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[Draugoth]

Diablo IV's in-game shop offers us a variety of cosmetic items. The developers make sure that players buy these items because they like them and not because they feel they need them for the game. The shop therefore does not offer any items that give us a playful advantage (Pay2Win). The accessories and skins to be purchased have purely cosmetic aspects and are used for transmogrification.

Some of the Prices in the Diablo IV cosmetic shop have leaked earlier:


Platinum is the currency for items in the Diablo IV Shop. We get them through real money purchases, as well as rewards with the paid Premium Battle Pass.
500 Platinum - $4.99
1000 Platinum - $9.99
2800 Platinum - $24.99
5700 Platinum - $49.99
11500 Platinum - $99.99

A Necromancer Set (Below) is 2800 Platinum Points, previous screenshots shown this set as 666 Platinum Points (around $6.00):

 

[lh032]

 

[L*][*N*K]

Easiest solution: DON'T BUY ANY OF IT.

I wont.

 

[TommyCronin6969]

Pretends to be shocked

 

[Schmendrick]

If the shop isn`t an "in-your-face" permablinking popup thing I can completely ignore it and don`t really care that it exists.

 

[Luipadre]

Dont buy it. That fucking simple

 

[SJRB]

Wait, so they raised the prices for their cosmetics by more than 400%, am I reading that right?

 

[amigastar]

If the shop isn`t an "in-your-face" permablinking popup thing I can completely ignore it and don`t really care that it exists.

True, but i will admit it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The pricing is pretty agressive.

 

[TommyCronin6969]

The argument of just don't buy it has passed. Prepare for this shop to be more of a focus for the game going forwards vs updating the game. Has Overwatch 2 not thought ye anything. This game is also launching at 80 beans normal edition with an ultimate edition up to 110 and then they want 25 more for a skin.

 

[GHG]

Easiest solution: DON'T BUY ANY OF IT.

I wont.

An even better solution would be this crap not existing in a game that will cost you up to $100, but I guess we are well past that point now.

 

[Cyborg]

Easiest solution: DON'T BUY ANY OF IT.

I wont.

If you buy it you are the problem.

 

[Corian33]

I’ll get the battlepass, it’s $10 and that’s basically lunch money in exchange for a lot of cosmetics and dopamine hits.

I won’t buy any of these packs that cost as much as a full game for one outfit. I won’t get upset that they exist either. I really don’t care what you do with your money.

 

[Portugeezer]

Free money.

Must be nice.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I’ll get the battlepass, it’s $10 and that’s basically lunch money in exchange for a lot of cosmetics and dopamine hits.

I won’t buy any of these packs that cost as much as a full game for one outfit. I won’t get upset that they exist either. I really don’t care what you do with your money.

Exactly how I feel, if someone wants them so be it

 

[DaleinCalgary]

It's all cosmetic and meaningless, you spend the money if you think it's silly.

 

[L*][*N*K]

An even better solution would be this crap not existing in a game that will cost you up to $100, but I guess we are well past that point now.

GaaS games needs to continuously make money, like it or not this is the reality of the genre, how do you propose they do that without a cash shop?

 

[nkarafo]

I don't get it.

Are these available in-game? Like you have a chance to find them? If yes then why not just.... play the game? Why spend money to skip a good portion of the game you want to play?

 

[Party McHardy]

Super shitty and pretty much kills any interest I had in picking this up.

 

[Godot25]

Well. It's cosmetic, so I don't care that much...

 

[Draugoth]

Are these available in-game?

No

Like you have a chance to find them?

No

 

[worldwithpyramids]

“iTs OnLY cOsMEtIcs”

 

[L*][*N*K]

I don't get it.

Are these available in-game? Like you have a chance to find them? If yes then why not just.... play the game? Why spend money to skip a good portion of the game you want to play?

No, these are skins, its like buying a Gucci Bag.

 

[SCB3]

I’ll get the battlepass, it’s $10 and that’s basically lunch money in exchange for a lot of cosmetics and dopamine hits.

I won’t buy any of these packs that cost as much as a full game for one outfit. I won’t get upset that they exist either. I really don’t care what you do with your money.

Yea pretty much what I do, £8 is not a lot for some cool BP stuff on a lot of games like this and tbh thats usually enough, I don't even buy cosmetics in Destiny as I can make cool outfits with stuff I got for free or with the BP

 

[j0hnnix]

 

[Party McHardy]

No, these are skins, its like buying a Gucci Bag.

If I’m paying for a full-priced game I expect the Gucci bag to be included.

 

[MMaRsu]

Remember when they said Diablo IV wouldnt have microtransactions after Immortal?

i never believed them

Fuck Blizzard.

 

[Majima Everywhere System]

This game will be free in 6 months, tops.

 

[GHG]

GaaS games needs to continuously make money, like it or not this is the reality of the genre, how do you propose they do that without a cash shop?

Maybe I'm old, but my view is that Diablo shouldn't be spun up like some GAAS game.

Things like this effect the games balance/loot system.

 

[cireza]

Don't buy it ?

how do you propose they do that without a cash shop?

There is a solution, it is called a subscription. You pay every month, and game-design doesn't have to be purposely shitty to force you into buying quality of life features. This is why PSU was so much better than PSO2. PSO2 inventory and item management is unbearable.

 

[L*][*N*K]

Maybe I'm old, but my view is that Diablo should be spun up like some GAAS game.

Things like this effect the games balance/loot system.

But you knew that Diablo 4 was a GaaS game already, my argument is not about Diablo tbh it is about all GaaS games, I understand if you don't like them but since they exist they need a cash shop and to be honest D4 is doing a fantastic job at making the game not Pay-For-Power, something I wish Diablo Immortal did and as long as they remain cosmetic only we should be happy about it.

 

[SidViscous]

Just wait for the inevitable free Pride month stuff, Blizzard seem to be just fine with giving that stuff away for free

 

[HTK]

They do this because there is obviously an audience out there supporting it. Simple economics.

I avoid it at all costs and I'm glad it doesn't affect the gameplay that's all I can ask for.

 

[L*][*N*K]

There is a solution, it is called a subscription. You pay every month, and game-design doesn't have to be purposely shitty to force you into buying quality of life features. This is why PSU was so much better than PSO2. PSO2 inventory and item management is unbearable.

So you would pay $15 a month for this to randomly drop? You are the minority here I guarantee you the majority won't pay it, keep in mind Diablo 4 will sell well on console and it is also designed to sell on console and console players have to pay for only service as well, so imagine this $8 for Xbox Live Gold and $15 for Diablo 4, yeah that sounds like a great solution.

 

[GHG]

But you knew that Diablo 4 was a GaaS game already, my argument is not about Diablo tbh it is about all GaaS games, I understand if you don't like them but since they exist they need a cash shop and to be honest D4 is doing a fantastic job at making the game not Pay-For-Power, something I wish Diablo Immortal did and as long as they remain cosmetic only we should be happy about it.

Yes we have known this would be the case for a while, but it still doesn't sting any less.

Now if only everyone listened to me regarding horse armour...

 

[cireza]

So you would pay $15 a month for this to randomly drop?

No. Read my post ? Cosmetic shit is optional. Game-design altered to force you into buying "services" isn't. I don't know if Diablo 4 will be impacted by this (I suppose so to some extent, after that's what the business model requires), but people who like a game and want the best experience will definitely pay a subscription fee.

On console Gold/Live/Whatever should not be necessary to play a game that has a subscription. It was already the case back on 360, if I remember correctly.

 

[Saber]

Why ever this comes as surprise is beyond me. Of course Diablo Immortal was just a beta test for this.

I can only guess things will get worse because the more people say "just don't buy it", the more free pass they get to progress further with pay mechanics.

 

[Salz01]

Can the set be farmed for? If so, then it’s not really a problem. If it can’t be farmed for, and it’s only in the store that’s a problem.

 

[L*][*N*K]

No. Read my post ? Cosmetic shit is optional. Game-design altered to force you into buying "services" isn't. I don't know if Diablo 4 will be impact by this, but people who like a game and want the best experience will definitely pay a subscription fee.

Diablo 4 doesn't have quality of life things that you pay for, this is still a $70 game it comes with an optional cosmetic shop, that is it.

 

[MaKTaiL]

Who cares?

 

[cireza]

Diablo 4 doesn't have quality of life things that you pay for, this is still a $70 game it comes with an optional cosmetic shop, that is it.

Then it is not a F2P/GaaS.

 

[Saber]

Can the set be farmed for? If so, then it’s not really a problem. If it can’t be farmed for, and it’s only in the store that’s a problem.

Draugoth already mention those are impossible to get other then buying.

 

[GHG]

Can the set be farmed for? If so, then it’s not really a problem. If it can’t be farmed for, and it’s only in the store that’s a problem.

It's more of a problem if it can be farmed for because they will have put a lot of work into determining what these things should cost and the amount of in-game effort it will take to attain them. It's a science of psychology.

Then it is not a F2P/GaaS.

It will have "seasons" and "battle passes".

It's GAAS.

 

[Laptop1991]

People do buy them though, that's why they continue to sell them, i never have or ever will

 

[Salz01]

Draugoth already mention those are impossible to get other then buying.

Didn’t see that. That sucks then. Because all the coolest looking armor is going to be pay walled. They do that shit in cod.

 

[L*][*N*K]

Then it is not a F2P/GaaS.

It isn't Free to Play, it is a GaaS like Destiny, The Division....etc, I don't know some of you act like you haven't been around gaming since late 2000s.

 

[cireza]

It will have "seasons" and "battle passes".

It's GAAS.

That's a standard game with DLCs then.

People not buying these will not have a lesser experience. I don't understand the complaints here.

 

[GHG]

People not buying these will not have a lesser experience. I don't understand the complaints here.

Well it depends on how much value one attributes to "cosmetics" (which by the way were once all part of the original purchase price for every game).

If there didn't exist people who wanted this stuff and people who would get FOMO over it then they wouldn't sell it, much less for ridiculous prices.

 

[Kacho]

It’s just $28 cosmetics bro!

 

[L*][*N*K]

Well it depends on how much value one attributes to "cosmetics" (which by the way were once all part of the original purchase price for every game).

If there didn't exist people who wanted this stuff and people who would get FOMO over it then they wouldn't sell it, much less for ridiculous prices.

The Battle Pass is 10$ per-season, I don't think that is THAT steep, I still wouldn't get it myself.

 

[diffusionx]

GaaS games needs to continuously make money, like it or not this is the reality of the genre, how do you propose they do that without a cash shop?

maybe these exploitative cash grabs designed by psychologists to land whales shouldn't exist