needler, not sure about that.

Assassinations not being in at launch just makes me worried what else isn't gonna be there.

The UI is better than Halo 5's abhorrent mess but I still feel like Reach is the best.

The game has a shitload of options which I appreciate, especially the FOV.

I feel like in general the game is still a little cluttered. Stuff popping up during gameplay, menu items, there being like 3 multiplayer announcers at once... it's a little much.

We'll see.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

I still feel 50/50 on this game. Half of what I'm seeing I like, and half of what I'm seeing I don't.

TTK looks really fast, especially for the needler, not sure about that.

Assassinations not being in at launch just makes me worried what else isn't gonna be there.

The UI is better than Halo 5's abhorrent mess but I still feel like Reach is the best.

The game has a shitload of options which I appreciate, especially the FOV.

I feel like in general the game is still a little cluttered. Stuff popping up during gameplay, menu items, there being like 3 multiplayer announcers at once... it's a little much.

We'll see.

Yeah. I have mixed feelings too. I think if 343 wanted Halo to be classic they should have gone all in on being classic and removed sprint among other things. Instead, I believe they removed a few things from Halo 5 and that's about it. And I feel like I enjoyed Halo 5 more because they complimented the new stuff with a bunch of other new stuff. It definitely wasn't classic halo but it was fun. Now we might get a neutered version that doesn't feel like either and isn't as fun. i'm probably being a bit dramatic, but hoping I'm wrong.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

Like I posted in the other thread, stealth is out the window. The flag even glows as well (from multiplayer reveal vid). Map looks good, bots look good, settings look great but no ping system, no BTB, no objective, no splitscreen.

I swear 343 are keen on showing the barebones of what they have. Why?

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Like I posted in the other thread, stealth is out the window. The flag even glows as well (from multiplayer reveal vid). Map looks good, bots look good, settings look great but no ping system, no BTB, no objective, no splitscreen.

I swear 343 are keen on showing the barebones of what they have. Why?

I believe they are doing multiple technical previews and this first one is limited to bots. I'm not sure how many or how often they will become available, but hopefully we get to see more than this first flight.

 

[Havoc2049]

I hope they don't have bots in traditional Halo PVP matches, as I hate when games do that. It's such a let down when you look at the end of game stats and find out that majority of your kills came against bots.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Well, this is fucking lame.

I dunno, for what's supposed to be the system with the most customization ever, it's sure looking more and more limited every time a piece of info about it comes out...

 

[Havoc2049]

Nice to have Joe back in the mix.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

I got the email a little bit ago.

 

[Havoc2049]

Oh man, my fav Halo weapon, the DMR didn't make the Infinite cut. RIP DMR.... RIP, friend

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Has anyone played the technical preview? I could never get in. Just stayed on pending forever lol.

Also possible it is referring to specific campaign levels but I would be down for additional campaigns to be added.

 

[Havoc2049]

I got in for a little this morning. I played two matches and checked out the store and the Spartan customization.

As for gameplay, you were right a few posts back, it plays and fells just like Halo 5, but without the Halo 5 Spartan abilities, which is fine.

The customization is really cool and looks slick in its presentation.

The store reminds me of the Sea of Thieves store, which is a good thing. Pretty bare bones with mainly cosmetics and a Season Pass for sale. None of the RNG Req Pack gambling garbage. There was an XP booster for sale though, so it looks like there will be a little pay to boost in the mix.

Try turning off your system completely and turning it back on, it worked for me when stuck on the pending screen for the Halo Insider app.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Also possible it is referring to specific campaign levels but I would be down for additional campaigns to be added.

I got in for a little this morning. I played two matches and checked out the store and the Spartan customization.

As for gameplay, you were right a few posts back, it plays and fells just like Halo 5, but without the Halo 5 Spartan abilities, which is fine.

The customization is really cool and looks slick in its presentation.

The store reminds me of the Sea of Thieves store, which is a good thing. Pretty bare bones with mainly cosmetics and a Season Pass for sale. None of the RNG Req Pack gambling garbage. There was an XP booster for sale though, so it looks like there will be a little pay to boost in the mix.

Try turning off your system completely and turning it back on, it worked for me when stuck on the pending screen for the Halo Insider app.

I just got home from work. I may try and sneak the Xbox on to see if I can at least start downloading the game. Then I might be able to jump on for an hour later tonight.

 

[YukiOnna]

Either levels or meant for how Infinite is supposed to be a platform.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Remember back to those comments Staten made about our own Spartan also being the main hero... I could definitely see at least some of those campaigns starring our Spartans. Kind of like beefed up Spartan Ops as I said before.

 

[YukiOnna]

Remember back to those comments Staten made about our own Spartan also being the main hero... I could definitely see at least some of those campaigns starring our Spartans. Kind of like beefed up Spartan Ops as I said before.

Would be pretty awesome to have side campaigns like that.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Ok, so I checked my Waypoint profile out of sheer curiosity and wouldn't you know it, there was a code in my inbox sitting there for the last 24 hours, 343 just never bothered to actually email me about it.

Downloading now. If anyone hasn't gotten an email I'd seriously recommend checking Waypoint anyway like I did.

 

[stickkidsam]

Any of you see the leak?

Spoiler: Multiplayer Map

We getting Countdown back babyyyy!! At least it's some kind of tribute that is. The main area with the ship is still visible and there's a lot more outdoors too.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Any of you see the leak?

Spoiler: Multiplayer Map

We getting Countdown back babyyyy!! At least it's some kind of tribute that is. The main area with the ship is still visible and there's a lot more outdoors too.

Yeah I've seen all the leaks. Be careful if you're trying to avoid spoilers because the entire campaign pretty much leaked.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Ugh how is that even possible? Is that from data miners or did someone with access leak stuff? I'm not going to click on anything but will expect spoilers at every turn now. Not really concerned about multiplayer stuff getting spoiled but the campaign.

Also countdown isn't countdown without Jetpacks. So does that mean jetpacks are coming back?

 

[stickkidsam]

Yeah I've seen all the leaks. Be careful if you're trying to avoid spoilers because the entire campaign pretty much leaked.

Thanks for the heads up… I have to ask… do you think it looks good? Is that a fair question to ask without spoilers?

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Ugh how is that even possible? Is that from data miners or did someone with access leak stuff? I'm not going to click on anything but will expect spoilers at every turn now. Not really concerned about multiplayer stuff getting spoiled but the campaign.

Also countdown isn't countdown without Jetpacks. So does that mean jetpacks are coming back?

All the campaign stuff was included in the beta's files for some reason. Dunno why. It's 343 lol.

As for jetpacks, maybe down the road as equipment, but I doubt at launch.

Thanks for the heads up… I have to ask… do you think it looks good? Is that a fair question to ask without spoilers?

It doesn't sound like a complete trashfire like Halo 5 was but to me it seems kinda of... standard? Kind of like a CE redux, which I guess is what they've been saying this game is all along. There's 2 specific plot points where I'm kind of not sure what's going on though, need more context.

One thing is for sure. Halo 4/5 really are both being brushed aside as it seems like almost nothing that happened in them is relevant to this game at all.

But again, this is all coming from brief description data strings, need more context and also we have no idea what those other "campaigns" are gonna be although the apparent cliffhanger the game ends with may lead into them.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

Let's keep the opinions on the campaign spoilered. Personally I'd rather not know lol.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Let's keep the opinions on the campaign spoilered. Personally I'd rather not know lol.

I mean I don't really consider opinions spoilers and I'm not really sure what I think of it myself yet, but ok.

 

[YukiOnna]

Best to judge how the campaign goes when you actually play it. I won't be looking at the leaks, but it sucks they ended up including campaign files on the technical beta. This stuff should really be QC'd before doing this. Staten said some of it leaked, so I guess we're still missing things.

 

[YukiOnna]

 

[Deputy Moonman]

I mean I don't really consider opinions spoilers and I'm not really sure what I think of it myself yet, but ok.

Yeah I get that. I just don't want my expectations too high or too low. I know it sounds strange but if I hear a bunch of people say they like the game or the story or anything regarding the campaign then I'm probably going to be disappointed a bit when I finally play it. If people talk about how bad it is then I have to be depressed thinking the game is horrible for another 4 months before I can play it for myself to really know.

Best to judge how the campaign goes when you actually play it. I won't be looking at the leaks, but it sucks they ended up including campaign files on the technical beta. This stuff should really be QC'd before doing this. Staten said some of it leaked, so I guess we're still missing things.

Pretty much this. On a side note I finally got it to download yesterday and played the armory section for a bit. I was really bad at it. Today I got into some bot matchmaking and actually enjoyed it. I realized my tv wasn't on game mode after struggling through a few games. Big difference afterward lol.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Am I the only one surprised the game seems to be running at 30FPS on Xbox One X? I mean I could kind of understand the OG Xbone, but to me the game isn't even super impressive visually. So I wonder what's up, especially when shit like Gears 5 looks great and can run at a perfect 4k60. Unless it's just for this tech test of course.

Just hope I can find a Series X before the game releases.

 

[elliot5]

Am I the only one surprised the game seems to be running at 30FPS on Xbox One X? I mean I could kind of understand the OG Xbone, but to me the game isn't even super impressive visually. So I wonder what's up, especially when shit like Gears 5 looks great and can run at a perfect 4k60. Unless it's just for this tech test of course.

Just hope I can find a Series X before the game releases.

I think it's lack of polish/optimization or maybe not stable enough on the CPU to push 60 right now. Maybe there will be options or standards by launch/future flights. I'm surprised bc Halo 5 ran at 60 and didn't look bad by any means

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Lol