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[Chrono]

It's just weird and creepy up until the plastic surgery guy, then it's just sad honestly.

 

[xsarien]

From the reactions in this thread, I am deeply afraid to click on the link. I do not know what furries refers to - can someone educate me in a non-emotionally scarring way?

There is no way to possibly understand it unless you're willing to see things that may or may not be good, old-fashioned nightmare fuel.

 

[Kai Dracon]

I know it's largely a lost cause, especially on this forum, but this kind of reaction was expected to the BBC "report". Some of the people appearing in said program are, to put it simply, some of the worst "spokespersons" you could find no matter their fandom association and the particular quirks or wierdness of said fandom/sub-culture they exhibit. When this BBC affair was being compiled some time ago, people within furry and anthropomorphic fandom expected it to turn out this way and to have this kind of reaction on the typical uninformed viewer - especially on the interweb. Some of those who worked their way into "speaking for the fandom" for the BBC are known for their attitudes and behavior.

Most outsiders, including those who freak out at "insane furries" on this forum, have no clue whatsoever what kind of argument and debate goes on in the community itself over not just media wank like this, but the specific people who either get glommed by the media (and sometimes, honestly misrepresented) or who actually try to get in front of the camera and say "this is what it's all about!" when they actually represent a true minority of the fanbase. And the argument isn't because community members are trying to "hide the truth", but because the worst of the "freak show" crap that always gets featured center stage simply doesn't represent the majority of people involved.

Is the bulk of real anthropomorphic/furry fandom "weird"? Hell yes, if you define weird as different than the lowest common denominator of mainstream culture. What's too bad with all the media attention it gets though (and Inter-webs stupidity), is that a hell of a lot of it is weird that produces interesting things.

*shrugs* As one person in the community say recently, just laughing at the media image: "they can say whatever they like, but by god, we're actually interesting."

 

[GhaleonEB]

There is no way to possibly understand it unless you're willing to see things that may or may not be good, old-fashioned nightmare fuel.

Fair enough. Got enough of that going on, so I'll continue to be happily ignorant.

 

[Andvary]

SCARY and CRAZY stuff.

 

[DECK'ARD]

I thought people were exaggerating about this whole furry thing!

There are no words ...

 

[etiolate]

AW FUCK

As soon as I saw Raley Field and heard "in their hometown Sacramento" I started to feel very woozy. Dear god I hope I don't run into them.

edit: omg the slurp, poor girl =(

 

[God's Hand]

I know it's largely a lost cause, especially on this forum, but this kind of reaction was expected to the BBC "report". Some of the people appearing in said program are, to put it simply, some of the worst "spokespersons" you could find no matter their fandom association and the particular quirks or wierdness of said fandom/sub-culture they exhibit. When this BBC affair was being compiled some time ago, people within furry and anthropomorphic fandom expected it to turn out this way and to have this kind of reaction on the typical uninformed viewer - especially on the interweb. Some of those who worked their way into "speaking for the fandom" for the BBC are known for their attitudes and behavior.

Most outsiders, including those who freak out at "insane furries" on this forum, have no clue whatsoever what kind of argument and debate goes on in the community itself over not just media wank like this, but the specific people who either get glommed by the media (and sometimes, honestly misrepresented) or who actually try to get in front of the camera and say "this is what it's all about!" when they actually represent a true minority of the fanbase. And the argument isn't because community members are trying to "hide the truth", but because the worst of the "freak show" crap that always gets featured center stage simply doesn't represent the majority of people involved.

Is the bulk of real anthropomorphic/furry fandom "weird"? Hell yes, if you define weird as different than the lowest common denominator of mainstream culture. What's too bad with all the media attention it gets though (and Inter-webs stupidity), is that a hell of a lot of it is weird that produces interesting things.

*shrugs* As one person in the community say recently, just laughing at the media image: "they can say whatever they like, but by god, we're actually interesting."

You're joking, right? You're trying to legitimize these mentally disfunctional WEIRDOS who like to dress up as animals? It IS weird. Grown men dressing up as animals being something they are not IS A MENTAL DISORDER. People whacking off to pictures of a mare giving birth to a snake IS WEIRD. And that's THE MAJORITY, not some small section. You're either a furry or just a wannabe. A true furry is what I saw in that video.

 

[xsarien]

You're joking, right? You're trying to legitimize these mentally disfunctional WEIRDOS who like to dress up as animals? It IS weird. Grown men dressing up as animals being something they are not IS A MENTAL DISORDER. People whacking off to pictures of a mare giving birth to a snake IS WEIRD. And that's THE MAJORITY, not some small section. You're either a furry or just a wannabe. A true furry is what I saw in that video.

To be fair, he did admit to it being pretty damned weird.

 

[God's Hand]

I'm just trying to get a discussion going... someone had to say it sooner or later

 

[Tarazet]

I'm just trying to get a discussion going... someone had to say it sooner or later

We get it - that it's not OK to be different. It never has been. And believe me, I'm completely at peace with the fact that no one will ever actively try to induct Furries into mainstream society.

 

[etiolate]

I know it's largely a lost cause, especially on this forum, but this kind of reaction was expected to the BBC "report". Some of the people appearing in said program are, to put it simply, some of the worst "spokespersons" you could find no matter their fandom association and the particular quirks or wierdness of said fandom/sub-culture they exhibit. When this BBC affair was being compiled some time ago, people within furry and anthropomorphic fandom expected it to turn out this way and to have this kind of reaction on the typical uninformed viewer - especially on the interweb. Some of those who worked their way into "speaking for the fandom" for the BBC are known for their attitudes and behavior.

Most outsiders, including those who freak out at "insane furries" on this forum, have no clue whatsoever what kind of argument and debate goes on in the community itself over not just media wank like this, but the specific people who either get glommed by the media (and sometimes, honestly misrepresented) or who actually try to get in front of the camera and say "this is what it's all about!" when they actually represent a true minority of the fanbase. And the argument isn't because community members are trying to "hide the truth", but because the worst of the "freak show" crap that always gets featured center stage simply doesn't represent the majority of people involved.

Is the bulk of real anthropomorphic/furry fandom "weird"? Hell yes, if you define weird as different than the lowest common denominator of mainstream culture. What's too bad with all the media attention it gets though (and Inter-webs stupidity), is that a hell of a lot of it is weird that produces interesting things.

*shrugs* As one person in the community say recently, just laughing at the media image: "they can say whatever they like, but by god, we're actually interesting."

Did yuo honestly think that there was any chance in hell that a story about furries would be normal or non-disturbing? Hell, I got to give credit to that ostrich guy. Inspite of the leotards and all, when he talked he seemed somewhat rational.

 

[xsarien]

Did yuo honestly think that there was any chance in hell that a story about furries would be normal or non-disturbing? Hell, I got to give credit to that ostrich guy. Inspite of the leotards and all, when he talked he seemed somewhat rational.

I would've been a hell of a lot more impressed if Ostrich actually dressed as an ostrich.

 

[Tarazet]

Did yuo honestly think that there was any chance in hell that a story about furries would be normal or non-disturbing? Hell, I got to give credit to that ostrich guy. Inspite of the leotards and all, when he talked he seemed somewhat rational.

I was actually laughing my ass off through the entire thing. I mean, it was all accurate, there was nothing said that was actually wrong, but it's so obvious that it's an Internet thing which should never be displayed in real life...

 

[MrPing1000]

damn this download is slow I want to be freaked DAMN YOU INTERNET!

 

[Kobun Heat]

"So you're the Yiff Beast of Sacramento."
"Of all I survey, yes."
"And now that I've joined your den... would that mean I have to... get yiffy with you?"
"Haha! Of course not. You'd join the group of at least 5 den members who I haven't gotten yiffy with."
"Oh. Out of how many?"
"Thirty-four."

 

[Nintendo Ate My Children]

We get it - that it's not OK to be different. It never has been. And believe me, I'm completely at peace with the fact that no one will ever actively try to induct Furries into mainstream society.

Ahaha. Poor persecuted you. It is OK to be different, it's not okay to be completely off your gord, which pretty much describes anyone who is so cut off from humanity that they have to get their sexual kicks from imaginary animals. Or worse, real animals.

And that little part about reality TV that you edited out - I hate reality TV as much as the next person, but don't even try to take the intellectual high ground here. You're not "different" because you spend your free time translating the works of Dostoevsky into Latin, you're different because you're a maladjusted man-child who hopefully won't ever figure out that with enough duct tape, you can get a hyoo-man to satisfy your urges who doesn't judge you just like the stuffed animals don't judge you.

IT RUBS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN OR IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN.

 

[MrPing1000]

oh noes oh noes oh noes

 

[Escape Goat]

If they aren't hurting themselves or others then let them have their fun. Jesus.

 

[Tarazet]

Ahaha. Poor persecuted you. It is OK to be different, it's not okay to be completely off your gord, which pretty much describes anyone who is so cut off from humanity that they have to get their sexual kicks from imaginary animals. Or worse, real animals.

And that little part about reality TV that you edited out - I hate reality TV as much as the next person, but don't even try to take the intellectual high ground here. You're not "different" because you spend your free time translating the works of Dostoevsky into Latin, you're different because you're a maladjusted man-child who hopefully won't ever figure out that with enough duct tape, you can get a hyoo-man to satisfy your urges who doesn't judge you just like the stuffed animals don't judge you.

IT RUBS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN OR IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN.

You're free to your opinion, but there are people in this very thread who are wishing death on people. And they're not getting called on it, either. Come to think of it...

:lol This is awesome.

I'd like to see that fucking obese sub-human mess run and think fast in an emergency. I sure wouldn't like to see it fucking copulate.

Anyway. For their own good - KILL THEM BOTH!

You're right - I should do what you do, because it has obviously made you such a peaceful person.

 

[Fresh Prince]

If they aren't hurting themselves or others then let them have their fun. Jesus.

Yep couldn't agree more, after all they are consenting adults. Just don't rape animals.

 

[etiolate]

"So you're the Yiff Beast of Sacramento."
"Of all I survey, yes."
"And now that I've joined your den... would that mean I have to... get yiffy with you?"
"Haha! Of course not. You'd join the group of at least 5 den members who I haven't gotten yiffy with."
"Oh. Out of how many?"
"Thirty-four."

=(

I screamed at that point.

 

[ZombieSupaStar]

i saw a 900 pound woman who answered to "wabbit" and I had to close it.

 

[tetsuoxb]

*shrugs* As one person in the community say recently, just laughing at the media image: "they can say whatever they like, but by god, we're actually interesting."

If by interesting you mean the problem presented by people whose own lives are so absolutely wretched they have to live in fantasy land... then by all means furries are interesting.

If you mean people any sane, rational, socially adjusted person would honestly engage in a conversation with out of pure interest, then you are absolutely wrong.

Furries are the afterproduct of a societal trainwreck. All of the "its ok to be different" education. I am not saying it is bad to be different. I am saying that furries are just a stranger form of hot topic customers. People who are so socially inept that the comiserate with other socially inept people of similar persuasion, slap a subculture/community/scene label on it, and pretend that they are "normal, but different".

You are not normal. You are not different. You are a member of an insulated group of introverts trying to be extroverts. You just have absolutely no skill in expressing yourself in a society that may or may not accept you, so you have cut your losses and quit trying.

That geek hierarchy image should be retitled to hierarchy of social ineptitude.

 

[Tarazet]

(from Two Minutes of Hate thread)

Do you call non-furries "mundanes" like in that documentary? What is the appeal of animals? I do not understand.

1. No, and I think it's stupid because there are plenty of furries that are completely mundane and uninteresting.

2. I'm going to trim down what I wrote earlier, because it's both too much and too little:

- I prefer the average animal's way of life to the average human's
- I think humans are funny-looking, and prefer the grace of a magnificent animal
- I am not sexually attracted to people, I have been in bed with humans of both sexes and not felt anything
- I may well be mentally ill, although I perform strongly in academic fields and have a natural musical gift besides

 

[shuri]

Kaijima is a well known anti-fuuuurrcution spokeperson, just do a google search on his nick name. Last time there was a thread about furry on this forum, he posted things like that

 

[tetsuoxb]

(from Two Minutes of Hate thread)
2. In civilized society, human beings live in a more-or-less prefab way. We go to school until we're 18, work a regular job and raise kids until we turn 65, and then motor about at five-below in the fast lane until we die. As social beasts, we will be part of the system, taking money out and putting it back in, where it will profit those who are luckier than us. I don't like that. In fact, I think it sucks. It's sterile, cold and mechanical. Human society is so relentlessly dull, mundane, and depressing that I find it hard to believe that anyone can tolerate it. And men and women drive in their mass-produced GM products along standard highway routes day in and day out to feed their ungrateful children, who may have brought them joy for a couple of months but certainly don't any longer, and their overstressed spouses. And most people eat it up, never questioning their pathetic existences for longer than a moment.

I guess you could say I had my mid-life crisis a little bit early. If I think about it rationally, an animal's life is probably not -that- different. I definitely hate the way I am going to have to live as a human, but since that alone doesn't explain it, maybe it's an emotional thing, after all. The idea of living, breathing and dying under the stars, with total independence, has an extraordinary appeal to me. The idea of flight thrills me, too.. if I try and picture it, I can feel as my body lifts off the ground and propels itself upwards. Fantastic, unattainable thing.

I could write more, but that's all I have to say about that, at least right now..

Again, I rest my case. Give up on society. Insulate into a group of similar social inepts. Post crap about independance and freedom from society..etc. etc. etc.

No one buys your shit sonarrat, nor kajima's shit either. Lots of people like flying (pilots, BASE jumpers, skydivers), lots of people like the outdoors (campers, etc).... however these people do not reject society and pretend to be fucking stuffed animals.

 

[Drinky Crow]

In civilized society, human beings live in a more-or-less prefab way. We go to school until we're 18, work a regular job and raise kids until we turn 65, and then motor about at five-below in the fast lane until we die. As social beasts, we will be part of the system, taking money out and putting it back in, where it will profit those who are luckier than us. I don't like that. In fact, I think it sucks. It's sterile, cold and mechanical. Human society is so relentlessly dull, mundane, and depressing that I find it hard to believe that anyone can tolerate it. And men and women drive in their mass-produced GM products along standard highway routes day in and day out to feed their ungrateful children, who may have brought them joy for a couple of months but certainly don't any longer, and their overstressed spouses. And most people eat it up, never questioning their pathetic existences for longer than a moment.

Sonarrat, if you buy that stereotype wholesale, then I'd say you're the one lacking any nuance. Especially when you use it to justify pet-induced erections.

 

[Tarazet]

Again, I rest my case. Give up on society. Insulate into a group of similar social inepts. Post crap about independance and freedom from society..etc. etc. etc.

No one buys your shit sonarrat, nor kajima's shit either. Lots of people like flying (pilots, BASE jumpers, skydivers), lots of people like the outdoors (campers, etc).... however these people do not reject society and pretend to be fucking stuffed animals.

I was wrong: this belongs in the Two Minute Hate thread.

 

[tetsuoxb]

I was wrong: this belongs in the Two Minute Hate thread.

No it belongs in the Rational Socially Adjusted People Speaking The Truth thread

 

[Tarazet]

I'm not up to defending myself... I was responding to an honest question with an honest exposition of my opinion. What I said doesn't stand for all furries.. hell, it doesn't even cover all the reasons why I'm a furry. Every time I try to provide a thorough and totally adequate explanation, I fail.

I don't care about changing anyone's mind about this, because it's beyond my ability. I don't have the time to dedicate to establishing that kind of credibility when the subject is already a disaster area and is better off left alone. I will attempt to answer questions that are thrown my way, because some people are genuinely interested in knowing more and not merely in attacking me for being unusual (and I will admit, possibly ill).

 

[Rlan]

Most furries are some weeeeird people. but IMO a lot of people tend to mix up these sorts of people [Crazy, mixed up fellows], with people who simply use animal based characters as representitives for themselves online [like VGCats, most of the Sonic community] which, for the most part, is no more than Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, and practically most 90's cartoons.

 

[Prince of Space]

Oh god, the pictures. THE PICTURES!

 

[Red Scarlet]

:lol

No way I'm watching that. The episode of CSI was scary enough.

 

[xsarien]

(from Two Minutes of Hate thread)
2. In civilized society, human beings live in a more-or-less prefab way. We go to school until we're 18, work a regular job and raise kids until we turn 65, and then motor about at five-below in the fast lane until we die. As social beasts, we will be part of the system, taking money out and putting it back in, where it will profit those who are luckier than us. I don't like that. In fact, I think it sucks. It's sterile, cold and mechanical. Human society is so relentlessly dull, mundane, and depressing that I find it hard to believe that anyone can tolerate it.

If you're going to justify what you do in your own time, at least be honest about it. You like it; it quite possibly gets you off. Hey, whatever. If that floats your boat, enjoy it. But rationalizing it by saying that "human society is dull" isn't just dancing around the facts of the matter, it's completely avoiding them. All of the things you listed, from the school to the regular job to the 2.3 kids are choices, they're not prescribed by any written law or mandate. If you think your life is boring, do something about it. Explore the world; maybe go back to school and study something that you find interesting, not something that will necessarily get you a high-paying job. Read a book. Write a book.

But don't be disingenuous. At its core, furry is escapism, what you're proposing is that it's an outright replacement, and that's when it becomes unhealthy.

 

[White Man]

In civilized society, human beings live in a more-or-less prefab way. We go to school until we're 18, work a regular job and raise kids until we turn 65, and then motor about at five-below in the fast lane until we die. As social beasts, we will be part of the system, taking money out and putting it back in, where it will profit those who are luckier than us. I don't like that. In fact, I think it sucks. It's sterile, cold and mechanical. Human society is so relentlessly dull, mundane, and depressing that I find it hard to believe that anyone can tolerate it. And men and women drive in their mass-produced GM products along standard highway routes day in and day out to feed their ungrateful children, who may have brought them joy for a couple of months but certainly don't any longer, and their overstressed spouses. And most people eat it up, never questioning their pathetic existences for longer than a moment.

I feel the same way, but I'm not a furry and I don't see how this line of thought justifies your personal furrydom.

Actually, most paragraphs I write about how much the world sucks generally don't include 2 idioms about automobiles. Perhaps that line of thought is where the mysterious furry seed puts out its roots.

 

[Rorschach]

 

[M3wThr33]

Wow. I put this up a couple months ago on a private tracker.
I got it long ago off of SuprNova in the early days.

Good to see it getting around again. It's nice to feel like I made a difference in demeaning the furries.

Edit:
Also, I mentioned it elsewhere, I figure you'd like to know, since this aired, Wabbit has died due to her morbid obesity. I'm not joking.

Edit2:
Don't bother trying to change my mind, either. I'm a goon.

 

[belgurdo]

I'm a goon.

So am I but that doesn't mean I should obsess about how I hate/like one fringe group over another. Plus SA largely got over all this furry stuff long ago.

 

[M3wThr33]

After being hit on by a 30-year-old MARRIED MAN who called himself OMNISEXUAL, I had a fairly negative opinion of furries long before joining.

 

[Sapiens]

(from Two Minutes of Hate thread)



1. No, and I think it's stupid because there are plenty of furries that are completely mundane and uninteresting.

2. I'm going to trim down what I wrote earlier, because it's both too much and too little:

- I prefer the average animal's way of life to the average human's
- I think humans are funny-looking, and prefer the grace of a magnificent animal
- I am not sexually attracted to people, I have been in bed with humans of both sexes and not felt anything
- I may well be mentally ill, although I perform strongly in academic fields and have a natural musical gift besides

If you could take a pill to become mundane, would you?

 

[tetsuoxb]

If you could take a pill to become mundane, would you?

Of course not. He gets off on being weird.

 

[Jacobi]

DAmn, I just can't watch the full video, it isn't funny, it's just superweird

 

[Son of Godzilla]

I can't get this goddamn look of horror off my face. This is gonna do more harm than it could possibly entertain.

 

[Sapiens]

Of course not. He gets off on being weird.

A good chunk of the population has it's perversions. I'm glad mine are pretty mild and mundane (women in lingerie, and other ritually hyper-femenine clothing). Like a lot of other males, it's something that we are just attracted to. We can't help it right?

I get the feeling it's the same way for furries. They just get off on it. They can't help it. I don't think it's them getting off on being weird.

If he could get his jollies off on normal chicks, I'm sure he would chose to.

Maybe not.

It just seems like something that would make life miserable to me.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

She put on a used suit? There isn't enough lysol in the world to sanitize that.

 

[john tv]

They can't help it.

This is BS.

 

[mrklaw]

they may not like humans, and prefer the 'more natural' animal way of being, but I bet they'd be pissed off if someone cut off their internet connection because their ISP wasn't doing their job.

Easy to be 'different' when you rely on everyone else being 'normal'.

And different just means a different way of conforming. Its like you grow up, see mainstream society, reject it (fair enough), then visit an open day for 'alternative' lifestyles.

You still pick one, still follow the rules, you're still one of the sheep (pardon the pun).

 

[Tarazet]

Of course not. He gets off on being weird.

Don't put words in my mouth. I would give anything to be able to talk with my own friends and family about my love interests...

 

[Sapiens]

This is BS.

He isn't parading it in public (sonarrat), so what's the BS? He keeps it private because he associates shame with it. He realizes it's strange, so he keeps it on the down low. Sounds like something he can't quite control to me. Maybe some medication would help.