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Silent_Echo · Jul 25, 2005

Can somebody be kind enough to post the reasons behind the scores? I've searched several threads and can't find anything except the actual scores. I just wanted to know what was said about it and how bad it really is.

I want to believe!

olimario · Jul 25, 2005

It's about a 5/10 game, I believe.
WHy? Because N-Space sucks at making games.

Solid · Jul 25, 2005

buy the damn magazine you cheap bastard.

Silent_Echo · Jul 25, 2005

Solid said:
buy the damn magazine you cheap bastard.

I have a free subscription, just haven't gotten it yet. I take pride in being a cheap bastard.

border · Jul 25, 2005

They said it was a crappy FPS and a crappy adventure game rolled into one. Bad AI, easy stupid enemies, easy repetitive puzzles.

Was there any reason to really get your hopes up on this game, other than the fact that it was Cube-sclusive? The bad news is it sounds like there's enough interesting elements to justify several months of fanboys writing about how "misunderstood" and great the game was (a la PN07, Eternal Darkness, etc).

Mallrat83 · Jul 25, 2005

border said:
They said it was a crappy FPS and a crappy adventure game rolled into one. Bad AI, easy stupid enemies, easy repetitive puzzles.

Was there any reason to really get your hopes up on this game, other than the fact that it was Cube-sclusive? The bad news is it sounds like there's enough interesting elements to justify several months of fanboys writing about how "misunderstood" and great the game was (a la PN07, Eternal Darkness, etc).

I guess Eternal Darkness didn't get good reviews upon release. Jackass.

Silent_Echo · Jul 25, 2005

PN03 and ED were both better than average games. I wanted Geist to be good because I liked the premise and story of the game.

dicklaurent · Jul 25, 2005

pn03 rocks, haters.

Solid · Jul 25, 2005

what did egm score ED?

Pellham · Jul 25, 2005

I think Eternal Darkness received slightly above average scores (in the 7-8 range, occassionally a 9) but it was clearly overhyped, overrated, and has very few fans.

So it can clearly go in the same boat as Geist.

GamerShu · Jul 25, 2005

anyone think this is going to bomb worst than sega's recent virtua fighter kid thing? whatever it was called

border · Jul 25, 2005

4, 6, 5.5

They do a little sidebar about all the things you can possess (dog food bowl, manhole cover, naked girl in shower).....it sold me on the game a lot more than the review did :lol Sounds like there is potential for lots of fun and creative hijinks which is why I think it might inspire a lot of ED-styled apologists.

I guess Eternal Darkness didn't get good reviews upon release.

Errrr, huh?

Minotauro · Jul 25, 2005

border said:
Was there any reason to really get your hopes up on this game, other than the fact that it was Cube-sclusive?

Yeah, honestly. If you want to play FPS games on a console, buy an Xbox.

Solid · Jul 25, 2005

border said:
4, 6, 5.5

wtf. egm suckz. they have clearly not understod the game right.

i'm glad rest of the media crew saw it's greatness.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/913957.asp

temp · Jul 25, 2005

Solid said:
wtf. egm suckz. they have clearly not understod the game right.

i'm glad rest of the media crew saw it's greatness.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/913957.asp

I think those are their Geist scores.

Solid · Jul 25, 2005

temp said:
I think those are their Geist scores.

really? oh okay. my bad then. i see it got a 8.17 out of 10, whatever that means :x

Cerebral Palsy · Jul 25, 2005

border said:
The bad news is it sounds like there's enough interesting elements to justify several months of fanboys writing about how "misunderstood" and great the game was (a la PN07, Eternal Darkness, etc).

Yeah, kind of like how the Killzone2 CG looked pretty enough to justify several months of Sony fanboys writing about how Killzone1 was "misunderstood" and not as bad as everyone said it was.

In other news... Geist? Meh.

Drinky Crow · Jul 25, 2005

And people calling Killzone "misunderstood" isn't both sad and funny, either?

123rl · Jul 25, 2005

border said:
They said it was a crappy FPS and a crappy adventure game rolled into one. Bad AI, easy stupid enemies, easy repetitive puzzles.

Was there any reason to really get your hopes up on this game, other than the fact that it was Cube-sclusive? The bad news is it sounds like there's enough interesting elements to justify several months of fanboys writing about how "misunderstood" and great the game was (a la PN07, Eternal Darkness, etc).

You mean how a game (PN03) tries something new and then gets criticised because it DOESN'T play like every game in a certain genre? I really wish the people who are so blinkered to magazine reviews would get off their lazy asses and actually play games for themselves. Especially when so many magazines and internet reviewers are fucking laughable when you see just how much they fail to understand the concept or reasons behind any kind of originality in a game

dicklaurent · Jul 25, 2005

Solid said:
wtf. egm suckz. they have clearly not understod the game right.

i'm glad rest of the media crew saw it's greatness.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/913957.asp

Uh, I think that was the Geist score. Defend the Dyack!

border · Jul 25, 2005

Sorry yeah hehe. Those were Geist's scores. I didn't read the whole question. As you can see, the EGM scores for ED averaged out to 8.17 (aka "way too high").

Yeah, kind of like how the Killzone2 CG looked pretty enough to justify several months of Sony fanboys writing about how Killzone1 was "misunderstood" and not as bad as everyone said it was.

Well, there's only been 1 thread I've seen about Killzone revisionism.....meanwhile it's 3 years after the fact and you can still get called a jackass for implying that ED wasn't up to snuff :lol I don't expect Geist or Killzone to have the same kind of longevity, if only because the system wars have died down and people won't invest themselves in pimping exclusive games (or lamenting their "misunderstood-ness").

Barry Lightning · Jul 25, 2005

Silent_Echo said:
Can somebody be kind enough to post the reasons behind the scores? I've searched several threads and can't find anything except the actual scores. I just wanted to know what was said about it and how bad it really is.

I want to believe!

Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes or given you clairvoyance enough to find the Rebel's hidden fortress....

FirstInHell · Jul 25, 2005

border said:
The bad news is it sounds like there's enough interesting elements to justify several months of fanboys writing about how "misunderstood" and great the game was (a la PN07, Eternal Darkness, etc).

Sadly, any game no matter how embarassingly bad it is will have a legion of fanboys. Take a look at any forum talking about Advent Rising. They usually are in complete denial about whatever game they are defending. In the case of Advent Rising, the fanboys go as far to say the game does not have any bugs and it is some global media conspiracy that the game did not sell 300K in its first month.

I picked up ED for 2.98 at Toys R Us on Clearance, and I still felt ripped off.

Wario64 · Jul 25, 2005

huauahuahauhauaua

dicklaurent · Jul 25, 2005

GamerShu · Jul 25, 2005

Wario64 said:
huauahuahauhauaua

mark my words, Geist will sell.

Musashi Wins! · Jul 25, 2005

GamerShu said:
mark my words, Geist will sell.

indeed, quality is no barrier.

border · Jul 25, 2005

Cube owners are not exactly big fans of mediocre FPS games.....I dunno why you'd expect it to sell.

olimario · Jul 25, 2005

Geist WILL sell, you're right.
About 100,000 copies total.

Silent_Echo · Jul 25, 2005

I have no faith that this game will sell well at all. In fact, I figured it would sell like ass all along. I'm a sucker for sci-fi and paranormal stuff. Since this has both, and is a FPS, I was, and to a point, still am, interested.

Dr.Guru of Peru · Jul 25, 2005

I liked Eternal Darkness.

MrDaravon · Jul 25, 2005

Musashi Wins! said:
indeed, quality is no barrier.

This is, word for word, the absolute truest thing I've ever seen posted.

Virgin Wii · Jul 25, 2005

Eternal Darkness rated a lot higher than "slightly above average".

I think Eternal Darkness received slightly above average scores (in the 7-8 range, occassionally a 9) but it was clearly overhyped, overrated, and has very few fans.

Where did you get that impression? The game has a crapload of fans for the amount it sold.

satterfield · Jul 25, 2005

Pellham said:
I think Eternal Darkness received slightly above average scores (in the 7-8 range, occassionally a 9) but it was clearly overhyped, overrated, and has very few fans.

So it can clearly go in the same boat as Geist.

Um, no.

dicklaurent · Jul 25, 2005

our game is under attack !!!

Kobun Heat · Jul 25, 2005

satterfield said:
Um, no.

Preach it.

Hey, didn't you write the review of ED for Gamespot? Reading that made me go out and get a Dead Can Dance CD...

Wario64 · Jul 25, 2005

FirstInHell said:
I picked up ED for 2.98 at Toys R Us on Clearance, and I still felt ripped off.

i rented it for FREE and was still ripped off

dicklaurent · Jul 25, 2005

bring the Dead Can Dance love! you can't just own 'a' DCD cd, you must own THEM ALL. heh.

belgurdo · Jul 25, 2005

border said:
Cube owners are not exactly big fans of mediocre FPS games.....I dunno why you'd expect it to sell.

*metroid prime joke approaching-activate repulsor shields!*

Mallrat83 · Jul 25, 2005

Wario64 said:
i rented it for FREE and was still ripped off

You can't rent something for free. It all makes sense now. :lol

satterfield · Jul 25, 2005

Kobun Heat said:
Preach it.

Hey, didn't you write the review of ED for Gamespot? Reading that made me go out and get a Dead Can Dance CD...

I did write that review. Wow, that's really awesome. When I write stuff like that in reviews I always hope that there's someone out there reading it who will get something out of it. It's awesome to hear someone did!

border · Jul 25, 2005

An ED review that makes people check out Dead Can Dance is cool. Unfortunately the review probably also resulted in people checking out ED, thus cancelling out accumulated coolness.

Mallrat83 said:
You can't rent something for free.

You never got a free rental coupon before? Poor soul. Blockbuster.com members get 2 every month.

Wario64 · Jul 25, 2005

Mallrat83 said:
You can't rent something for free. It all makes sense now. :lol

i rented like 10 games for free that summer. gotta love blockbuster.

olimario · Jul 25, 2005

This thread is more stupid now than when it began!

Zeo · Jul 25, 2005

border said:
An ED review that makes people check out Dead Can Dance is cool. Unfortunately the review probably also resulted in people checking out ED, thus cancelling out accumulated coolness.

Dunno why you'd say that since ED would make anyone cool!

Mallrat83 · Jul 25, 2005

border said:
You never got a free rental coupon before? Poor soul. Blockbuster.com members get 2 every month.

Yea, and Blockbuster no longer charges late fees. Look up the definition.

border · Jul 25, 2005

Yea, and Blockbuster no longer charges late fees. Look up the definition.

The definition of what? Is there any reason we're delving into semantics now? :lol If some guy at the store accepts a coupon instead of money, it's a free rental in pretty much anyone's book.

Mallrat83 · Jul 25, 2005

border said:
The definition of what? Is there any reason we're delving into semantics now?

lol, eh not really. Just bored off my ass here at work. :lol

dicklaurent · Jul 25, 2005

olimario said:
This thread is more stupid now than when it began!

No way. Dead Can Dance > Geist, Eternal Darkness and PN03

Kobun Heat · Jul 25, 2005

I ended up getting "Toward the Within." It's okay, but I'm not entirely sold. Is there a better album?

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