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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Wouldn't spend my money on Acer hardware even if my life depended on it.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Holding out for the Nitro Blaze Xtreme XL Turbo
Cyberpunkd
Member
360 blaze it
hououinkyouma00
Member
The gamer aesthetic is so fucking gross lol.
Also Acer lol
Also Acer lol
HogIsland
Member
It's great to see all these OEMs jumping into the scene so quickly. I'd never buy this one, but hopefully HP/Omen, Alienware, Samsung, and even Sony come through with their own PC handhelds.
Another big wildcard is Nvidia. AMD overwhelmingly dominates the space right now. Intel at least has a competitor. Nvidia is shut out for the moment. Obviously they're going to have the Switch 2, but it won't show off the high end performance that people expect from team green.
Another big wildcard is Nvidia. AMD overwhelmingly dominates the space right now. Intel at least has a competitor. Nvidia is shut out for the moment. Obviously they're going to have the Switch 2, but it won't show off the high end performance that people expect from team green.
March Climber
Member
My problem is how these companies are just making “Steam Deck but _____” in terms of form factor. This one feels like someone took the Lenovo legion, modded it with handles, and put a gamer skin on it.
To anyone wondering “well what else can they do”, look at the variety of handhelds from companies like Ayaneo, Abernic, Miyoo, and Odin to see better creativity and form factor.
Topher
Gold Member
Acer is just checking boxes that have already been checked by other handheld manufacturers. Why simply make copies of existing stuff that looks better? I mean....I'm looking at this thinking "great another 7" LCD". That isn't going to stand out in what is becoming a crowded market.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Why? It's all specs, it's supposed to play games, not look innovative. Or are you advocating for stupid gimmicks like Lenovo Legion Go?
hououinkyouma00
Member
I agree with that as well. I don't know why companies haven't tried harder to make an actual "handheld" outside of Ayaneo and some of the retro handhelds.
Not only are the vast majority of these extremely ugly, but the form factor is just too big IMO. Ayaneo actually makes very nice looking handhelds but the problem is the price combined with the fact they release new hardware like every single day lol.
March Climber
Member
Because when more and more portables are made, the question then becomes ‘why should I buy your product?’ when it has a near identical design from a brand that not many care to stand behind.
Thus it could use something more to stand out, such as a better form factor.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
you've got to be kidding with that name
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
It looks so fucking cheap.
It looks like the Mad Catz version of a PC gaming handheld.
It looks like the Mad Catz version of a PC gaming handheld.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
No trackpad, into the trash it goes
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
She was my favorite nitro girl
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Just buy an Ally X. It's the best one.
Topher
Gold Member
I'd be interested in a Legion Go with that big screen if they made one without the removable controls.
StereoVsn
Member
The rumor is that it’s coming. Maybe with the new AMD chipset.
MSI Claw 8 is coming with Intel Lunar Lake chipset early next year as well and that is supposed to have a GPU around 15-20% faster vs the new AMD one.
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Topher
Gold Member
Nice to know. I'd be fine with Legion Go staying with Z1 Extreme if it helps keep the cost down. Or at least include that option with the newer, less complicated form factor.
kevboard
Member
ok, so if my math is mathing correctly here (12*64*2*2.7) we might have a portable on our hands (unintended pun, but I'll take it) that will be more powerful than the Xbox Series S.
if it can run the full 2.7 GHz and if I am not completely messing up my math (if I do blame Red Gaming Tech where I stole that equation from)
this GPU should reach 4.1 TFLOPS of FP32 and that is without dual issue FP32.
and on the CPU side it should wipe the floor with all current consoles as they use crappy laptop ZEN2 cores, while this is ZEN4
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Magic Carpet
Member
Starfield at 60FPS!
kevboard
Member
with that CPU, probably easily yeah.
Roxkis_ii
Member
Those stats don't look like this has very good battery life. Actually the fact the bottom promotional picture doesn't mention battery life gives it away.
Maybe I'm not intune with current handheld trends, but is battery life not concidered on a portable device anymore?
Maybe I'm not intune with current handheld trends, but is battery life not concidered on a portable device anymore?
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LordCBH
Member
100%. Every single acer product I’ve used has felt like the cheapest piece of shit.
DoubleClutch
Member
My biggest problem with these handhelds is the screen size. Even using Moonlight to remote play to an iPad I find small to read and enjoy.
A 15” laptop is the minimum I would go. Hard to imagine I used to play on a Gameboy as a kid, maybe it’s just my age, maybe I’ve been spoiled by massive OLED screens, but I just can’t game on a tiny display anymore.
I also find today’s UI’s are bad in general, and compressing all that even further just makes for an awful experience.
A 15” laptop is the minimum I would go. Hard to imagine I used to play on a Gameboy as a kid, maybe it’s just my age, maybe I’ve been spoiled by massive OLED screens, but I just can’t game on a tiny display anymore.
I also find today’s UI’s are bad in general, and compressing all that even further just makes for an awful experience.
kevboard
Member
most people use these handhelds either at home to play stuff in bed or on the side while the TV is occupied. or they use it on the plane.
in both cases there usually is an outlet near and so the battery life is often not important to people.
DoubleClutch
Member
Might as well just get a gaming laptop if it’ll be plugged in all the time.
kevboard
Member
laptops are less easy to play on while in bed or just chilling on the couch.
they are also harder to transport and less easy to use on the go should you want to.
additionally these handhelds usually offer different power modes. this allows you to massively limit power draw from the battery while playing less demanding games.
I recently played through Axiom Verge on my Steam Deck, and was able to severely down clock the GPU without any performance impact. which basically doubled my battery life compared to playing demanding 3D games
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GHG
Gold Member
Yes it is, just not with all these shitty derivative windows OS handhelds.
Did a 5 and a half hour flight with the deck OLED the other day and it lasted the whole flight playing a mixture of Balatro and Xcom 2.
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DoubleClutch
Member
Yeah, should’ve gone with 32 GB for extra cost and no tangible difference other than a better spec sheet.
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DoubleClutch
Member
Don’t you keep both in a bag? I guess each use case is different.
StereoVsn
Member
I really want OLED VRR, 24GB+ RAM and preferably faster GPU plus a bigger battery. Trackpads would be nice but not a deal breaker.
Otherwise it doesn’t make sense to buy a new device since I already have OG Ally and Steam Deck.
kevboard
Member
sure, but try pulling out a gaming laptop in the backseat of a car and play something on it. you'll need a controller, and it's gonna be really cramped back there.
for light gaming even a power hungry handheld can be dialed back to get decent battery life. who knows how much battery life you can get out of this when playing something like Axiom Verge or maybe older 3D games like XIII (which I also recently replayed on my Deck with severely reduced gpu clocks at 90fps full res, max settings)
so with something like this it's more comfortable to play games on the go, on the sofa, and in bed. and while you're out away from a power source you play less demanding games while increasing your battery life. when you're at home or near an outlet you crank it to max clocks and suddenly have an Xbox Series S in your hands
StereoVsn
Member
There is a big benefit for newer games. You really want to assign 8GB to GPU which only leaves 8GB to the rest of the system. That’s why 24GB or 32GB device is preferable.
DoubleClutch
Member
Yeah, they both have their positives in the end. I contemplated getting one but decided I’d rather play most games on other hardware. I see them really picking up even more in the future.
DoubleClutch
Member
You’re not going to be gaming at more than 1080p so it won’t make any difference. Most of the time you’ll be at 720p or less.
StereoVsn
Member
It does make a difference even at 1080p (not as much on 720-800p though). And especially with faster SoCs coming up with both AMD and Intel, that will matter even more.
DoubleClutch
Member
In what games would you see a difference at 1080p? Can you show me?
StereoVsn
Member
Take a look at some of the more detailed Ally X reviews on YouTube. It’s not going to make a massive difference, but every bit helps.
And we should see even better results with more RAM for the new AMD chipset and upcoming Intel one.
If you already have a device, it’s not worth it currently to trade up, but if buying a nee one, personally I would go for more memory.
kevboard
Member
I love them. ever since I got my Steam Deck OLED I actually started playing some of the hundreds of free Epic Store games that have been collecting dust for years
which is kinda ironic... took the STEAM Deck for me to play my Epic Store games... but thanks to Heoric launcher it's actually a way nicer experience too lol.
Topher
Gold Member
Black Myth Wukong's benchmark tool gave me low memory warnings when I ran it on my hand held. With more UE5 games on the horizon, 16GB ain't gonna cut it.
DoubleClutch
Member
Extra RAM won’t save that experience.
Topher
Gold Member
Would be interesting to see Rog Ally vs Rog Ally X side by side for comparison.
Minsc
Gold Member
It's been shown on the Ally X to help with minimums quite a bit.
Plus it helps tremendously with Windows itself. Windows is not happy with 16GB of RAM.
It's just a terrible purchase IMO, especially with the Ally X having 24GB and being on the market.
Minsc
Gold Member
Not sure why we're complaining about that game when it runs on average 60-80fps, and has battery life on the X of over 3 hours if you lock it to 60fps. From watching a few people who have recorded gameplay on youtube and have said to have played over 1/3 of the game on the X, they had no complaints about performance.
Does it look exactly the same as the PS5 or desktop? I'd hope not, for the Ally X is going to be using 30W and the PS5 over 200W. But that's the advantage of handhelds, regular 1080p stuff looks great on them, where the console needs all the extra power to get 4k or upscaled 4k.