So if it's moved back a day then it shifts from
26 and 48
to
3000 and 48
In other words the statistics can support either narrative people want them to.
Anyone watching/listening to the CNN interview of one of his HS friends?
"Funny", "witty", "well-liked/popular" were just some of the terms used to describe him. None of that "he was on meds/always a loner" kind of stuff.
No reason for the recruiers not be armed.
"Vigilant"The biggest terrorist act in US history was by Islamic extremists though. The smaller number is only because the US has become more vigilant and plots have been foiled.
From the same site:
http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/terror-plots.html
Almost all of them are by Islamic extremists.
First off, horrible use of a double negative.
Second, military personal and civilians are not permited to carry weapons on any military site, Military Police are the only ones allowed to cary arms.
The United States isn't a combat zone, it shouldn't be treated as such.
The first incident happened at a recruitment office though, and Tennessee allows concealed carry so I'm not sure why they weren't armed. Maybe they were armed and didn't have time to shoot back before he drove off.
I imagine state laws are irrelevant to federal restrictions to their employees.The first incident happened at a recruitment office though, and Tennessee allows concealed carry so I'm not sure why they weren't armed. Maybe they were armed and didn't have time to shoot back before he drove off.
Chicago just issued police security to all recruiting stations
? I don't know what else to say ha. That's what happened.Wat.
Nothing you said made any sense.First off, horrible use of a double negative.
Second, military personal and civilians are not permited to carry weapons on any military site, Military Police are the only ones allowed to cary arms.
The United States isn't a combat zone, it shouldn't be treated as such.
The first incident happened at a recruitment office though, and Tennessee allows concealed carry so I'm not sure why they weren't armed. Maybe they were armed and didn't have time to shoot back before he drove off.
You are not allowed to concealed carry in uniform. You are not allowed to carry personal weapons in uniform.Nothing you said made any sense.
This is not a military site.
Doubtful since up until now there really hadn't been a need to be armed, but situations such as this will probably spur a change in SOPs going forward. I would not be surprised if they started to arm recruiters to some degree after this, it will at least be debated.
I imagine state laws are irrelevant to federal restrictions to their employees.
You're not allowed to have arms inside of that building, it even says so on the door when you walk in.
You are not allowed to concealed carry in uniform. You are not allowed to carry personal weapons in uniform.
I was hoping that he was a white Christian. Too bad. Now it's terrorism.*sigh.
I was praying it wasn't a muslim guy.
I don't know what point you are trying to make. They should have access their service weapon. They should be able to defend themselves off post.You are not allowed to concealed carry in uniform. You are not allowed to carry personal weapons in uniform.
12 years in the military and I carried my weapon 24/7 in all 4 deployments. In garrison, the only time I had access to both ammo and weapon was in the range.
I don't know what point you are trying to make. They should have their service weapon. They should be able to defend themselves off post.
Yeah, there should at least be a debate. Edit: I guess that's not possible unless you have civilian recruiters? I guess there should be security guards if the threat is serious enough.
Of course, any employer (McDonalds, etc.) can restrict their employees.
That restriction/warning is standard to a lot of businesses, it doesn't restrict employees. There might be another restriction though. Edit: There is.
And that's that, thanks!
I say today a great reason.They are recruiting people.
They aren't in a battlefield, there is ZERO reason to have a live weapon with them. You've already been told military policy, what's so hard to understand?
I was hoping that he was a white Christian. Too bad. Now it's terrorism.
Did some Googling and seem like you can cc while in uniform off base.You can actually conceal carry in uniform, at least in the USAF you could if you have your Commanders consent and the proper military permits to do so. H.R 218 has granted even greater ability to do so for Military LE components.
The Military can pretty much supersede any state regulation on fire arms it wants if it sees a operational need. I spent 8 years of my USAF career driving up and now the Highways of ND armed with a MK-19 Grenade Launcher and a M4, in support of operations there. If they find a need for recruiters to be armed, they will be.
Did some Googling and seem like you can cc while in uniform off base.
But even if it's not allow. It should be after today.
He had mental illness...wait, he's not white, silly me.
The saddest part about this is going to be the backlash and the hate stirring from the bigots.
Welp, might as well get this party started. I'll just post a few jumping points for the usual players in these types of threads.
1) Religion/Islam is a disease
2) This is why we need more guns
and for the other side
1) Not all muslims
2) This is why we need less guns
feel free to add
The saddest part is four innocent people died because of some religious lunatic.
The saddest part is four innocent people died because of some religious lunatic.
Do we know that he's religious? The OP doesn't provide much information on the shooter but I did see CNN saying he was arrested for a DUI.The saddest part is four innocent people died because of some religious lunatic.
Do we know that he's religious? The OP doesn't provide much information on the shooter but I did see CNN saying he was arrested for a DUI.
How disappointing. I guess the conversation will no longer be about how easy it is to shoot people up in America.His blog seems to indicate he was pretty religious.
His blog seems to indicate he was pretty religious.
What if I believe Islam is often a big, if not the biggest contributing factor in acts like this AND I think societies should have very strict gun legislation?The saddest part about this is going to be the backlash and the hate stirring from the bigots. (edit) pardon my insensitive remark, the real tragedy is the unnecessary deaths of innocents (edit)
Welp, might as well get this party started. I'll just post a few jumping points for the usual players in these types of threads.
1) Religion/Islam is a disease
2) This is why we need more guns
and for the other side
1) Not all muslims
2) This is why we need less guns
feel free to add
That article is so alarmist. Dunya is a buzzword used by terrorists now? So idiotic. There's even a verse of the Qur'an that is mentioned there but the author of that article, not doing his job, fails to even point that out while quoting that excerpt and attributing it to the shooter.
Dunya is the Arabic word for world. It is used by many Muslims and it is found in many languages to refer to the world. To call the word "Dunya" as a signal for radicalization is like calling the word "World" as a signal for radicalization.
What? Dis you even read the article?
Their narrative, based on his social media presence, is that he was tired of the mortal world.
This man was clearly suicidal and depressed, and found confort in extremist view of his religion.
Brothers and sisters dont be fooled by your desires, this life is short and bitter and the opportunity to submit to allah may pass you by. Take his word as your light and code and do not let other prisoners, whether they are so called Scholars or even your family members, divert you from the truth. If you make the intention to follow allahs way 100 % and put your desires to the side, allah will guide you to what is right.
What if I believe Islam is often a big, if not the biggest contributing factor in acts like this AND I think societies should have very strict gun legislation?
Except that's exactly what religious people do when they want to oppress or attack someone and justify it to themselves...Thats fine you can mix and match. Believe what you want.
Except that's exactly what religious people do when they want to oppress or attack someone and justify it to themselves...
I'm curious, what makes Hinduism a violent and misogynistic religion?
If this is a Naval Base any gun control arguments are a bit null, though.
It's a military base. They're guns everywhere.
First off, horrible use of a double negative.
Second, military personal and civilians are not permited to carry weapons on any military site, Military Police are the only ones allowed to cary arms.
The United States isn't a combat zone, it shouldn't be treated as such.